rec.autos.simulators

> I see the game.  I think, what a hunk of junk.  The graphics look too
> arcadish.  It must be totaly arcade.  Thats not what I like
> I play the demo.  I think, this kicks ass.  I'm slidin, I'm grippin, I'm
> leavin my marks.  The presentation is just the best.  And it proves what
> it really looks like from inside an f1 car.  I wanna see more.
> I play the cracked version.  I usualy do before buying iffy purchaces.
> (I did with superbikes.  The next day I baught it.) This one I am happy
> I tried because, now there is no way in hell i'll buy it.  Here's the
> list of pros\and cons in this game.  And this is coming from a simmers
> mind.

> Pros
> - Nice presentation.  Menus, TV graphics,***pit, etc.  *unfortunatly
> this doesn't include the garage or the, 1\2 of an actual crew, pitcrew*
> - Runs nice and smooth.  Big thing in all games.
> - Tracks look very nice and seam realistic *with exception of few.  read
> on to see.*
> - Easy to set-up.
> - Pretty competive AI
> - All the car sounds.  From wind going over your helmet to the echo in
> monaco tunnel and under the crossover bridge in japan
> - Weather, espicaly rain.  Even has the little red lights on back of
> each car glowing.  Also the weather can change through the race.  And
> when it downpours, you'll know it when you can see only 20-30m infront
> of you.

> Cons
> - Cars look abit too rounded.
> - Damage model is almost non-existant.  Actualy its just that its very
> hard to damage the car, unlike real f1's.
> - Garage is very limited in options and tricky to work in.
> - Physic model, turn too easy, and maybe a bit to grippy.  forsure too
> grippy in rain.  (eg. that corner in hockenheim where your coming out of
> the forst in to the statium section.  I took it at 210km\h.  Didn't even
> take my foot of the gas.)
> - Virtual hands turn very slightly.  Not shure if this was tentional.
> - The track that is dear to the world has become a***job.  Yes,
> monaco.  The hill down to the first hairpin, is like a roller coaster
> ride.  There are hills every where, even on the starting straight, and
> i'm talking rather big hills.  Only thing that they got that most f1
> sims havnt, the proper run off lane and rumble strip only, in the
> chicane after the tunnel.
> - Graphics look arcadish\cartoony.

> overall there is more downside to the ups.  It was worth the time to try
> it, since now I know not to buy it.  hmm, that rhymes.

> DjFIL

> <my racing leagues>
> sbk.iwarp.com
> gp500.iwarp.com

> I see the game.  I think, what a hunk of junk.  The graphics look too
> arcadish.  It must be totaly arcade.  Thats not what I like
> I play the demo.  I think, this kicks ass.  I'm slidin, I'm grippin, I'm
> leavin my marks.  The presentation is just the best.  And it proves what
> it really looks like from inside an f1 car.  I wanna see more.
> I play the cracked version.  I usualy do before buying iffy purchaces.
> (I did with superbikes.  The next day I baught it.) This one I am happy
> I tried because, now there is no way in hell i'll buy it.  Here's the
> list of pros\and cons in this game.  And this is coming from a simmers
> mind.

> Pros
> - Nice presentation.  Menus, TV graphics,***pit, etc.  *unfortunatly
> this doesn't include the garage or the, 1\2 of an actual crew, pitcrew*
> - Runs nice and smooth.  Big thing in all games.
> - Tracks look very nice and seam realistic *with exception of few.  read
> on to see.*
> - Easy to set-up.
> - Pretty competive AI
> - All the car sounds.  From wind going over your helmet to the echo in
> monaco tunnel and under the crossover bridge in japan
> - Weather, espicaly rain.  Even has the little red lights on back of
> each car glowing.  Also the weather can change through the race.  And
> when it downpours, you'll know it when you can see only 20-30m infront
> of you.

> Cons
> - Cars look abit too rounded.
> - Damage model is almost non-existant.  Actualy its just that its very
> hard to damage the car, unlike real f1's.
> - Garage is very limited in options and tricky to work in.
> - Physic model, turn too easy, and maybe a bit to grippy.  forsure too
> grippy in rain.  (eg. that corner in hockenheim where your coming out of
> the forst in to the statium section.  I took it at 210km\h.  Didn't even
> take my foot of the gas.)
> - Virtual hands turn very slightly.  Not shure if this was tentional.
> - The track that is dear to the world has become a***job.  Yes,
> monaco.  The hill down to the first hairpin, is like a roller coaster
> ride.  There are hills every where, even on the starting straight, and
> i'm talking rather big hills.  Only thing that they got that most f1
> sims havnt, the proper run off lane and rumble strip only, in the
> chicane after the tunnel.
> - Graphics look arcadish\cartoony.

> overall there is more downside to the ups.  It was worth the time to try
> it, since now I know not to buy it.  hmm, that rhymes.

