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Fix for Blue Screen's and other fatal errors

{USER_FIRSTNAME} Crocc

Fix for Blue Screen's and other fatal errors

by {USER_FIRSTNAME} Crocc » Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:45:54

I have been experiencing random blue screen's and other fatal errors,
usually after running GPL and exiting the program succesfully.  One in
particular was a vcomm.vxd fatal error, a file that wasn't even on my hard
drive.  I thought this odd and checked the web and came up with this fix...

http://www.racesimcentral.net/~revolution/vxdfix.html

The author of this website apparently was one of the beta testers for
Windows 98 and he stated that in their rush to get the product to the
market, Microsoft omitted several important vxd files (surprised??).  He
developed a batch file to fix this (it extracts the missing vxd files from
your windows cd and loads them on your hard drive).  So I tried it (I run
Win95) and it works great thus far.  I have also noticed my modem connects
fastet to the internet and my webpages seem to load faster.

So instead of blaming GPL for those fatal errors...it's just might be due to
those  missing vxd files.

KC

Jan Loebzie

Fix for Blue Screen's and other fatal errors

by Jan Loebzie » Tue, 20 Feb 2001 18:32:11

On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:45:54 -0500, "{USER_FIRSTNAME} Crocco"


>The author of this website apparently was one of the beta testers for
>Windows 98 and he stated that in their rush to get the product to the
>market, Microsoft omitted several important vxd files (surprised??).

That's an urban legend, so to say. These files are there in every
standard Windows installation, they are just packed together in
one larger file. Don't have the URL with the details on hand but
I'll see if I can find it.

But hey, if you *think* it improves things for you, just go ahead.
Imagination is quite a strong factor ... :)

Jan

Jason

Fix for Blue Screen's and other fatal errors

by Jason » Thu, 22 Feb 2001 04:04:24

Urban legend it is not.

The "one large file you speak of is not REALLY a real file at all. It is
vmm32.vxd which is a "global device driver" that windows uses in the absence
of proper devide drivers. It is not as efficient, nor is it really a file of
intent (as far as application goes). Windows likes to use it during install,
so that plug 'n pray will operate some devices immediately.

In fact... if you have not installed the files manually... you can simply
goto Control Panel>System>Display Device> Dub Click Card>Driver Info and
look at the vmm32.vxd and the "vdd.vxd" in brackets. Windows knows it needs
vdd.vxd, but cannot find it, so it uses vmm32.vxd in its absebce for basic
function.

You push that vid card, you gonna get instabilities, since Windows is also
using that device driver for many other devices at the same time... and that
file is not really intended for application, it is for basic function.

I highly suggest people install the vxds manually.

www.gplonline.com has a similar patch, along with many others for online
stability, etc. in the Tech Talk section.

Cheers,

Schumi


> On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:45:54 -0500, "{USER_FIRSTNAME} Crocco"

> >The author of this website apparently was one of the beta testers for
> >Windows 98 and he stated that in their rush to get the product to the
> >market, Microsoft omitted several important vxd files (surprised??).

> That's an urban legend, so to say. These files are there in every
> standard Windows installation, they are just packed together in
> one larger file. Don't have the URL with the details on hand but
> I'll see if I can find it.

> But hey, if you *think* it improves things for you, just go ahead.
> Imagination is quite a strong factor ... :)

> Jan

Cliff Roma

Fix for Blue Screen's and other fatal errors

by Cliff Roma » Thu, 22 Feb 2001 05:26:01

Jason, do you have that file for the vxds? when I try to download it off the
site you listed, I am getting a CGI error

Thanks



> Urban legend it is not.

> The "one large file you speak of is not REALLY a real file at all. It is
> vmm32.vxd which is a "global device driver" that windows uses in the
absence
> of proper devide drivers. It is not as efficient, nor is it really a file
of
> intent (as far as application goes). Windows likes to use it during
install,
> so that plug 'n pray will operate some devices immediately.

