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GPL 2 - What Might Have Been

Steve Smit

GPL 2 - What Might Have Been

by Steve Smit » Wed, 28 May 2003 11:38:12

Dave Noonan's NASCAR 2003/N2002/N4 Converter - An Appreciation

Let's hear it for Dave Noonan, an early GPL trackmaker (his Imola remains
one of the game's enduring pleasures), and previous auteur of a successful
GPL track converter.

Now mining the same sources, he has come up with a NASCAR 2003/N2002/N4
converter that allows you to drive late-model Cup cars at 31 tracks
"borrowed" from previous Papy games like IndyCar Racing and NASCAR Legends.
While stock cars are a bit more wobbly and wallowy than vintage Formula One
cars, the improvements in Papy's physics model (particularly the tire
modeling) give you an idea of what driving GPL 2 might have felt like...and
it feels good.

Frankly, my dears, I don't give a damn about any more ovals (even Papy's new
figure-8 add-on for N2003 is a bore), but I do have a keen appreciation for
the road courses in the converter, particularly Riverside (you drive thru
sand storms in the Esses, just like Gurney did), Spa (would you believe
3:05s in a *stock* car?), Monza (at last, an easy way to go sub-1:30),
Mosport, Monaco, a chicane-less Watkins Glen, Rouen, and Kyalami.

Less successful but still interesting: Heartland, Laguna Seca, Mexico,
Mid-Ohio, Portland, Surfers, Toronto, and Vancouver.  Be warned: I had some
texture problems with an ATI Radeon (altho none with an nVidia GeForce).

Grab it at:

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

The full version is a mere 15 U.K. pounds, and worth every pence.  If you
need further convincing, a demo is available for free.

Previous Noonan converters for Papy's NASCAR series add tracks like the
infamous Bull Run, Ste. Jovite, the Oesterreichring, and Silverstone (a
gem...and perfect for online bashes).

It's made a Cup car road-racer outta me.  I'm nominating Noonan for
knighthood.  Seconds?

--Steve Smith

William Bradsha

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by William Bradsha » Wed, 28 May 2003 13:35:21


> Frankly, my dears, I don't give a damn about any more ovals (even Papy's new

Sinner. You must repent! ;)

hehe. I'm kidding ya, man. That's just the beer talkin'. :)

-Will

Lawman_027

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by Lawman_027 » Wed, 28 May 2003 17:10:33

A second here. Without question (in my mind anyway), Dave's work is
the single biggest improvement to the NRxxxx series ever. The only
thing closer is the excellent spotter sound pack made by Dave Hoffman
(the way the spotter SHOULD have been done, Papy).

Dave Noonan's converter + End of the line for NASCAR sims by Papy +
Ingenuity of the sim community regarding mods & updates = One hell of
a good time!

If the sim community spends 50% of the time it did/does on GPL on the
Nr2003, then look out. Spanning Tom Pabst and others with their track
graphics, Dave Hoffman and his continued work on the spotter/crew
chief and OH, to have the ability to convert the best GPL user made
tracks to a NR2003 format......

As a die hard NASCAR fan (for the time being, they are quickly
spinning out of conrol and driving me ((and plenty of others))
away...but that's for another thread), I usually race the hell outta
the new Papy sim and then wait and wait and wait until I can get ahold
of the newest converter from DN. He never disappoints, imo.

Thanks again, Dave. Keep it up and keep the converts coming
(Lemans??????)

Dave R.

Steve Smit

GPL 2 - What Might Have Been

by Steve Smit » Wed, 28 May 2003 23:04:21

Forgot Elkhart Lake, a great stock car track.


Jason Moy

GPL 2 - What Might Have Been

by Jason Moy » Wed, 28 May 2003 23:19:44

On Tue, 27 May 2003 02:38:12 GMT, "Steve Smith"


>Dave Noonan's NASCAR 2003/N2002/N4 Converter - An Appreciation

Only reason I've loaded the sim in the past 3 months, quite frankly.