> DjFIL

> <my racing leagues>
> sbk.iwarp.com
> gp500.iwarp.com

> As said, "watch the helicopter view", I never was in full race before and
> couldn't get the option.  But I now just watched it.  It actualy is very
> convinsing.  And I now believe that it is nearly right.  But, I still have 1
> problem with the monaco circut in this game.  Is the hill down to the first
> hairpin really like that.  In every other game I played (GPL, F1RS, MGPRS,
> GP2, etc) the hill was never like that.  If any one could get me a pic of
> this part of the track and proove that it is like that, or not like that,
> I'd be very apreciative.  It is the box version I've got.  I'm gonna try and
> install patches.  You never know what will work.  And no game out there
> needs a manual.  With every game I play, I rarely read the manual.  Only
> when I get bored and for help to setup the vehicle, I read.  I'm gonna go by
> each track. with my comments.

> Australia - Practicaly Flawless.  I like the mock Fosters ad "Formula 1".
> Brazil - Is it really that flat?  I remeber a pretty big hill going down
> after turn 1.  I never noticed that here.
> Argentina - I don't know much of this circut, so i'll hold back my
> comments.  Looks nice tho.
> San Marino - Practicaly Flawless.
> Spain - Practicaly Flawless.
> Monaco - As said, I'm now just not shure about the hill down to the first
> hairpin.  Maybe behindu1 could reply to this one since he's been there.
> Canada - Practicaly Flawless.  I like the mock adds.  "Moose Fly(Molson Dry)
> and Drivers(Players)"
> France - Practicaly Flawless.
> England - Practicaly Flawless.
> Austria - I still think Milestone SRL (EAsports) on Superbike did a better
> version.  I think its missing a sweeping drop.  You know where I am talking
> about.
> Germany - Does the track really go that wide before you come in to the
> stadium section.  I know its a drag strip, but is it really that wide?  And
> inside the stadium section, the left\right turns.  Isn't it a bit hilly
> there.  Like in Superbikes.
> Hungary - Practicaly Flawless.
> Belgum - Flawless.  Best version I've ever seen of this great and historic
> track.
> Italy - Practicaly Flawless.  Really nice, but I think the one in Superbike
> is very accurate.
> Luxemburg - Practicaly Flawless.  Nice job on that banked corner.  And the
> mock add of warsteiner, game players, is an ok one.  It doesn't exactly
> fit.  Like F1, Drivers or Moose Fly did.
> Japan - First track I played, because it was in the demo.  And again
> practicaly flawless.

> Now each aspect of the game:

> Cars - Do they really handle like that?  Do the breaks actualy lock up that
> easily?  thing i noticed, even AI of M. Schumacher was locking it up
> constantly.  As we all know, the damage model is shit.
> Cameras - This is what I like the most about the game.  The driver camera,
> when you play from this view you can actualy tell, this is how it looks from
> inside an F1 car.  All the cameras are very well placed and have a very good
> motion system.
> Qualifying - We know the problem here.  3 laps stright?  I thaught it was up
> to 12 laps in a 1 hour period.
> AI's - They suck.  It was hell going through the first turn at spa.  I got
> hit left, right and center.  It seams as they are very unaware of their
> surroundings.  But can be very competive, in case of lap times, and
> sometimes in passing.
> Menus - not to bad.
> Garage - you know it sucks.
> Presentation - Finaly some one gets the F1 TV graphics right.
> Sounds - Supurb.  Engines, echos, wind, rain.  Its all good.
> Weather - The best i've ever seen.  and unlike in CPR, the rain isnt in the
> tunnels.  Stupid Mircosoft.
> Graphics - Personaly, I'm starting to like these arcadish graphics.  It
> shows you its only a game, but the feel shows somewhat different.
> Controll - Breaks are my problem.  I barely touch the break, like only
> 25-50% and the tires lock up.  But what I think seams realistic is that you
> really have to work the car in this game.  Like what you see the drivers on
> tv doing.

> any way.  If anyone would like to confront me and my comments.  Do so in the
> proper manner.  Reply to this newsgroup, and if possiable to

> DjFIL

> > Here's the story.

> > I see the game.  I think, what a hunk of junk.  The graphics look too
> > arcadish.  It must be totaly arcade.  Thats not what I like
> > I play the demo.  I think, this kicks ass.  I'm slidin, I'm grippin, I'm
> > leavin my marks.  The presentation is just the best.  And it proves what
> > it really looks like from inside an f1 car.  I wanna see more.
> > I play the cracked version.  I usualy do before buying iffy purchaces.
> > (I did with superbikes.  The next day I baught it.) This one I am happy
> > I tried because, now there is no way in hell i'll buy it.  Here's the
> > list of pros\and cons in this game.  And this is coming from a simmers
> > mind.

