rec.autos.simulators

ntfs or fat 32

Ray

ntfs or fat 32

by Ray » Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:41:57

Hey,
 Just curious about ntfs or fat32. what is the best one to use for games
drive with xp os? 1 phsical hard drive partitioned into 2 drives. my c drive
is just os and other programs (ntfs). my D drive (games) is fat32. Just
wondering if i should convert it to ntfs. anyone? t.i.a.

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Cheers, Ray

Sting3

ntfs or fat 32

by Sting3 » Wed, 12 Nov 2003 01:05:40

only advantage for F32 is that you can see the drive and contents if you
have a winxx floppy (after 95v1 that is).  Drive tools that fix, or change
partitions, recover lost (deleted files) or older ones work on fat/fat 32.
Ones that fix NTFS are usually higher priced and or you need the newer
version.   I keep my storage drives in Fat32 for this reason, but the OS is
NTFS.  Still if XP goes***up, I wont as easily recover anything if I have
not backed it up recently, you know like email, favorites, setups...  with
fat32 I almost always able to put the boot disks in and at least copy the
stuff I needed to save off the drive, even if I just put the drive as a
slave into like the kids' computer.  Now since I have a computer at work, Im
hopping if XP bites the dust, I can slave it onto the work machine to poke
around the NTFS drive to copy stuff off.  plus about every couple of weeks I
zip things like addressbook, Outlooks email DBases, and my setups folder
from NR2003.

One other thing is I have successfully reinstalled XP over itself 1 time,
and lost nothing but 2 apps I had to reinstall, one was GPL the other was
ICQ and maybe Roger wilco/teamspeak?  everything else was fine, but then I
had to re-update the hell out of XP, and man, what a beech that is, over
dialup  :)



Ashley McConnel

ntfs or fat 32

by Ashley McConnel » Wed, 12 Nov 2003 01:09:23

You had to reinstall GPL?  Why so?  I didn't think it needed any registry
entries or anything - i've certainly just copied it over when I install a
new O/S.

Ash
http://www.siroccoracing.com

Sting3

ntfs or fat 32

by Sting3 » Wed, 12 Nov 2003 02:33:52

Ash,

Im not sure, seemed that it would boot and crash, so I "moved" the install I
already had to TEMP, then installed from CD, then deleted (via explorer) and
then moved Mine back.  Then it Ran fine.

On a second note, Here is a question for you!

I ran Vroc once in a while, then I probably haven't had time to do so, for
say 1 or 2 months (was working fine and this was long after recovery
reinstall XP, but might have been since the blaster updates and the xp
Service pack 1a?  not sure on my time frame...)    Anyway, I loaded WinVrock
up last week, try to join a game, crash to, well it took hard reset/endtask
to get out.  But even still, GPL runs fine stand alone...  haven't done
diddley that I know of for about 6 or seven months except a while back there
was a new Vroc something or other to be able to see the serverlists, and of
course the mirror/connection thing...  anyone or you had this happen before?

I could reinstall, try and find all the GPLEA cars, as I have NOT done any
of the scenery updates for any tracks yet.  Wish someone would put all the
most popular car-tracks & gfx stuff onto a CD, for me...  <wink>  dialup
sux.  if I get it all scoped out again I guess Ill try and make one.  But
right now not being able to WinVrock into any races kinda took the wind out
of doing anything of the sort.  Thank Gawd for NR2003 and PWF CTS addons..
:)


JumpKick feels gravityboun

ntfs or fat 32

by JumpKick feels gravityboun » Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:10:14



unless you also have win98 on your computer, you can safely go with NTFS

make sure you do backup your data from time to time as it's harder to
recover NTFS for reasons already mentioned

I love the way you don't have to run scandisk when you don't shut down
properly using NTFS

Haqsa

ntfs or fat 32

by Haqsa » Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:08:33

To get winvroc to run under XP I think you have to delete the riched.dll in
the winvroc directory.



TDRacin

ntfs or fat 32

by TDRacin » Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:15:51

Tell me what you want (with links), and I'll make and send you a CD, for
free.  You just have to find all the stuff, that way I have it to.      <g>



> Ash,

> Im not sure, seemed that it would boot and crash, so I "moved" the install
I
> already had to TEMP, then installed from CD, then deleted (via explorer)
and
> then moved Mine back.  Then it Ran fine.

> On a second note, Here is a question for you!