> In fact... if you have not installed the files manually... you can simply
> goto Control Panel>System>Display Device> Dub Click Card>Driver Info and
> look at the vmm32.vxd and the "vdd.vxd" in brackets. Windows knows it
needs
> vdd.vxd, but cannot find it, so it uses vmm32.vxd in its absebce for basic
> function.

> You push that vid card, you gonna get instabilities, since Windows is also
> using that device driver for many other devices at the same time... and
that
> file is not really intended for application, it is for basic function.

> I highly suggest people install the vxds manually.

> www.gplonline.com has a similar patch, along with many others for online
> stability, etc. in the Tech Talk section.

> Cheers,

> Schumi



> > On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:45:54 -0500, "{USER_FIRSTNAME} Crocco"

> > >The author of this website apparently was one of the beta testers for
> > >Windows 98 and he stated that in their rush to get the product to the
> > >market, Microsoft omitted several important vxd files (surprised??).

> > That's an urban legend, so to say. These files are there in every
> > standard Windows installation, they are just packed together in
> > one larger file. Don't have the URL with the details on hand but
> > I'll see if I can find it.

> > But hey, if you *think* it improves things for you, just go ahead.
> > Imagination is quite a strong factor ... :)

> > Jan

Gaul

Fix for Blue Screen's and other fatal errors

by Gaul » Thu, 22 Feb 2001 06:52:06


same here

Dog-Le

Fix for Blue Screen's and other fatal errors

by Dog-Le » Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:00:22

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Can someone please start this thread from the top, and explain _exactly_
what is being discussed here?

It sounds interesting and important.  I just can't figure it out because
there are sections missing...

Thanks :)

-Larry



> Urban legend it is not.

> The "one large file you speak of is not REALLY a real file at all. It is
> vmm32.vxd which is a "global device driver" that windows uses in the
absence
> of proper devide drivers. It is not as efficient, nor is it really a file
of
> intent (as far as application goes). Windows likes to use it during
install,
> so that plug 'n pray will operate some devices immediately.

> In fact... if you have not installed the files manually... you can simply
> goto Control Panel>System>Display Device> Dub Click Card>Driver Info and
> look at the vmm32.vxd and the "vdd.vxd" in brackets. Windows knows it
needs
> vdd.vxd, but cannot find it, so it uses vmm32.vxd in its absebce for basic
> function.

> You push that vid card, you gonna get instabilities, since Windows is also
> using that device driver for many other devices at the same time... and
that
> file is not really intended for application, it is for basic function.

> I highly suggest people install the vxds manually.

> www.gplonline.com has a similar patch, along with many others for online
> stability, etc. in the Tech Talk section.

> Cheers,

> Schumi



> > On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:45:54 -0500, "{USER_FIRSTNAME} Crocco"

> > >The author of this website apparently was one of the beta testers for
> > >Windows 98 and he stated that in their rush to get the product to the
> > >market, Microsoft omitted several important vxd files (surprised??).

> > That's an urban legend, so to say. These files are there in every
> > standard Windows installation, they are just packed together in
> > one larger file. Don't have the URL with the details on hand but
> > I'll see if I can find it.

> > But hey, if you *think* it improves things for you, just go ahead.
> > Imagination is quite a strong factor ... :)

> > Jan

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Jan Loebzie

Fix for Blue Screen's and other fatal errors

by Jan Loebzie » Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:11:17

On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:04:24 -0800, "Jason \"Schumi\" Murray"


>Urban legend it is not.

>The "one large file you speak of is not REALLY a real file at all. It is
>vmm32.vxd

Since when is a .vxd not a file?

It's like the unified Detonator drivers from Nvidia. They also work
for all cards from a TNT1 (or even Riva?) up to a Gefarce2 GTS Ultra.
Do you think that makes them any less efficient?

A driver can (and does) contain many different functions, which are
called independently once the driver is loaded into memory.