> > Pros
> > - Nice presentation.  Menus, TV graphics,***pit, etc.  *unfortunatly
> > this doesn't include the garage or the, 1\2 of an actual crew, pitcrew*
> > - Runs nice and smooth.  Big thing in all games.
> > - Tracks look very nice and seam realistic *with exception of few.  read
> > on to see.*
> > - Easy to set-up.
> > - Pretty competive AI
> > - All the car sounds.  From wind going over your helmet to the echo in
> > monaco tunnel and under the crossover bridge in japan
> > - Weather, espicaly rain.  Even has the little red lights on back of
> > each car glowing.  Also the weather can change through the race.  And
> > when it downpours, you'll know it when you can see only 20-30m infront
> > of you.

> > Cons
> > - Cars look abit too rounded.
> > - Damage model is almost non-existant.  Actualy its just that its very
> > hard to damage the car, unlike real f1's.
> > - Garage is very limited in options and tricky to work in.
> > - Physic model, turn too easy, and maybe a bit to grippy.  forsure too
> > grippy in rain.  (eg. that corner in hockenheim where your coming out of
> > the forst in to the statium section.  I took it at 210km\h.  Didn't even
> > take my foot of the gas.)
> > - Virtual hands turn very slightly.  Not shure if this was tentional.
> > - The track that is dear to the world has become a***job.  Yes,
> > monaco.  The hill down to the first hairpin, is like a roller coaster
> > ride.  There are hills every where, even on the starting straight, and
> > i'm talking rather big hills.  Only thing that they got that most f1
> > sims havnt, the proper run off lane and rumble strip only, in the
> > chicane after the tunnel.
> > - Graphics look arcadish\cartoony.

> > overall there is more downside to the ups.  It was worth the time to try
> > it, since now I know not to buy it.  hmm, that rhymes.

> > DjFIL

> > <my racing leagues>
> > sbk.iwarp.com
> > gp500.iwarp.com

> Since you don't need a manual it most be ok to steal the game.  Can't wait for
> your followup comments.  "This game rocks, I recommend everyone rush out and
> lift a copy!",  "A must steal!", "Not worth the risk of a GPL, but only if
> you're sure you won't get caught it's highly recommended!"

> Let me explain something here DEMO ==  EVALUATION.  Hence the term DEMO or
> DEMONSTRATOIN version.

> -Andrew

> DjFIL wrote:

> > Note: I'd like to revoke most of my comments and this is my new set of
> > comments.

> > As said, "watch the helicopter view", I never was in full race before and
> > couldn't get the option.  But I now just watched it.  It actualy is very
> > convinsing.  And I now believe that it is nearly right.  But, I still have 1
> > problem with the monaco circut in this game.  Is the hill down to the first
> > hairpin really like that.  In every other game I played (GPL, F1RS, MGPRS,
> > GP2, etc) the hill was never like that.  If any one could get me a pic of
> > this part of the track and proove that it is like that, or not like that,
> > I'd be very apreciative.  It is the box version I've got.  I'm gonna try and
> > install patches.  You never know what will work.  And no game out there
> > needs a manual.  With every game I play, I rarely read the manual.  Only
> > when I get bored and for help to setup the vehicle, I read.  I'm gonna go by
> > each track. with my comments.

> > Australia - Practicaly Flawless.  I like the mock Fosters ad "Formula 1".
> > Brazil - Is it really that flat?  I remeber a pretty big hill going down
> > after turn 1.  I never noticed that here.
> > Argentina - I don't know much of this circut, so i'll hold back my
> > comments.  Looks nice tho.
> > San Marino - Practicaly Flawless.
> > Spain - Practicaly Flawless.
> > Monaco - As said, I'm now just not shure about the hill down to the first
> > hairpin.  Maybe behindu1 could reply to this one since he's been there.
> > Canada - Practicaly Flawless.  I like the mock adds.  "Moose Fly(Molson Dry)
> > and Drivers(Players)"
> > France - Practicaly Flawless.
> > England - Practicaly Flawless.
> > Austria - I still think Milestone SRL (EAsports) on Superbike did a better
> > version.  I think its missing a sweeping drop.  You know where I am talking
> > about.
> > Germany - Does the track really go that wide before you come in to the
> > stadium section.  I know its a drag strip, but is it really that wide?  And
> > inside the stadium section, the left\right turns.  Isn't it a bit hilly
> > there.  Like in Superbikes.
> > Hungary - Practicaly Flawless.
> > Belgum - Flawless.  Best version I've ever seen of this great and historic
> > track.
> > Italy - Practicaly Flawless.  Really nice, but I think the one in Superbike
> > is very accurate.
> > Luxemburg - Practicaly Flawless.  Nice job on that banked corner.  And the
> > mock add of warsteiner, game players, is an ok one.  It doesn't exactly
> > fit.  Like F1, Drivers or Moose Fly did.
> > Japan - First track I played, because it was in the demo.  And again
> > practicaly flawless.