> I ran Vroc once in a while, then I probably haven't had time to do so, for
> say 1 or 2 months (was working fine and this was long after recovery
> reinstall XP, but might have been since the blaster updates and the xp
> Service pack 1a?  not sure on my time frame...)    Anyway, I loaded
WinVrock
> up last week, try to join a game, crash to, well it took hard
reset/endtask
> to get out.  But even still, GPL runs fine stand alone...  haven't done
> diddley that I know of for about 6 or seven months except a while back
there
> was a new Vroc something or other to be able to see the serverlists, and
of
> course the mirror/connection thing...  anyone or you had this happen
before?

> I could reinstall, try and find all the GPLEA cars, as I have NOT done any
> of the scenery updates for any tracks yet.  Wish someone would put all the
> most popular car-tracks & gfx stuff onto a CD, for me...  <wink>  dialup
> sux.  if I get it all scoped out again I guess Ill try and make one.  But
> right now not being able to WinVrock into any races kinda took the wind
out
> of doing anything of the sort.  Thank Gawd for NR2003 and PWF CTS addons..
> :)



> > > One other thing is I have successfully reinstalled XP over itself 1
> time,
> > > and lost nothing but 2 apps I had to reinstall, one was GPL the other
> was
> > > ICQ and maybe Roger wilco/teamspeak?  everything else was fine, but
then
> I
> > > had to re-update the hell out of XP, and man, what a beech that is,
over
> > > dialup  :)

> > You had to reinstall GPL?  Why so?  I didn't think it needed any
registry
> > entries or anything - i've certainly just copied it over when I install
a
> > new O/S.

> > Ash
> > http://www.siroccoracing.com

Jame

ntfs or fat 32

by Jame » Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:30:28

Hey there,

Fat32 is good for long writes to disk.  NTFS is good for short quick 'burst'
disk access.

I use Fat32 because I backup a lot of my sims, some up to 15gig in size, so
Fat32 performs better.  Plus I can see it all in 98 / 2000 and XP.

But I use NTFS for security reasons at work.  Still performs pretty good,
but is a little slower.

hope that helps,

James



Ray

ntfs or fat 32

by Ray » Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:51:44

thanks for the replies, ok, so what I'm hearing from you all is that fat32
is better for the games( better performance ie faster=good) and ntfs is more
stable but runs the games a bit slower=bad
cheers, ray.

> Hey there,

> Fat32 is good for long writes to disk.  NTFS is good for short quick
'burst'
> disk access.

> I use Fat32 because I backup a lot of my sims, some up to 15gig in size,
so
> Fat32 performs better.  Plus I can see it all in 98 / 2000 and XP.

> But I use NTFS for security reasons at work.  Still performs pretty good,
> but is a little slower.

> hope that helps,

> James



> > Hey,
> >  Just curious about ntfs or fat32. what is the best one to use for games
> > drive with xp os? 1 phsical hard drive partitioned into 2 drives. my c
> drive
> > is just os and other programs (ntfs). my D drive (games) is fat32. Just
> > wondering if i should convert it to ntfs. anyone? t.i.a.

> > --
> > Cheers, Ray

Andre

ntfs or fat 32

by Andre » Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:11:23



>thanks for the replies, ok, so what I'm hearing from you all is that fat32
>is better for the games( better performance ie faster=good) and ntfs is more
>stable but runs the games a bit slower=bad

Heavy emphasis on "bit" in "bit slower". The performance loss is
minimal compared to the stability of the filesystem. I wouldn't use
FAT32 any more.
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JTBur

ntfs or fat 32

by JTBur » Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:12:54

I'll second that.  The whole file system speed argument seems kind of dumb
to me.  The games I have never access the hard drive anyway except when
starting up, or loading a track. So when playing/driving, there is no speed
difference. CPU's and video cards are soooo much more important.

Todd




> >thanks for the replies, ok, so what I'm hearing from you all is that
fat32
> >is better for the games( better performance ie faster=good) and ntfs is
more
> >stable but runs the games a bit slower=bad

> Heavy emphasis on "bit" in "bit slower". The performance loss is
> minimal compared to the stability of the filesystem. I wouldn't use
> FAT32 any more.
> --

> Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards,
> please don't top post. Trim messages to quote only relevent text.
> Check groups.google.com before asking a question.

Dale Gree

ntfs or fat 32

by Dale Gree » Thu, 13 Nov 2003 05:37:59



This is exactly the case.  As long as you are an XP Pro admin you can slave
*any* NTFS drive (back to NT 4 in my experience) and read the contents.  I
do this routinely when saving client's systems.

The one exception is if you use Encrypted File System to protect files.  You
must have previously exported your keys to removable media and then install
the keys on the rescue machine... otherwise those files will  be unreadable.

BTW, Recovery Console on the XP CD had gotten me out of trouble countless
times.  It's super basic but you can get in and sometimes repair the
problem.

D.


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