I'm repeating myself here:

Jan

Robin Lor

Fix for Blue Screen's and other fatal errors

by Robin Lor » Thu, 22 Feb 2001 08:24:16

http://www.infinisource.com/techfiles/vmm32.html

--
Cheers,

Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer.

http://www.oppositelock.co.uk

Nrburgring and Grand Prix Legends


| On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:45:54 -0500, "{USER_FIRSTNAME} Crocco"
|
|
| >The author of this website apparently was one of the beta testers for
| >Windows 98 and he stated that in their rush to get the product to the
| >market, Microsoft omitted several important vxd files (surprised??).
|
| That's an urban legend, so to say. These files are there in every
| standard Windows installation, they are just packed together in
| one larger file. Don't have the URL with the details on hand but
| I'll see if I can find it.
|
| But hey, if you *think* it improves things for you, just go ahead.
| Imagination is quite a strong factor ... :)
|
|
| Jan

Jason

Fix for Blue Screen's and other fatal errors

by Jason » Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:24:52

Sincere apologies... seems a misconfiguration the file extension in the
webserver caused this. All fixed, and tested.

Thanks for bringing this my attention.

Cheers,

Schumi


> Jason, do you have that file for the vxds? when I try to download it off
the
> site you listed, I am getting a CGI error

> Thanks



> > Urban legend it is not.

> > The "one large file you speak of is not REALLY a real file at all. It is
> > vmm32.vxd which is a "global device driver" that windows uses in the
> absence
> > of proper devide drivers. It is not as efficient, nor is it really a
file
> of
> > intent (as far as application goes). Windows likes to use it during
> install,
> > so that plug 'n pray will operate some devices immediately.

> > In fact... if you have not installed the files manually... you can
simply
> > goto Control Panel>System>Display Device> Dub Click Card>Driver Info and
> > look at the vmm32.vxd and the "vdd.vxd" in brackets. Windows knows it
> needs
> > vdd.vxd, but cannot find it, so it uses vmm32.vxd in its absebce for
basic
> > function.

> > You push that vid card, you gonna get instabilities, since Windows is
also
> > using that device driver for many other devices at the same time... and
> that
> > file is not really intended for application, it is for basic function.

> > I highly suggest people install the vxds manually.

> > www.gplonline.com has a similar patch, along with many others for online
> > stability, etc. in the Tech Talk section.

> > Cheers,

> > Schumi



> > > On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:45:54 -0500, "{USER_FIRSTNAME} Crocco"

> > > >The author of this website apparently was one of the beta testers for
> > > >Windows 98 and he stated that in their rush to get the product to the
> > > >market, Microsoft omitted several important vxd files (surprised??).

> > > That's an urban legend, so to say. These files are there in every
> > > standard Windows installation, they are just packed together in
> > > one larger file. Don't have the URL with the details on hand but
> > > I'll see if I can find it.

> > > But hey, if you *think* it improves things for you, just go ahead.
> > > Imagination is quite a strong factor ... :)

> > > Jan

Cliff Roma

Fix for Blue Screen's and other fatal errors

by Cliff Roma » Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:21:55

How will that work for WinME?



> Sincere apologies... seems a misconfiguration the file extension in the
> webserver caused this. All fixed, and tested.

> Thanks for bringing this my attention.

> Cheers,

> Schumi



> > Jason, do you have that file for the vxds? when I try to download it off
> the
> > site you listed, I am getting a CGI error

> > Thanks



> > > Urban legend it is not.

> > > The "one large file you speak of is not REALLY a real file at all. It
is
> > > vmm32.vxd which is a "global device driver" that windows uses in the
> > absence
> > > of proper devide drivers. It is not as efficient, nor is it really a
> file
> > of
> > > intent (as far as application goes). Windows likes to use it during
> > install,
> > > so that plug 'n pray will operate some devices immediately.

> > > In fact... if you have not installed the files manually... you can
> simply
> > > goto Control Panel>System>Display Device> Dub Click Card>Driver Info
and
> > > look at the vmm32.vxd and the "vdd.vxd" in brackets. Windows knows it
> > needs
> > > vdd.vxd, but cannot find it, so it uses vmm32.vxd in its absebce for
> basic
> > > function.

