rec.autos.simulators

by **Byron Forbe** » Sun, 12 Dec 2004 04:28:13

> > Ruud said:
> > >>Although the comments about speed (which, as you well know, sux sox
> > nowadays, even if it's mainly due to server hardware and not RSC
> > admins)
> > and not being able to find stuff (a lot of files are still missing
> > after
> > months) did contain the odd grain of truth, as you well know.

> > In fact, I can't believe my eyes. Newsgroups better than the RSC
> > forum? If that was said in earnest, I'm just about speechless. The
> > sharing of ideas and files - even if some disappear occasionally - and
> > the community spirit is far better than what I find here. At least
> > from my perspective. How many car or track upgrades are posted here?
> > Or have I missed something? Mind you I don't come here often, but this
> > reminds me of why. And speed? Until just a few days ago, it took many
> > hours for posts to appear.

> > There are no moderators here and if I want to wish your pets a painful
> > death or insult people it's a free for all.
> > Ah wait, I think that I see now what the attraction is.

> > Bob Simpson

> Moderators are a double-edged sword, and have ruined many forum sites.
> There's pros and cons to both formats.

Took the words right out of my mouth. There's a lot of places moderated
by old women and you need to conduct yourself like an old woman to survive
them - killing yourself to live. Moderated forums are good places to send
the children, perhaps, but the grown-ups outa be around here - nothing like
the wild! :)

by **Uwe Schürkam** » Sun, 12 Dec 2004 05:00:58

Hi lesandbob,

this is the last time I am going to say sorry for a humorous post I
made in a good mood. sorry ;-)

Let's hope RSC will be back up soon, I do as much as the next guy.

uwe

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by **mcewen** » Sun, 12 Dec 2004 05:17:21

That works both ways ;)

by **mcewen** » Sun, 12 Dec 2004 07:15:24

Agreed.

I'm sorry if my statement of preference was taken as some sort of
denigration of the effort that the RSCers put into their site.
However It is possible to be appreciative and frustrated at the same
time.

For simple text explanations of situations and follow up
comments/conversations I personally find the threaded text format of
most newsgroup viewers such as outlook easier to follow then any web
based forum (rsc's threaded layout helped some).

I find it fairly easy to ignore entire ng threads about Eldreds weight
problems or GWB's manipulation of the weather etc.. and because of the
text nature of the ng each actually significant post generally isn't
greeted with 14 to 140 posts of rolling/dancing/bouncing smilies saying
nothing more then "thank you" or "me too", or "I love you guys" like
(all?) webforums generally are. Invariably 30 posts down the smiley
chain is a correction/addition to the original information that gets
lost in the dross (and generates more smilies).

Not being able to post pictures/files is of course a major drawback of
ngs.

RSC frustrates me sometimes in particular because I know the answer I'm
looking for is likely in there somewhere but I can't seem to formulate
a query that can find it first time(s), and I invariably wait only 179
seconds before I try my second attempt. I understand the resource
limitations behind minimum query lengths and delays between queries but
that's of course a direct result of setting up an independent volunteer
forum and then loading it full of useful info, you're a victim of your
own success. The distributed nature of ngs and the corporate backing
behind google's archives makes searching faster (at least for me).

The other frustration that is entirely beyond the control of the RSC
guys is that even though the league is called RAScar half the members
post schedule/venue/setup info here and the other half post it in the
rsc forum meaning I had to look both places to get the complete picture
;)

Art.

by **Michael R Sisso** » Sun, 12 Dec 2004 08:49:56

alt.binaries.simulators.autos is still there, last I checked (5 mins
ago). It has been abandoned by those Milliken(? Alldata?) warez'rs that
completely flooded the group with the auto repair car data disks that
cost thousands of dollars for honest shops to buy.

I don't know why it isn't used more often.

Hell, I'll use it now to post my absolutely-most-positively favorite
video ever. A 'vette blasting around Road Atlanta with no commentary,
just pure unfiltered incar sound. It is aural BLISS. Turn it up. Way up.

MRSisson
--
LOAD "GPL",8,1
RUN

by **Dave Er** » Sun, 12 Dec 2004 09:28:47

(snip)
alt.bin.sim.autos isn't much use if you're on one of the many ISP'ds that
don't carry the binary groups which are notorious storage hogs (to say
nothing of the complications of all the pron :) )

As others have mentioned both newsgroups and web forums have their virtues
and drawbacks. I use and appreciate both forms
DavErb

by **buste** » Sun, 12 Dec 2004 10:04:18

>>Thanks once again for your support.

>>Phil Lee

> ach c'mon phil, t'was a joke! I should have put more smileys into the
> post I guess. Sorry if anyone felt offended.

> All the best & thanks for RSC, mate.

> Uwe

You are the 2nd stupidest person here besides Eldred

by **Jan Verschuere** » Sun, 12 Dec 2004 10:10:29

2nd slowest, neither of them are any more stupid than you and I.

Jan. <vwg>
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by JP » Sun, 12 Dec 2004 11:22:56

...

> > > Ruud said:
> > > >>Although the comments about speed (which, as you well know, sux sox
> > > nowadays, even if it's mainly due to server hardware and not RSC
> > > admins)
> > > and not being able to find stuff (a lot of files are still missing
> > > after
> > > months) did contain the odd grain of truth, as you well know.

> > > In fact, I can't believe my eyes. Newsgroups better than the RSC
> > > forum? If that was said in earnest, I'm just about speechless. The
> > > sharing of ideas and files - even if some disappear occasionally - and
> > > the community spirit is far better than what I find here. At least
> > > from my perspective. How many car or track upgrades are posted here?
> > > Or have I missed something? Mind you I don't come here often, but
this
> > > reminds me of why. And speed? Until just a few days ago, it took
many
> > > hours for posts to appear.

> > > There are no moderators here and if I want to wish your pets a painful
> > > death or insult people it's a free for all.
> > > Ah wait, I think that I see now what the attraction is.

> > > Bob Simpson

> > Moderators are a double-edged sword, and have ruined many forum
sites.
> > There's pros and cons to both formats.

> Took the words right out of my mouth. There's a lot of places
moderated
> by old women and you need to conduct yourself like an old woman to survive
> them - killing yourself to live. Moderated forums are good places to send
> the children, perhaps, but the grown-ups outa be around here - nothing
like
> the wild! :)

Yep. Problem is, most moderated forums end up having some Napoleonic
complex minded clown being the moderator(s). Censorship is another word for
it.

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by **nrvsrec** » Mon, 13 Dec 2004 05:42:35

>> Thanks once again for your support.

>> Phil Lee

> ach c'mon phil, t'was a joke! I should have put more smileys into the
> post I guess. Sorry if anyone felt offended.

> All the best & thanks for RSC, mate.

> Uwe

> --
> Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/
> Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E)
> GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

He needs an animated " :wink: " before he figures it out. :) <- that's an
old-fashioned smiley btw

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by **Goy Larse** » Wed, 15 Dec 2004 06:45:28

> Yep. Problem is, most moderated forums end up having some Napoleonic
> complex minded clown being the moderator(s). Censorship is another word for
> it.

Hey, just because I lock a few threads and delete a few posts on The
Pits forums every now and then......

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"

http://www.theuspits.com

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--

by **Byron Forbe** » Wed, 15 Dec 2004 15:45:37

> > Yep. Problem is, most moderated forums end up having some Napoleonic
> > complex minded clown being the moderator(s). Censorship is another word
for
> > it.

> Hey, just because I lock a few threads and delete a few posts on The
> Pits forums every now and then......

LOL - I don't remember anyone mentioning the Pits Goy?

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