> > Now each aspect of the game:

> > Cars - Do they really handle like that?  Do the breaks actualy lock up that
> > easily?  thing i noticed, even AI of M. Schumacher was locking it up
> > constantly.  As we all know, the damage model is shit.
> > Cameras - This is what I like the most about the game.  The driver camera,
> > when you play from this view you can actualy tell, this is how it looks from
> > inside an F1 car.  All the cameras are very well placed and have a very good
> > motion system.
> > Qualifying - We know the problem here.  3 laps stright?  I thaught it was up
> > to 12 laps in a 1 hour period.
> > AI's - They suck.  It was hell going through the first turn at spa.  I got
> > hit left, right and center.  It seams as they are very unaware of their
> > surroundings.  But can be very competive, in case of lap times, and
> > sometimes in passing.
> > Menus - not to bad.
> > Garage - you know it sucks.
> > Presentation - Finaly some one gets the F1 TV graphics right.
> > Sounds - Supurb.  Engines, echos, wind, rain.  Its all good.
> > Weather - The best i've ever seen.  and unlike in CPR, the rain isnt in the
> > tunnels.  Stupid Mircosoft.
> > Graphics - Personaly, I'm starting to like these arcadish graphics.  It
> > shows you its only a game, but the feel shows somewhat different.
> > Controll - Breaks are my problem.  I barely touch the break, like only
> > 25-50% and the tires lock up.  But what I think seams realistic is that you
> > really have to work the car in this game.  Like what you see the drivers on
> > tv doing.

> > any way.  If anyone would like to confront me and my comments.  Do so in the
> > proper manner.  Reply to this newsgroup, and if possiable to
> > dj...@idmail.com.

> > DjFIL

> > DjFIL wrote:

> > > Here's the story.

> > > I see the game.  I think, what a hunk of junk.  The graphics look too
> > > arcadish.  It must be totaly arcade.  Thats not what I like
> > > I play the demo.  I think, this kicks ass.  I'm slidin, I'm grippin, I'm
> > > leavin my marks.  The presentation is just the best.  And it proves what
> > > it really looks like from inside an f1 car.  I wanna see more.
> > > I play the cracked version.  I usualy do before buying iffy purchaces.
> > > (I did with superbikes.  The next day I baught it.) This one I am happy
> > > I tried because, now there is no way in hell i'll buy it.  Here's the
> > > list of pros\and cons in this game.  And this is coming from a simmers
> > > mind.

> > > Pros
> > > - Nice presentation.  Menus, TV graphics, cockpit, etc.  *unfortunatly
> > > this doesn't include the garage or the, 1\2 of an actual crew, pitcrew*
> > > - Runs nice and smooth.  Big thing in all games.
> > > - Tracks look very nice and seam realistic *with exception of few.  read
> > > on to see.*
> > > - Easy to set-up.
> > > - Pretty competive AI
> > > - All the car sounds.  From wind going over your helmet to the echo in
> > > monaco tunnel and under the crossover bridge in japan
> > > - Weather, espicaly rain.  Even has the little red lights on back of
> > > each car glowing.  Also the weather can change through the race.  And
> > > when it downpours, you'll know it when you can see only 20-30m infront
> > > of you.

> > > Cons
> > > - Cars look abit too rounded.
> > > - Damage model is almost non-existant.  Actualy its just that its very
> > > hard to damage the car, unlike real f1's.
> > > - Garage is very limited in options and tricky to work in.
> > > - Physic model, turn too easy, and maybe a bit to grippy.  forsure too
> > > grippy in rain.  (eg. that corner in hockenheim where your coming out of
> > > the forst in to the statium section.  I took it at 210km\h.  Didn't even
> > > take my foot of the gas.)
> > > - Virtual hands turn very slightly.  Not shure if this was tentional.
> > > - The track that is dear to the world has become a screw job.  Yes,
> > > monaco.  The hill down to the first hairpin, is like a roller coaster
> > > ride.  There are hills every where, even on the starting straight, and
> > > i'm talking rather big hills.  Only thing that they got that most f1
> > > sims havnt, the proper run off lane and rumble strip only, in the
> > > chicane after the tunnel.
> > > - Graphics look arcadish\cartoony.

> > > overall there is more downside to the ups.  It was worth the time to try
> > > it, since now I know not to buy it.  hmm, that rhymes.

> > > DjFIL

> > > <my racing leagues>
> > > sbk.iwarp.com
> > > gp500.iwarp.com

> Since you don't need a manual it most be ok to steal the game.  Can't wait
for
> your followup comments.  "This game rocks, I recommend everyone rush out
and
> lift a copy!",  "A must steal!", "Not worth the risk of a GPL, but only if
> you're sure you won't get caught it's highly recommended!"