> > > You push that vid card, you gonna get instabilities, since Windows is
> also
> > > using that device driver for many other devices at the same time...
and
> > that
> > > file is not really intended for application, it is for basic function.

> > > I highly suggest people install the vxds manually.

> > > www.gplonline.com has a similar patch, along with many others for
online
> > > stability, etc. in the Tech Talk section.

> > > Cheers,

> > > Schumi



> > > > On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:45:54 -0500, "{USER_FIRSTNAME} Crocco"

> > > > >The author of this website apparently was one of the beta testers
for
> > > > >Windows 98 and he stated that in their rush to get the product to
the
> > > > >market, Microsoft omitted several important vxd files
(surprised??).

> > > > That's an urban legend, so to say. These files are there in every
> > > > standard Windows installation, they are just packed together in
> > > > one larger file. Don't have the URL with the details on hand but
> > > > I'll see if I can find it.

> > > > But hey, if you *think* it improves things for you, just go ahead.
> > > > Imagination is quite a strong factor ... :)

> > > > Jan

Jason

Fix for Blue Screen's and other fatal errors

by Jason » Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:44:29

Not advisable that you use that patch for ME.

Although... I did not test it to see the results, since I found too many
other bugs in ME that forced me to drop it completely. ME spent all of 48
hours on one of my boxes... then out tha door.

The best thing to do is again check your device drivers section in System.
Check the vidcard, and any network cards you may have. Look for the
brackets. If there are none... you won't need a patch.

In short, don't know if this problem exists in ME to begin with... so don't
use that patch on it (those are win98 vxds included in that patch).

Cheers,

Schumi


> How will that work for WinME?



> > Sincere apologies... seems a misconfiguration the file extension in the
> > webserver caused this. All fixed, and tested.

> > Thanks for bringing this my attention.

> > Cheers,

> > Schumi



> > > Jason, do you have that file for the vxds? when I try to download it
off
> > the
> > > site you listed, I am getting a CGI error

> > > Thanks


message

> > > > Urban legend it is not.

> > > > The "one large file you speak of is not REALLY a real file at all.
It
> is
> > > > vmm32.vxd which is a "global device driver" that windows uses in the
> > > absence
> > > > of proper devide drivers. It is not as efficient, nor is it really a
> > file
> > > of
> > > > intent (as far as application goes). Windows likes to use it during
> > > install,
> > > > so that plug 'n pray will operate some devices immediately.

> > > > In fact... if you have not installed the files manually... you can
> > simply
> > > > goto Control Panel>System>Display Device> Dub Click Card>Driver Info
> and
> > > > look at the vmm32.vxd and the "vdd.vxd" in brackets. Windows knows
it
> > > needs
> > > > vdd.vxd, but cannot find it, so it uses vmm32.vxd in its absebce for
> > basic
> > > > function.

> > > > You push that vid card, you gonna get instabilities, since Windows
is
> > also
> > > > using that device driver for many other devices at the same time...
> and
> > > that
> > > > file is not really intended for application, it is for basic
function.

> > > > I highly suggest people install the vxds manually.

> > > > www.gplonline.com has a similar patch, along with many others for
> online
> > > > stability, etc. in the Tech Talk section.

> > > > Cheers,

> > > > Schumi



> > > > > On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:45:54 -0500, "{USER_FIRSTNAME} Crocco"

> > > > > >The author of this website apparently was one of the beta testers
> for
> > > > > >Windows 98 and he stated that in their rush to get the product to
> the
> > > > > >market, Microsoft omitted several important vxd files
> (surprised??).

> > > > > That's an urban legend, so to say. These files are there in every
> > > > > standard Windows installation, they are just packed together in
> > > > > one larger file. Don't have the URL with the details on hand but
> > > > > I'll see if I can find it.

