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I76- Hits the street tomorrow. My predictions....

John Shial

I76- Hits the street tomorrow. My predictions....

by John Shial » Thu, 27 Mar 1997 04:00:00

You bought Activisions's MechWarrior2 on day one for Netmech, didn't
you?

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Stolen Chi

I76- Hits the street tomorrow. My predictions....

by Stolen Chi » Thu, 27 Mar 1997 04:00:00


>Actually, there will be a large scale buying of this game, anyway.
>Sight unseen. No demo. The funky,funky ad campaign will see to that.

>Unfortunately, the buying will be accompanied by much whining and
>posting of graphics speed complaints to this group.

>What a shame.

>You heard it here first ... :)

>Comments?

Agree with everything you say.  Just want to add a note to software
publishers:  "No Demo.  No Buy.   No Way.  No How."
Jo

I76- Hits the street tomorrow. My predictions....

by Jo » Thu, 27 Mar 1997 04:00:00


>Agree with everything you say.  Just want to add a note to software
>publishers:  "No Demo.  No Buy.   No Way.  No How."

To the reggae music of "No woman, no cry":

 I remember when, we used to run
  our games on VGA computers

 486 was plenty of CPU power,
  Now you need a Pentium just to boot

No demo, no buy ... no demo no buy!
 Hey little sister, turn off your 3D chip ... no demo no buy!

 I remember when, my Commodore 64
  would play Summer Games and Jumpman

 Now it takes 200Mhz just to scroll
  and run my graphics smoothly

No demo, no buy ... no demo no buy!
 Hey little sister, turn off your 3D chip ... no demo no buy!

 I remember when, the 3DO came out
  it semed to run quite quickly

 Now I have drink, my only remedy
  for fear of scrolling chunkily

No demo, no buy ... no demo no buy!
 Hey little sister, turn off your 3D chip ... no demo no buy!
==========================================

Hope you like it, it's my new #1 hit single! ;-)

Joe

Stolen Chi

I76- Hits the street tomorrow. My predictions....

by Stolen Chi » Thu, 27 Mar 1997 04:00:00



>>Agree with everything you say.  Just want to add a note to software
>>publishers:  "No Demo.  No Buy.   No Way.  No How."

>To the reggae music of "No woman, no cry":

>Hope you like it, it's my new #1 hit single! ;-)

>Joe

Joe, you need some free time on your hands.  :-)
Jak Cr

I76- Hits the street tomorrow. My predictions....

by Jak Cr » Thu, 27 Mar 1997 04:00:00


: rrevved wrote...

: > Unfortunately, the buying will be accompanied by much whining and
: > posting of graphics speed complaints to this group.
: >
: > What a shame.
: >
: > You heard it here first ... :)
: >
: > Comments?

: You bought Activisions's MechWarrior2 on day one for Netmech, didn't
: you?

        Dunno about him, but I certainly didn't. A game should be
purchased on the merits of it's one player quality, and the net play
should be secondary. I think that I76 will turn out like Mercs, details
will have to be turned down to run the damn thing decently on a P166.

Dean Olmstea

I76- Hits the street tomorrow. My predictions....

by Dean Olmstea » Thu, 27 Mar 1997 04:00:00




> : rrevved wrote...

> : > Unfortunately, the buying will be accompanied by much whining and
> : > posting of graphics speed complaints to this group.
> : >
> : > What a shame.
> : >
> : > You heard it here first ... :)
> : >
> : > Comments?

> : You bought Activisions's MechWarrior2 on day one for Netmech, didn't
> : you?

>    Dunno about him, but I certainly didn't. A game should be
> purchased on the merits of it's one player quality, and the net play
> should be secondary. I think that I76 will turn out like Mercs, details
> will have to be turned down to run the damn thing decently on a P166.

Exactly.  And that's why so many people are in here wondering when the damn
3d patch will be available, 'cause we want it all:  high frame rates with
maximum detail.  I'm still grabbing this game, but since I don't even see
the friggin' demo on the net yet, I'm really unsure about the 3d patch.  I
can't wait to buy I76, but I really wonder if it will be another shelved
title as I wait for a patch.  I can hear it now, "the patch is 90% ready,
but there's still a few bugs left, so give us 2 months."  Would someone
from Activision please update us on the status of both the demo and the 3d
patch?  TIA.

Dean Olmstead

Christopher A. T

I76- Hits the street tomorrow. My predictions....

by Christopher A. T » Thu, 27 Mar 1997 04:00:00


Perhaps.  However, I76 does run somewhat better than Mercs on my PPro
200 in 640x480 with all details on.  This is likely because Mercs
doesn't like DirectX 3 overly much, but then, I76 is more detailed.  

<soapbox>
However, I wonder why people are ***ing about the speed of Mercs
and, probably, I76, while they don't *** overly much about Quake.  A
PPro200 is possibly the only current processor that can currently
handle normal Quake in DOS in 640x480.  Why?  Textures, that's
why...good texturemaps in 640x480 take a ton of processor time to
software render.  Anyway, it seems that people are expecting
Activision to accomplish a miracle that John Carmack and Michael
Abrash couldn't, along with any company who's ever done a 640x480
flight simulator (Novalogic aside, but coding a FS in ASM must be
hell, and F-22 wasn't much besides graphics, anyway)?  Yes, space
simulations like WC4 and Tie Fighter will run well in 640x480 with
full detail on a P133, but neither of these space sims has a complex
physics engine or non-spacecraft in the playing field (that is, space
sims don't have terrain and such).  Anyway...