> Let me explain something here DEMO ==  EVALUATION.  Hence the term DEMO or
> DEMONSTRATOIN version.

> -Andrew

> DjFIL wrote:

> > Note: I'd like to revoke most of my comments and this is my new set of
> > comments.

> > As said, "watch the helicopter view", I never was in full race before
and
> > couldn't get the option.  But I now just watched it.  It actualy is very
> > convinsing.  And I now believe that it is nearly right.  But, I still
have 1
> > problem with the monaco circut in this game.  Is the hill down to the
first
> > hairpin really like that.  In every other game I played (GPL, F1RS,
MGPRS,
> > GP2, etc) the hill was never like that.  If any one could get me a pic
of
> > this part of the track and proove that it is like that, or not like
that,
> > I'd be very apreciative.  It is the box version I've got.  I'm gonna try
and
> > install patches.  You never know what will work.  And no game out there
> > needs a manual.  With every game I play, I rarely read the manual.  Only
> > when I get bored and for help to setup the vehicle, I read.  I'm gonna
go by
> > each track. with my comments.

> > Australia - Practicaly Flawless.  I like the mock Fosters ad "Formula
1".
> > Brazil - Is it really that flat?  I remeber a pretty big hill going down
> > after turn 1.  I never noticed that here.
> > Argentina - I don't know much of this circut, so i'll hold back my
> > comments.  Looks nice tho.
> > San Marino - Practicaly Flawless.
> > Spain - Practicaly Flawless.
> > Monaco - As said, I'm now just not shure about the hill down to the
first
> > hairpin.  Maybe behindu1 could reply to this one since he's been there.
> > Canada - Practicaly Flawless.  I like the mock adds.  "Moose Fly(Molson
Dry)
> > and Drivers(Players)"
> > France - Practicaly Flawless.
> > England - Practicaly Flawless.
> > Austria - I still think Milestone SRL (EAsports) on Superbike did a
better
> > version.  I think its missing a sweeping drop.  You know where I am
talking
> > about.
> > Germany - Does the track really go that wide before you come in to the
> > stadium section.  I know its a drag strip, but is it really that wide?
And
> > inside the stadium section, the left\right turns.  Isn't it a bit hilly
> > there.  Like in Superbikes.
> > Hungary - Practicaly Flawless.
> > Belgum - Flawless.  Best version I've ever seen of this great and
historic
> > track.
> > Italy - Practicaly Flawless.  Really nice, but I think the one in
Superbike
> > is very accurate.
> > Luxemburg - Practicaly Flawless.  Nice job on that banked corner.  And
the
> > mock add of warsteiner, game players, is an ok one.  It doesn't exactly
> > fit.  Like F1, Drivers or Moose Fly did.
> > Japan - First track I played, because it was in the demo.  And again
> > practicaly flawless.

> > Now each aspect of the game:

> > Cars - Do they really handle like that?  Do the breaks actualy lock up
that
> > easily?  thing i noticed, even AI of M. Schumacher was locking it up
> > constantly.  As we all know, the damage model is shit.
> > Cameras - This is what I like the most about the game.  The driver
camera,
> > when you play from this view you can actualy tell, this is how it looks
from
> > inside an F1 car.  All the cameras are very well placed and have a very
good
> > motion system.
> > Qualifying - We know the problem here.  3 laps stright?  I thaught it
was up
> > to 12 laps in a 1 hour period.
> > AI's - They suck.  It was hell going through the first turn at spa.  I
got
> > hit left, right and center.  It seams as they are very unaware of their
> > surroundings.  But can be very competive, in case of lap times, and
> > sometimes in passing.
> > Menus - not to bad.
> > Garage - you know it sucks.
> > Presentation - Finaly some one gets the F1 TV graphics right.
> > Sounds - Supurb.  Engines, echos, wind, rain.  Its all good.
> > Weather - The best i've ever seen.  and unlike in CPR, the rain isnt in
the
> > tunnels.  Stupid Mircosoft.
> > Graphics - Personaly, I'm starting to like these arcadish graphics.  It
> > shows you its only a game, but the feel shows somewhat different.
> > Controll - Breaks are my problem.  I barely touch the break, like only
> > 25-50% and the tires lock up.  But what I think seams realistic is that
you
> > really have to work the car in this game.  Like what you see the drivers
on
> > tv doing.

> > any way.  If anyone would like to confront me and my comments.  Do so in
the
> > proper manner.  Reply to this newsgroup, and if possiable to
> > dj...@idmail.com.

> > DjFIL

> > DjFIL wrote:

> > > Here's the story.

