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I'm using my Son's computer because.....

Dave Henri

I'm using my Son's computer because.....

by Dave Henri » Mon, 21 May 2001 11:56:40

   I always have to do things the hard way.  And NOW I have really screwed
things. up.
  I dloaded the files necessary to flash update my system bios.  Formtted a
floppy just like I was supposed to.  Then copied the flasher utility and the
upated bios files onto the floppy.  I missed the autoexec.bat file that runs
the update automatically so I went back to my desktop to copy that file as
well.  Unfortunately, I must have double clicked on it by mistake because
the autoexec.bat started up the flasher utility in windows...I didn't catch
on what I had just did until I rebooted  my system to start the bios update.
beeeeep beep beep.... beepbeepbeepbeepbeepbeepbeepbeep   etc til the power
cord was yanked.
   I have totally corrupted my system bios so badly that I can't even get a
floppy to boot to fix it...ANY ONE know of a company that fixes fried
bios'????
dave (the stoooopid one) henrie
Don Burnett

I'm using my Son's computer because.....

by Don Burnett » Mon, 21 May 2001 12:08:31

That's a bummer. You should be able to order a new bios chip from your mb
mfg, I don't think they are very expensive. I doubt anyone could repair it,
though some report success with hot swapping - basically using someone
else's chip to get yours booted and your current chip flashed properly, I
don't know exactly how they accomplish that but would think it could be
risky.

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The problem is, they do nothing.
And THAT is wrong.


TToomm

I'm using my Son's computer because.....

by TToomm » Mon, 21 May 2001 12:26:45

Don't know much about flashing the bios.  But if the CMOS gets
messed up you can just press the "Delete" key when booting, and
then type in the hardware info.   But you probably knew that.

A few weeks ago, the CIH virus kicked my ass and I had to
switch a motherboard jumper to discharge the CMOS, resetting
it to the default.  I believe that is what a technician would have done.
Check out your motherboard manual, maybe there is such a
hardware switch for your problem.  If you don't have a motherboard
manual, go to the motherboard manufacturer's website and check
out the online manual.   Or, you might check out the bios
providers website.    Good Luck.

Tom

JJ Srickli

I'm using my Son's computer because.....

by JJ Srickli » Mon, 21 May 2001 12:31:12

Need to order a new chip.
Thom j

I'm using my Son's computer because.....

by Thom j » Mon, 21 May 2001 14:23:21

Dave, My local Guru` puter builder flashed my bios on my old Abit 6
and ended up putting in a brand new mobo for me. "Free!"
Now, I don't know if he just didn't want to bother trying to reflash or
fix it but I got the newer AbitSA6R that runs up to 1.5ghz CPUs but
for now I'll stay under 1.33ghz as I still really enjoy GPL..
Sorry about your bad flash incident & wish I had some info!!
Thom_j.

|    I always have to do things the hard way.  And NOW I have really screwed
| things. up.
|   I dloaded the files necessary to flash update my system bios.  Formtted
a
| floppy just like I was supposed to.  Then copied the flasher utility and
the
| upated bios files onto the floppy.  I missed the autoexec.bat file that
runs
| the update automatically so I went back to my desktop to copy that file as
| well.  Unfortunately, I must have double clicked on it by mistake because
| the autoexec.bat started up the flasher utility in windows...I didn't
catch
| on what I had just did until I rebooted  my system to start the bios
update.
| beeeeep beep beep.... beepbeepbeepbeepbeepbeepbeepbeep   etc til the power
| cord was yanked.
|    I have totally corrupted my system bios so badly that I can't even get
a
| floppy to boot to fix it...ANY ONE know of a company that fixes fried
| bios'????
| dave (the stoooopid one) henrie
|
|

Mike Whit

I'm using my Son's computer because.....

by Mike Whit » Mon, 21 May 2001 15:22:30

All may not be lost.

The beepbeepbeep thing sounds like it could be a memory problem.  If
possible swap the memory with a stick that is known good.

Last time I had a BIOS problem I had to disconnect EVERYTHING except the
floppy.  I couldn't boot with a card in the AGP slot but could with a PCI
vid card.

With the PCI card I could see I had a BIOS checksum error.

By booting from the floppy I was able to flash the bios again and all was
well.

I investigated purchasing a new BIOS chip but the price quoted was almost
the replacement price of the MB so I passed.