GPL tracks are a blast, as are Long Beach and Laguna Seca.

Now if someone would get around to converting Lime Rock, Falkenberg,
and Bathurst from GPL we'd be really cooking. =)

Jason

Vint..

GPL 2 - What Might Have Been

by Vint.. » Wed, 28 May 2003 23:50:02

I have the converter but how do you convert riverside, and O-ring?

Steve Smit

GPL 2 - What Might Have Been

by Steve Smit » Thu, 29 May 2003 00:34:42

The Oring was from an earlier converter.  For the late, great Riverside, you
need a (rare) copy of NASCAR Legends.


John DiFoo

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by John DiFoo » Thu, 29 May 2003 01:53:28



>On Tue, 27 May 2003 02:38:12 GMT, "Steve Smith"

>>Dave Noonan's NASCAR 2003/N2002/N4 Converter - An Appreciation

>Only reason I've loaded the sim in the past 3 months, quite frankly.

>GPL tracks are a blast, as are Long Beach and Laguna Seca.

>Now if someone would get around to converting Lime Rock, Falkenberg,
>and Bathurst from GPL we'd be really cooking. =)

>Jason

And Gronland.

I frankly am completely in love with Spa at this point.  I know you
*** types prefer the agonies of the 'Ring, but for someone
who isn't quite at that level of ability (and is too lazy to memorize
all those turns), Spa is a dream, even if I keep wrecking every
third lap (I particularly hate it when I lose it, slide through one of
those "ghost" houses, and can't get back on the friggin track...).

        John DiFool

Uncle Feste

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by Uncle Feste » Thu, 29 May 2003 04:47:12


> The only
> thing closer is the excellent spotter sound pack made by Dave Hoffman
> (the way the spotter SHOULD have been done, Papy).

Got an URL for this one?

--

Fester

Goy Larse

GPL 2 - What Might Have Been

by Goy Larse » Thu, 29 May 2003 05:10:29


> Dave Noonan's NASCAR 2003/N2002/N4 Converter - An Appreciation

I hear a roumor that Dave's hired a new PR guy......:-)

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"

http://www.theuspits.com

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--

Steve Smit

GPL 2 - What Might Have Been

by Steve Smit » Thu, 29 May 2003 08:59:42

Doesn't need one.  <VBG>



> > Dave Noonan's NASCAR 2003/N2002/N4 Converter - An Appreciation

> I hear a roumor that Dave's hired a new PR guy......:-)

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy
> "goyl at nettx dot no"

> http://www.theuspits.com

> "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
> --Groucho Marx--

Steve Smit

GPL 2 - What Might Have Been

by Steve Smit » Thu, 29 May 2003 09:41:17

Yeah, I'd like Dave Hoffman's addy too.  TIA.



> > The only
> > thing closer is the excellent spotter sound pack made by Dave Hoffman
> > (the way the spotter SHOULD have been done, Papy).

> Got an URL for this one?

> --

> Fester

Steve Smit

GPL 2 - What Might Have Been

by Steve Smit » Thu, 29 May 2003 09:46:53

Ya lazy toad!  Try Google!  Here:

http://www.dwarehouse.com/nr03.htm


> Yeah, I'd like Dave Hoffman's addy too.  TIA.




> > > The only
> > > thing closer is the excellent spotter sound pack made by Dave Hoffman
> > > (the way the spotter SHOULD have been done, Papy).

> > Got an URL for this one?

> > --

> > Fester

Eldre

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by Eldre » Thu, 29 May 2003 11:53:46



>The Oring was from an earlier converter.  For the late, great Riverside, you
>need a (rare) copy of NASCAR Legends.

Rare?  The last two Best Buys I went into had a couple copies on the shelf...

Eldred
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Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Thu, 29 May 2003 14:26:27

Question, chaps:
Is it necessary to first buy the N2002 Converter or is there actually a
N2003 Converter?
(The last converter I bought from David was for GPL->ICR2, I think!! Or the
other way 'round - not sure)

Bruce.


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