> > > I see the game.  I think, what a hunk of junk.  The graphics look too
> > > arcadish.  It must be totaly arcade.  Thats not what I like
> > > I play the demo.  I think, this kicks ass.  I'm slidin, I'm grippin,
I'm
> > > leavin my marks.  The presentation is just the best.  And it proves
what
> > > it really looks like from inside an f1 car.  I wanna see more.
> > > I play the cracked version.  I usualy do before buying iffy purchaces.
> > > (I did with superbikes.  The next day I baught it.) This one I am
happy
> > > I tried because, now there is no way in hell i'll buy it.  Here's the
> > > list of pros\and cons in this game.  And this is coming from a simmers
> > > mind.

> > > Pros
> > > - Nice presentation.  Menus, TV graphics, cockpit, etc.  *unfortunatly
> > > this doesn't include the garage or the, 1\2 of an actual crew,
pitcrew*
> > > - Runs nice and smooth.  Big thing in all games.
> > > - Tracks look very nice and seam realistic *with exception of few.
read
> > > on to see.*
> > > - Easy to set-up.
> > > - Pretty competive AI
> > > - All the car sounds.  From wind going over your helmet to the echo in
> > > monaco tunnel and under the crossover bridge in japan
> > > - Weather, espicaly rain.  Even has the little red lights on back of
> > > each car glowing.  Also the weather can change through the race.  And
> > > when it downpours, you'll know it when you can see only 20-30m infront
> > > of you.

> > > Cons
> > > - Cars look abit too rounded.
> > > - Damage model is almost non-existant.  Actualy its just that its very
> > > hard to damage the car, unlike real f1's.
> > > - Garage is very limited in options and tricky to work in.
> > > - Physic model, turn too easy, and maybe a bit to grippy.  forsure too
> > > grippy in rain.  (eg. that corner in hockenheim where your coming out
of
> > > the forst in to the statium section.  I took it at 210km\h.  Didn't
even
> > > take my foot of the gas.)
> > > - Virtual hands turn very slightly.  Not shure if this was tentional.
> > > - The track that is dear to the world has become a screw job.  Yes,
> > > monaco.  The hill down to the first hairpin, is like a roller coaster
> > > ride.  There are hills every where, even on the starting straight, and
> > > i'm talking rather big hills.  Only thing that they got that most f1
> > > sims havnt, the proper run off lane and rumble strip only, in the
> > > chicane after the tunnel.
> > > - Graphics look arcadish\cartoony.

> > > overall there is more downside to the ups.  It was worth the time to
try
> > > it, since now I know not to buy it.  hmm, that rhymes.

> > > DjFIL

> > > <my racing leagues>
> > > sbk.iwarp.com
> > > gp500.iwarp.com

> DjFIL

> Schumacher

> AndrewS <andrew32-nos...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:37B37821.5D436D02@bellsouth.net...
> > >> And no game out there needs a manual.  With every game I play, I rarely
> read
> > the manual.
> > >> Only when I get bored and for help to setup the vehicle, I read.  I'm
> gonna
> > go by
> > >> each track. with my comments.

> > Since you don't need a manual it most be ok to steal the game.  Can't wait
> for
> > your followup comments.  "This game rocks, I recommend everyone rush out
> and
> > lift a copy!",  "A must steal!", "Not worth the risk of a GPL, but only if
> > you're sure you won't get caught it's highly recommended!"

> > Let me explain something here DEMO ==  EVALUATION.  Hence the term DEMO or
> > DEMONSTRATOIN version.

> > -Andrew

> > DjFIL wrote:

> > > Note: I'd like to revoke most of my comments and this is my new set of
> > > comments.

> > > As said, "watch the helicopter view", I never was in full race before
> and
> > > couldn't get the option.  But I now just watched it.  It actualy is very
> > > convinsing.  And I now believe that it is nearly right.  But, I still
> have 1
> > > problem with the monaco circut in this game.  Is the hill down to the
> first
> > > hairpin really like that.  In every other game I played (GPL, F1RS,
> MGPRS,
> > > GP2, etc) the hill was never like that.  If any one could get me a pic
> of
> > > this part of the track and proove that it is like that, or not like
> that,
> > > I'd be very apreciative.  It is the box version I've got.  I'm gonna try
> and
> > > install patches.  You never know what will work.  And no game out there
> > > needs a manual.  With every game I play, I rarely read the manual.  Only
> > > when I get bored and for help to setup the vehicle, I read.  I'm gonna
> go by
> > > each track. with my comments.