Jan Verschuere

I'm using my Son's computer because.....

by Jan Verschuere » Tue, 22 May 2001 04:02:38

Dave,

Do you know someone who owns an IC programmer? A bios chip is just an EEPROM
with a program in it, which in your case has gotten seriously garbled. The
chip can easily be reprogrammed seperately with the image you downloaded to
do the upgrade in the first place. 2 minute job.

Over here many computer stores are offering this service, but, since they
assume the customer is pretty desperate, it's not cheap.

Jan.
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Jagg

I'm using my Son's computer because.....

by Jagg » Tue, 22 May 2001 00:50:22



Don't you have a jumper on the mb that will wipe out that bios and
allow you to reflash it? Most do these days.
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@@..PJL..@

I'm using my Son's computer because.....

by @@..PJL..@ » Wed, 23 May 2001 21:56:15


I had this happen to me..  I used another computer to set up the
autoexec.bat on the floppy so that the BIOS flasher would automatically
start.  I kept my fingers crossed and sat through some unnerving beeping but
I was able to recover from what I thought would be a disaster.  Good luck!

PJL

Dave Henri

I'm using my Son's computer because.....

by Dave Henri » Thu, 24 May 2001 12:32:16

"Jagg" > Don't you have a jumper on the mb that will wipe out that bios and
  yep...no apparent effect.
dave henrie
Dave Henri

I'm using my Son's computer because.....

by Dave Henri » Thu, 24 May 2001 12:37:26

   My MB has a 4 l.e.d. error checking BEFORE it goes to the bios and the
memory post.  So with this error,,,it halts the boot process before the
floppy can boot.(this too is probably my fault.  I had recently re-installed
windows from the cd and had changed my bios settings to bypass the floppy &
boot from the cd.  I was getting ready to change it back when the
problem/disaster started.)
  i do see a little cdrom activity...I'm gonna try and create a bootable cd
and see if that gets it back...uhhhh does anyone know how to create a
bootable cdrom???
dave henrie

Rick Fis

I'm using my Son's computer because.....

by Rick Fis » Thu, 24 May 2001 13:04:09

Dave - what kind of motherboard do you have?


Dave Henri

I'm using my Son's computer because.....

by Dave Henri » Thu, 24 May 2001 14:36:01

  Almost brand new Microstar K7T Turbo.  using an award bios but the chip is
very odd looking.  It's not the standard domino rectangular shape nor the
mounted right on the surface of the motherboard flat square.  It's smaller
than most of those, it sits in a socket and it looks removeable.  (it's
square btw)  with a nice hologram on the top surface of the chip.
dave henrie

> Dave - what kind of motherboard do you have?



> > > I had this happen to me..  I used another computer to set up the
> > > autoexec.bat on the floppy so that the BIOS flasher would
automatically
> > > start.  I kept my fingers crossed and sat through some unnerving
beeping
> > but
> > > I was able to recover from what I thought would be a disaster.  Good
> luck!

> > > PJL
> >    My MB has a 4 l.e.d. error checking BEFORE it goes to the bios and
the
> > memory post.  So with this error,,,it halts the boot process before the
> > floppy can boot.(this too is probably my fault.  I had recently
> re-installed
> > windows from the cd and had changed my bios settings to bypass the
floppy
> &
> > boot from the cd.  I was getting ready to change it back when the
> > problem/disaster started.)
> >   i do see a little cdrom activity...I'm gonna try and create a bootable
> cd
> > and see if that gets it back...uhhhh does anyone know how to create a
> > bootable cdrom???
> > dave henrie

Robi

I'm using my Son's computer because.....

by Robi » Thu, 24 May 2001 16:23:58

Dave,
If you know of somewhere you can get a bios chip out of an identical model
MSI board your best bet is the hot swap... basically you use the borrowed
chip to boot your system and then swap the bios chip without shutting down
by pulling the good one and replacing it with your bad one... then reflash.
There is an excellent faq for Abit owners that has a section with step by
step instructions for using the "hot swap" method at:
http://www.viahardware.com/faq/kt7/kt7faq.htm

I know it is an Abit faq but the methodology would be identical for your MSI
board. Let's put it this way... you can't hurt your bios chip anymore and
you won't kill the good bios chip unless your do it physical harm ie: snap
off a pin or something... but you wouldn't do that... you'll be real
careful!!!
Good Luck,
Robin

Jan Verschuere

I'm using my Son's computer because.....

by Jan Verschuere » Thu, 24 May 2001 18:41:33

CDRWin has an option to write a bootable CD-Rom, never tried it though.

Jan.
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