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Bush Sucks, Vote GREEN

Glockenspi

Bush Sucks, Vote GREEN

by Glockenspi » Mon, 07 Aug 2000 04:00:00




>>Well, two things for me are hard to believe.  First, that you'd post
>>this to such a newsgroup as this.

>Yep - as I said elsewhere after I (stupidly) got involved, the place
>for petty political argument isn't in ras - it's in rasf1.

>> And second, that you are unaware
>>that racing car simulator drives as a group do not vote in
>>presidential elections.  
><snip>

>Especially if they live in countries that don't *have* a president...

>>But if we did, and some of us do, we'd vote for STEEL.  Not Green.

>No idea who Steel is, so I'll let that one pass. But I'll just say
>that since I started voting, I've voted for <counts on fingers...>
>*six* different parties at various levels - so nyahhh!

Tim Steele (ARCA)? hehe.............Anyway, All of you that really
think your vote matters, go to your local video store and rent "JFK".
Then go home and watch it about 3 times, then come back in here and
tell me that your vote really matters. Politics is all about money and
compromise. It doesn't matter who gets elected into the White House,
he/she will be told what to do by the CIA, the mob and the large
corporate sector of this nation, or he/she will die (or be compromised
in some way). Sad........but true.

Todd

ps. I don't vote, never have voted and never will.

Davi

Bush Sucks, Vote GREEN

by Davi » Mon, 07 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Well we think campaign finance reform will solve problems, but its ruins
the ablitity for people who believe in a person from supporting them with
money.  The big stink this year is that Bush has raised so much money and
he did not take matching funds from the Governement and he is not limited
by the rules for taking matching funds.

I do not think reform in this area will solve anything, but it will limit
our ability to support people we want elected.  As always there are
problems with any system and there is a way around every solution.  I think
the current admistration here has demostrated that enough already.

Dave

HJ Ventur

Bush Sucks, Vote GREEN

by HJ Ventur » Mon, 07 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Why bother Europeans with this voting issue. I mean, this whole voting
procedure in America is crap. Its just one big entertainment. Good for the
theatre, but i hope nobody takes this seriously. All Europeans are laughing
about this procedures and so do I.

I mean a copple of crazy guys with names like Bush or***who are telling
people what they gonna do. And when they are choosen, they never do that
things they were telling. And the discussions between such guys on the
television. Hehehehehe. I mean: it says enough that a guy like Ronald
Reagon, who once was an actor, was choosen for president, hehehe. He was
still acting when he was the president.....

I am glad this procedures are far more normal in Europe!! And when i want to
go to the theatre in Europe, well.....maybe they can invite Bush or
Gore.....that will be fun (nothing more)

Gaul

Bush Sucks, Vote GREEN

by Gaul » Mon, 07 Aug 2000 04:00:00



> >Well, two things for me are hard to believe.  First, that you'd post
> >this to such a newsgroup as this.

> Yep - as I said elsewhere after I (stupidly) got involved, the place
> for petty political argument isn't in ras - it's in rasf1.

LOL!  Spot on with that one.
Gaul

Bush Sucks, Vote GREEN

by Gaul » Mon, 07 Aug 2000 04:00:00


> Tim Steele (ARCA)? hehe.............Anyway, All of you that really
> think your vote matters, go to your local video store and rent "JFK".
> Then go home and watch it about 3 times, then come back in here and
> tell me that your vote really matters. Politics is all about money and
> compromise. It doesn't matter who gets elected into the White House,
> he/she will be told what to do by the CIA, the mob and the large
> corporate sector of this nation, or he/she will die (or be compromised
> in some way). Sad........but true.

I'd agree with most of what you said, but I wouldn't recommend using Oliver
Stone movies to back up your point.  There are plenty of real life examples
in the news which should show the same thing.
(incredibly off topic here, and embarrassed to jump in :-)
Gaul

Bush Sucks, Vote GREEN

by Gaul » Mon, 07 Aug 2000 04:00:00


I wouldn't be bragging about European politics.  Does the name Cicciolina
ring a bell?  Kind of puts Clinton's escapades in perspective. :-)

David Kar

Bush Sucks, Vote GREEN

by David Kar » Mon, 07 Aug 2000 04:00:00

Yeah, and then he'd take all our children away and raise them in communist
camps.  He'd probably even burn the flag!

--DK




> > > Ralph Nader is no joker or thief. I think he and the Greens could

> Now that is funny, praising THAT guy on THIS newsgroup.