> > > Australia - Practicaly Flawless.  I like the mock Fosters ad "Formula
> 1".
> > > Brazil - Is it really that flat?  I remeber a pretty big hill going down
> > > after turn 1.  I never noticed that here.
> > > Argentina - I don't know much of this circut, so i'll hold back my
> > > comments.  Looks nice tho.
> > > San Marino - Practicaly Flawless.
> > > Spain - Practicaly Flawless.
> > > Monaco - As said, I'm now just not shure about the hill down to the
> first
> > > hairpin.  Maybe behindu1 could reply to this one since he's been there.
> > > Canada - Practicaly Flawless.  I like the mock adds.  "Moose Fly(Molson
> Dry)
> > > and Drivers(Players)"
> > > France - Practicaly Flawless.
> > > England - Practicaly Flawless.
> > > Austria - I still think Milestone SRL (EAsports) on Superbike did a
> better
> > > version.  I think its missing a sweeping drop.  You know where I am
> talking
> > > about.
> > > Germany - Does the track really go that wide before you come in to the
> > > stadium section.  I know its a drag strip, but is it really that wide?
> And
> > > inside the stadium section, the left\right turns.  Isn't it a bit hilly
> > > there.  Like in Superbikes.
> > > Hungary - Practicaly Flawless.
> > > Belgum - Flawless.  Best version I've ever seen of this great and
> historic
> > > track.
> > > Italy - Practicaly Flawless.  Really nice, but I think the one in
> Superbike
> > > is very accurate.
> > > Luxemburg - Practicaly Flawless.  Nice job on that banked corner.  And
> the
> > > mock add of warsteiner, game players, is an ok one.  It doesn't exactly
> > > fit.  Like F1, Drivers or Moose Fly did.
> > > Japan - First track I played, because it was in the demo.  And again
> > > practicaly flawless.

> > > Now each aspect of the game:

> > > Cars - Do they really handle like that?  Do the breaks actualy lock up
> that
> > > easily?  thing i noticed, even AI of M. Schumacher was locking it up
> > > constantly.  As we all know, the damage model is shit.
> > > Cameras - This is what I like the most about the game.  The driver
> camera,
> > > when you play from this view you can actualy tell, this is how it looks
> from
> > > inside an F1 car.  All the cameras are very well placed and have a very
> good
> > > motion system.
> > > Qualifying - We know the problem here.  3 laps stright?  I thaught it
> was up
> > > to 12 laps in a 1 hour period.
> > > AI's - They suck.  It was hell going through the first turn at spa.  I
> got
> > > hit left, right and center.  It seams as they are very unaware of their
> > > surroundings.  But can be very competive, in case of lap times, and
> > > sometimes in passing.
> > > Menus - not to bad.
> > > Garage - you know it sucks.
> > > Presentation - Finaly some one gets the F1 TV graphics right.
> > > Sounds - Supurb.  Engines, echos, wind, rain.  Its all good.
> > > Weather - The best i've ever seen.  and unlike in CPR, the rain isnt in
> the
> > > tunnels.  Stupid Mircosoft.
> > > Graphics - Personaly, I'm starting to like these arcadish graphics.  It
> > > shows you its only a game, but the feel shows somewhat different.
> > > Controll - Breaks are my problem.  I barely touch the break, like only
> > > 25-50% and the tires lock up.  But what I think seams realistic is that
> you
> > > really have to work the car in this game.  Like what you see the drivers
> on
> > > tv doing.

> > > any way.  If anyone would like to confront me and my comments.  Do so in
> the
> > > proper manner.  Reply to this newsgroup, and if possiable to
> > > dj...@idmail.com.

> > > DjFIL

> > > DjFIL wrote:

> > > > Here's the story.

> > > > I see the game.  I think, what a hunk of junk.  The graphics look too
> > > > arcadish.  It must be totaly arcade.  Thats not what I like
> > > > I play the demo.  I think, this kicks ass.  I'm slidin, I'm grippin,
> I'm
> > > > leavin my marks.  The presentation is just the best.  And it proves
> what
> > > > it really looks like from inside an f1 car.  I wanna see more.
> > > > I play the cracked version.  I usualy do before buying iffy purchaces.
> > > > (I did with superbikes.  The next day I baught it.) This one I am
> happy
> > > > I tried because, now there is no way in hell i'll buy it.  Here's the
> > > > list of pros\and cons in this game.  And this is coming from a simmers
> > > > mind.

> > > > Pros
> > > > - Nice presentation.  Menus, TV graphics, cockpit, etc.  *unfortunatly
> > > > this doesn't include the garage or the, 1\2 of an actual crew,
> pitcrew*
> > > > - Runs nice and smooth.  Big thing in all games.
> > > > - Tracks look very nice and seam realistic *with exception of few.
> read
> > > > on to see.*
> > > > - Easy to set-up.
> > > > - Pretty competive AI
> > > > - All the car sounds.  From wind going over your helmet to the echo in
> > > > monaco tunnel and under the crossover bridge in japan
> > > > - Weather, espicaly rain.  Even has the little red lights on back of
> > > > each car glowing.  Also the weather can change through the race.  And
> > > > when it downpours, you'll know it when you can see only 20-30m infront
> > > > of you.