</soapbox>

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Christopher A. T

I76- Hits the street tomorrow. My predictions....

by Christopher A. T » Thu, 27 Mar 1997 04:00:00




>>Actually, there will be a large scale buying of this game, anyway.
>>Sight unseen. No demo. The funky,funky ad campaign will see to that.

>>Unfortunately, the buying will be accompanied by much whining and
>>posting of graphics speed complaints to this group.

>>What a shame.

>>You heard it here first ... :)

>>Comments?

>Agree with everything you say.  Just want to add a note to software
>publishers:  "No Demo.  No Buy.   No Way.  No How."

Of course, then publishers will delay the game to put a demo out, a la
Daggerfall, and people will *** and whine about game delays.

:P

C. tew

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Ed P

I76- Hits the street tomorrow. My predictions....

by Ed P » Thu, 27 Mar 1997 04:00:00





> >> Buyer Beware.....

> >> Activision has not formally committed to any schedule for 3D hardware
> >> support.

> >I have been a beta tester of the game and I can
> >tell you that, although the graphics are not as good as they'll be when
> >the 3D support is in there, the graphics are terrific supporting up to
> >1024x768 resolutions with all kinds of options to turn graphics on and
> >off.

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I think you are DEAD ON here.

I love Mechwarrior 2 et.al.  
Activision makes great games, but they always seem to fall shy of
complete (not to mention bug free). With Mechwarrior2 we got a great
game, many bugs, so-so graphics, false advertising, and lots of lame
excuses from the publisher. I hope they have learned from MW2 and
release a product that is ready and complete as advertised.  I for one
am looking forward th I76, but my MW2 experience dictates that I wait
(many months) for the first bug fix before I buy it.

I respectfully submit that we _all_ wait for the first bug fix before
buying I76.

And I am BEGGING all of you out there that don't wait: whine directly to
Acitivision and *NOT INTO THIS NEWSGROUP*.  please.     ;^\

Activision are you listening?

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Panac

I76- Hits the street tomorrow. My predictions....

by Panac » Fri, 28 Mar 1997 04:00:00


(rrevved) uttered these pearls of wisdom:

Well, I for one will let it sit on the shelf at the software store
UNTIL Activision releases a patch to let me use it on my Orchid R3D.

And, then, after the patch is issued (and, hopefull plenty of reviews
from the scouts.. uh, my fellow gamers on Usenet) I'll pick it up.

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Jon Salo

I76- Hits the street tomorrow. My predictions....

by Jon Salo » Fri, 28 Mar 1997 04:00:00


>Well, I for one will let it sit on the shelf at the software store
>UNTIL Activision releases a patch to let me use it on my Orchid R3D.

>And, then, after the patch is issued (and, hopefull plenty of reviews
>from the scouts.. uh, my fellow gamers on Usenet) I'll pick it up.

Yup. Same here. Speaking of the 3D patch, does anyone know if the
forthcoming demo will also be D3D? Sure would sweeten the pot :)

Jon S

John Shial

I76- Hits the street tomorrow. My predictions....

by John Shial » Fri, 28 Mar 1997 04:00:00

Jak Crow wrote...

> : > Unfortunately, the buying will be accompanied by much whining and
> : > posting of graphics speed complaints to this group.
> : >
> : > What a shame.
> : >
> : > You heard it here first ... :)
> : >
> : > Comments?

> : You bought Activisions's MechWarrior2 on day one for Netmech, didn't :
> you?

> Dunno about him, but I certainly didn't. A game should be purchased on
> the merits of it's one player quality, and the net play should be
> secondary. I think that I76 will turn out like Mercs, details will have
> to be turned down to run the damn thing decently on a P166.

Well, no, a game should be bought on its merits for *doing what you
want it to do*.

If you want a game for multiplayer, or want 3D support, which is
promised for "some time in the future" then there's no point buying
it the game first and then complaining that the support hasn't
materialised.

I'd agree with you though, unless there has been some remarkable
changes (ie complete rewrite) of the Mechwarrior engine, it's gonna be
slow at a resonable resolution with all the features turned on, even
on a fast machine.

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 John -

There'll be no can of beer here, not if I can help it.

Soren A. Ba

I76- Hits the street tomorrow. My predictions....

by Soren A. Ba » Fri, 28 Mar 1997 04:00:00

 Does anybody know what the minimum and suggested system requirements are
/will be... Will it run at all decently (With all details off, and lowest
res possible) on a Pentium 90? I really want to play it but I won't be
buying a new computer until next fall :(

                                                Soren Barr

Drew Vog

I76- Hits the street tomorrow. My predictions....

by Drew Vog » Fri, 28 Mar 1997 04:00:00


Well, I just bought it. The minimum system is a P90 with 16 megs, and a 4x
speed CD. Windows 95 only, of course...

Dave Pott

I76- Hits the street tomorrow. My predictions....

by Dave Pott » Fri, 28 Mar 1997 04:00:00


> We're doing the best we can and working as fast as we can.  The I'76
> team is very dedicated to meeting eveyone's expectations... including
> our own.  So right now, the D3D patch and the demo are the main focus
> for us.  There have been many posts already and I know that many more
> will follow.  I'll try my best to keep on top of all of them...

> Scott Krager
> Producer, Interstate '76
> Activision

> By the way, our multi-player options are awesome!!!

No prob.  As soon as they become available I'll consider buying it.

Dave
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