> > > > > But hey, if you *think* it improves things for you, just go ahead.
> > > > > Imagination is quite a strong factor ... :)

> > > > > Jan

Cliff Roma

Fix for Blue Screen's and other fatal errors

by Cliff Roma » Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:07:56

It does exist.. so I guess I can just manually extract those files out of
the WinME cabs



> Not advisable that you use that patch for ME.

> Although... I did not test it to see the results, since I found too many
> other bugs in ME that forced me to drop it completely. ME spent all of 48
> hours on one of my boxes... then out tha door.

> The best thing to do is again check your device drivers section in System.
> Check the vidcard, and any network cards you may have. Look for the
> brackets. If there are none... you won't need a patch.

> In short, don't know if this problem exists in ME to begin with... so
don't
> use that patch on it (those are win98 vxds included in that patch).

> Cheers,

> Schumi



> > How will that work for WinME?



> > > Sincere apologies... seems a misconfiguration the file extension in
the
> > > webserver caused this. All fixed, and tested.

> > > Thanks for bringing this my attention.

> > > Cheers,

> > > Schumi



> > > > Jason, do you have that file for the vxds? when I try to download it
> off
> > > the
> > > > site you listed, I am getting a CGI error

> > > > Thanks


> message

> > > > > Urban legend it is not.

> > > > > The "one large file you speak of is not REALLY a real file at all.
> It
> > is
> > > > > vmm32.vxd which is a "global device driver" that windows uses in
the
> > > > absence
> > > > > of proper devide drivers. It is not as efficient, nor is it really
a
> > > file
> > > > of
> > > > > intent (as far as application goes). Windows likes to use it
during
> > > > install,
> > > > > so that plug 'n pray will operate some devices immediately.

> > > > > In fact... if you have not installed the files manually... you can
> > > simply
> > > > > goto Control Panel>System>Display Device> Dub Click Card>Driver
Info
> > and
> > > > > look at the vmm32.vxd and the "vdd.vxd" in brackets. Windows knows
> it
> > > > needs
> > > > > vdd.vxd, but cannot find it, so it uses vmm32.vxd in its absebce
for
> > > basic
> > > > > function.

> > > > > You push that vid card, you gonna get instabilities, since Windows
> is
> > > also
> > > > > using that device driver for many other devices at the same
time...
> > and
> > > > that
> > > > > file is not really intended for application, it is for basic
> function.

> > > > > I highly suggest people install the vxds manually.

> > > > > www.gplonline.com has a similar patch, along with many others for
> > online
> > > > > stability, etc. in the Tech Talk section.

> > > > > Cheers,

> > > > > Schumi



> > > > > > On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:45:54 -0500, "{USER_FIRSTNAME} Crocco"

> > > > > > >The author of this website apparently was one of the beta
testers
> > for
> > > > > > >Windows 98 and he stated that in their rush to get the product
to
> > the
> > > > > > >market, Microsoft omitted several important vxd files
> > (surprised??).

> > > > > > That's an urban legend, so to say. These files are there in
every
> > > > > > standard Windows installation, they are just packed together in
> > > > > > one larger file. Don't have the URL with the details on hand but
> > > > > > I'll see if I can find it.

> > > > > > But hey, if you *think* it improves things for you, just go
ahead.
> > > > > > Imagination is quite a strong factor ... :)

> > > > > > Jan

Pete

Fix for Blue Screen's and other fatal errors

by Pete » Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:13:48


You people are mad.  The reason a lot of vxd's are bundles into the large
vmm32.vxd is to reduce the boot-up time.

By extracting these *SAME* files onto your hard disk you will a) increase
your boot-up time (not by much though) and b) reduce memory available as the
vmm32.vxd will still be loaded (again not by much though).

However, if doing this makes you feel better and give you some sort of sense
of power over your OS then go right ahead.

Don't take my word for it or the word of a single web page... go and do some
research first.

Jan Loebzie

Fix for Blue Screen's and other fatal errors

by Jan Loebzie » Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:06:32

On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 23:24:16 -0000, "Robin Lord"


>http://www.infinisource.com/techfiles/vmm32.html

Thanks! I head it from a different site but it does say the same.

Jan


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