> > > > Cons
> > > > - Cars look abit too rounded.
> > > > - Damage model is almost non-existant.  Actualy its just that its very
> > > > hard to damage the car, unlike real f1's.
> > > > - Garage is very limited in options and tricky to work in.
> > > > - Physic model, turn too easy, and maybe a bit to grippy.  forsure too
> > > > grippy in rain.  (eg. that corner in hockenheim where your coming out
> of
> > > > the forst in to the statium section.  I took it at 210km\h.  Didn't
> even
> > > > take my foot of the gas.)
> > > > - Virtual hands turn very slightly.  Not shure if this was tentional.
> > > > - The track that is dear to the world has become a screw job.  Yes,
> > > > monaco.  The hill down to the first hairpin, is like a roller coaster
> > > > ride.  There are hills every where, even on the starting straight, and
> > > > i'm talking rather big hills.  Only thing that they got that most f1
> > > > sims havnt, the proper run off lane and rumble strip only, in the
> > > > chicane after the tunnel.
> > > > - Graphics look arcadish\cartoony.

> > > > overall there is more downside to the ups.  It was worth the time to
> try
> > > > it, since now I know not to buy it.  hmm, that rhymes.

> > > > DjFIL

> > > > <my racing leagues>
> > > > sbk.iwarp.com
> > > > gp500.iwarp.com

> > don't show enough.  This is my personal thaughts and saying.
> > Warez.  Use them, but dont abuse them.  Otherwise use them for 1 time occurances,
> > extended evaluation (Sbk is a good example where this was neccary).  But don't just
> > download them and keep them.  If I respect\enjoy the software enough, you'll see me
> > in the stores buying a copy.  If not, it'll hit my recycle bin.  My next question
> > is, is there any smart comments\questions out there?

> > DjFIL

> That's a great philosophy.  If I ever get pulled over for speeding I'll have to try it
> out.  "Officer, I know I was speeding but I was trying out the road.  I only did it for
> an hour, so you can't give me a ticket!"  If you're going to break the law, then break
> the law.  Don't *** around with something as vague as a time limit.

> Piracy is piracy, *** is ***, etc, etc.  On the other hand, I've never been to
> Canada.  Maybe things are different there.

> -Andrew

> DjFIL

> > > don't show enough.  This is my personal thaughts and saying.
> > > Warez.  Use them, but dont abuse them.  Otherwise use them for 1 time occurances,
> > > extended evaluation (Sbk is a good example where this was neccary).  But don't just
> > > download them and keep them.  If I respect\enjoy the software enough, you'll see me
> > > in the stores buying a copy.  If not, it'll hit my recycle bin.  My next question
> > > is, is there any smart comments\questions out there?

> > > DjFIL

> > That's a great philosophy.  If I ever get pulled over for speeding I'll have to try it
> > out.  "Officer, I know I was speeding but I was trying out the road.  I only did it for
> > an hour, so you can't give me a ticket!"  If you're going to break the law, then break
> > the law.  Don't *** around with something as vague as a time limit.

> > Piracy is piracy, *** is ***, etc, etc.  On the other hand, I've never been to
> > Canada.  Maybe things are different there.

> > -Andrew

> DjFIL

> > > don't show enough.  This is my personal thaughts and saying.
> > > Warez.  Use them, but dont abuse them.  Otherwise use them for 1 time occurances,
> > > extended evaluation (Sbk is a good example where this was neccary).  But don't just
> > > download them and keep them.  If I respect\enjoy the software enough, you'll see me
> > > in the stores buying a copy.  If not, it'll hit my recycle bin.  My next question
> > > is, is there any smart comments\questions out there?

> > > DjFIL

> > That's a great philosophy.  If I ever get pulled over for speeding I'll have to try it
> > out.  "Officer, I know I was speeding but I was trying out the road.  I only did it for
> > an hour, so you can't give me a ticket!"  If you're going to break the law, then break
> > the law.  Don't *** around with something as vague as a time limit.

> > Piracy is piracy, *** is ***, etc, etc.  On the other hand, I've never been to
> > Canada.  Maybe things are different there.

> > -Andrew

>> don't show enough.  This is my personal thaughts and saying.
>> Warez.  Use them, but dont abuse them.  Otherwise use them for 1 time
>occurances,
>> extended evaluation (Sbk is a good example where this was neccary).  But
>don't just
>> download them and keep them.  If I respect\enjoy the software enough,
>you'll see me
>> in the stores buying a copy.  If not, it'll hit my recycle bin.  My next
>question
>> is, is there any smart comments\questions out there?

>> DjFIL

>That's a great philosophy.  If I ever get pulled over for speeding I'll have
>to try it
>out.  "Officer, I know I was speeding but I was trying out the road.  I only
>did it for
>an hour, so you can't give me a ticket!"  If you're going to break the law,
>then break
>the law.  Don't *** around with something as vague as a time limit.

>Piracy is piracy, *** is ***, etc, etc.  On the other hand, I've never
>been to
>Canada.  Maybe things are different there.

>-Andrew