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Here's my letter to the AVAULT: Re: Craig Miller's GPL review

Clancy Wild

Here's my letter to the AVAULT: Re: Craig Miller's GPL review

by Clancy Wild » Sat, 07 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Well stated!  I might add I agree with Avaults 2.5 stars as
well. Naturally I speak as one who didnt want to devote his
life to GPL and therefore returned it. I also guess it
wll be in the bargain bins right after Xmas. Only wish Ubisoft
in Moncaco II had a '67 retro mode than a 50. Or better yet,
Ubi doing a '67 to '72 F1 sim.

> I thought his review was pretty fair and evenhanded and follows closely with
> the posts you see on this newsgroup.  He mentioned that it is a very
> difficult game to master and would have been improved with "easier" or
> "arcade" settings.  That follows closely with postings I have read here.  He
> said that it would appeal to the hard core simmer.  That follows with what
> you see in this group.  Don't minimize that a huge percentage of the people
> in this group are hard core simmers.  They don't mind....heck they even
> enjoy....devoting hours to learn the feel of a car.  They enjoy
> experimenting with setups and developing the best setups on their own.  That
> is in contrast to the majority of people who want to get out there and race.

> There is no doubt, from what I read, that this game has a steep learning
> curve.  There is also no doubt that Papy could have handled this curve
> better.  I have seen several suggestions, from letting people race the
> trainers to adding steering assistance/braking assistance, etc, to being
> able to set the AI's speed.  In my opinion, Papy made a huge miscalculation
> not doing this.  Sure the hard core simmer will work through this hurdle but
> the average racing fan will not.  This narrows the market for the product
> and lowers sales.  Less sales mean less income for development of future
> products and addons.  Papy's "let the casual racer be damned" attitude may
> send this fine simulation straight to the bargain shelves.  A pity really.
> Sure it will continue to be hallowed by the hard core simmers but,
> unfortunately, there are not enough of 'em out there to support the huge
> software development costs a product like this has.  Papy needs to appeal to
> the whole racing set (like they did with the Nascar series) in order to stay
> in business.

Peter Ho

Here's my letter to the AVAULT: Re: Craig Miller's GPL review

by Peter Ho » Sun, 08 Nov 1998 04:00:00

On Fri, 06 Nov 1998 21:43:10 -0500, Clancy Wilde


>Well stated!  I might add I agree with Avaults 2.5 stars as
>well. Naturally I speak as one who didnt want to devote his
>life to GPL and therefore returned it. I also guess it
>wll be in the bargain bins right after Xmas. Only wish Ubisoft
>in Moncaco II had a '67 retro mode than a 50. Or better yet,
>Ubi doing a '67 to '72 F1 sim.

Tried Monaco back to back with GPL. By comparison, I would give Monaco
half a star, and the retro mode no stars at all.  So you see, opinions
vary, and there is something on the shelves to suit everybody.

BTW, I'd be ***y grateful that you can return software.  In
Australia, you can't return software at all  If a disc was faulty,
they will replace it with another copy but you can't return. That's
industry wide practice.

Peter Holt

Douglas Hillma

Here's my letter to the AVAULT: Re: Craig Miller's GPL review

by Douglas Hillma » Sun, 08 Nov 1998 04:00:00


>What a load of rubbish,GPL is the best SIMULATION of any racing sim

out there,if you can`t drive it then your driving sucks.
Flight Sim,as Unlike you I crave REALISM.

  If what you crave is realism, you'd better toss MSCFS rite in
the trash.  Go get Microprose's EAW instead.  And if you
also crave fun, the same advice applies.  CFS isn't even in
the same class as EAW.

  -dobe-


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