> Hey buddy, if Ralph Nader had his way, ordinary citizens would not even
> be allowd to own a car, much less race them.

> -Tony-

HJ Ventur

Bush Sucks, Vote GREEN

by HJ Ventur » Tue, 08 Aug 2000 04:00:00

I said the procedure is 'far more normal' than in the USA. Ofcourse here are
also stupid things, but then you dont see the whole crowd is supporting it
!!!
Anyways this is rec.autos.simulators
Ofcourse Bush is also 'simulating' but lets stop this discussion here !

Gaul

Bush Sucks, Vote GREEN

by Gaul » Tue, 08 Aug 2000 04:00:00


"Far more normal" isn't very descriptive, since different countries have
different ways of doing things.  The Italians may be satisfied with changing
governments every 8 months or so (or whatever they're up to these days), but
other countries seem to prefer less volatile transitions.  You've ignored
these differences in methods between individual European countries.  All you
*have* done is make vague claims that US politics is simply entertainment
and is somehow inferior to European politics.  As far as entertainment goes,
I'd much rather watch the British Parliament in session for political
entertainment than the somewhat dull sessions of the US Congress.  (I'm
totally serious about that last bit btw- I love those exchanges and the
responses from the crowd in England.  Very entertaining, and I mean that in
a good way.)  But as for US politics, there's a lot going on every day of
every year, so if you're basing your opinion on the last 8 months of
campaigning then you're missing the big picture.  The really important
issues are being debated and fought over all the time, not only when the
elections approach, so by the time the conventions come around it's a bit
anti-climactic.  We already know pretty much what the parties' platforms
will be since they've been talking about these things for months, if not
years.  Sure, my jaw would drop if the Republicans came out in favor of
*** on demand or the Democrats decided to s***their support of
affirmative action plans.  But its not going to happen.

If you want to bash the US system then go right ahead, preferably somewhere
other than ras (as Mr. Buttery has said, rasf1 is the place for that :).
I'd probably jump in with you on some things.  But simply saying that "the
US election sucks" and "we're better than you" isn't very interesting or
informative.  Matter of fact, there are countless NVIDIA vs 3Dfx threads
with more substance than your last couple of posts.  And they're probably
all more interesting and on topic than either of *our* posts have been.

End of long pointless rant.
I now return you to your regularly scheduled GP3 bashing/praising.

David Butte

Bush Sucks, Vote GREEN

by David Butte » Tue, 08 Aug 2000 04:00:00


This has always puzzled us Brits (the flag, not the communist camps).
Has no-one in the US worked out that people in Iran, Cuba etc burn your
flag *because* (some of) you get so worked up over it? If I saw someone
burning my flag, I'd probably be a bit annoyed, but it's hardly WW3
material.

--
David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.17)
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
really."
(Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

pez

Bush Sucks, Vote GREEN

by pez » Tue, 08 Aug 2000 04:00:00

ermmm............Hows about this one...

Jesse The Body Ventura....

LOL

Pez says politics and message boards dont work....

There is no god, only religion......Pro choice....anti death......LOL




>> Why bother Europeans with this voting issue. I mean, this whole voting
>> procedure in America is crap. Its just one big entertainment. Good for
the
>> theatre, but i hope nobody takes this seriously. All Europeans are
>laughing
>> about this procedures and so do I.

>> I mean a copple of crazy guys with names like Bush or***who are
telling
>> people what they gonna do. And when they are choosen, they never do that
>> things they were telling. And the discussions between such guys on the
>> television. Hehehehehe. I mean: it says enough that a guy like Ronald
>> Reagon, who once was an actor, was choosen for president, hehehe. He was
>> still acting when he was the president.....

>> I am glad this procedures are far more normal in Europe!! And when i want
>to
>> go to the theatre in Europe, well.....maybe they can invite Bush or
>> Gore.....that will be fun (nothing more)

>I wouldn't be bragging about European politics.  Does the name Cicciolina
>ring a bell?  Kind of puts Clinton's escapades in perspective. :-)

Uncle Feste

Bush Sucks, Vote GREEN

by Uncle Feste » Tue, 08 Aug 2000 04:00:00


> ermmm............Hows about this one...

> Jesse The Body Ventura....

ROTFLMAO!!  Don't *that* about say it all. <g>

--
Chuck Kandler

Windows is just a virus with a GUI


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