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by **Beckett Richard-qswi26** » Thu, 30 Aug 2001 23:56:54

Guys,

Gonna get a new hard disk :-)

Last time I did this, I was running win 3.11, so I did the following:

1. Removed the old disk, and fitted new disk, set to master.
2. Booted from floppy.
3. Ran fdisk, and formatted the new one as a bootable system disk.
4. Set the new disk to slave, and fitted the old as master.
5. Copied everything from old onto new.
6. Removed old disk, and refitted new one set to master again.

Once complete, my system ran fine and looked identical to the old one.

I have a feeling that step 5 is not going to work properly with win 98. Is
there anything I can do similar to the above? I _really_ don't want to have
to do a clean install.

Also...can anyone tell me what's the deal with UDMA100 cables? I got a new
Mobo, so I used the new HDD cable that came with it on my old disk and it
worked. Do I need a different cable, or should I use the same new cable
supplied?

I have disk caddies, too, which use a short length of cable from the HDD to
the cartridge. Will I need to replace this internal caddy cable, or will I
need UDMA100 compatible caddies?

Thanks.

R.

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by **Joel Gu** » Fri, 31 Aug 2001 01:07:34

Riichard with win98 I would recommend getting a copy of a drivecopying software
to copy your drive then you would not have to format the software would copy
the track and sector not just the files making sure you get all tracks.

> Guys,

> Gonna get a new hard disk :-)

> Last time I did this, I was running win 3.11, so I did the following:

> 1. Removed the old disk, and fitted new disk, set to master.
> 2. Booted from floppy.
> 3. Ran fdisk, and formatted the new one as a bootable system disk.
> 4. Set the new disk to slave, and fitted the old as master.
> 5. Copied everything from old onto new.
> 6. Removed old disk, and refitted new one set to master again.

> Once complete, my system ran fine and looked identical to the old one.

> I have a feeling that step 5 is not going to work properly with win 98. Is
> there anything I can do similar to the above? I _really_ don't want to have
> to do a clean install.

> Also...can anyone tell me what's the deal with UDMA100 cables? I got a new
> Mobo, so I used the new HDD cable that came with it on my old disk and it
> worked. Do I need a different cable, or should I use the same new cable
> supplied?

> I have disk caddies, too, which use a short length of cable from the HDD to
> the cartridge. Will I need to replace this internal caddy cable, or will I
> need UDMA100 compatible caddies?

> Thanks.

> R.

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by **Joel Gu** » Fri, 31 Aug 2001 01:12:42

forgot to give you some samples of software to get the best is by powerquest
they have 2 different ones they have DriveCopy and also Drive Image the other
one that comes to mind is Ghost by Nortons.

> Guys,

> Gonna get a new hard disk :-)

> Last time I did this, I was running win 3.11, so I did the following:

> 1. Removed the old disk, and fitted new disk, set to master.
> 2. Booted from floppy.
> 3. Ran fdisk, and formatted the new one as a bootable system disk.
> 4. Set the new disk to slave, and fitted the old as master.
> 5. Copied everything from old onto new.
> 6. Removed old disk, and refitted new one set to master again.

> Once complete, my system ran fine and looked identical to the old one.

> I have a feeling that step 5 is not going to work properly with win 98. Is
> there anything I can do similar to the above? I _really_ don't want to have
> to do a clean install.

> Also...can anyone tell me what's the deal with UDMA100 cables? I got a new
> Mobo, so I used the new HDD cable that came with it on my old disk and it
> worked. Do I need a different cable, or should I use the same new cable
> supplied?

> I have disk caddies, too, which use a short length of cable from the HDD to
> the cartridge. Will I need to replace this internal caddy cable, or will I
> need UDMA100 compatible caddies?

> Thanks.

> R.

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by **Jonny Hodgso** » Fri, 31 Aug 2001 04:05:46

What happens if you do a 'DOS boot' instead?

Just curious,
Jonny

by **Dave Henri** » Fri, 31 Aug 2001 06:13:31

"Jonny Hodgson" > What happens if you do a 'DOS boot' instead?
dunno about a dos boot but I DO know what happens in Das Boot......
dave henrie

by **Steve Garrot** » Sat, 01 Sep 2001 00:33:14

If you do a DOS boot all your long file names will be converted to
short files names as in C:\Program Files will become C:\Progra~1 and
this is not good. You have to use the xcopy32 command. I tend to take
the xcopy32 command one step further.

xcopy32 c:\*.* d:\*.* /s/e/c/i/h/r/k

I have never had any trouble with this type of copy.

Also it is much easier to install the new drive as the slave and the
old drive as master, then boot win98, do your fdisk, reboot, format
and do the xcopy32. Then shut down and move the slave to master and
master to slave and boot again and all SHOULD work fine (unless you
want to remove the old drive then just set it to CS and be done with
it.

SLG

>> You should only need the UDMA100 cables for the UDMA100 drives.
>Standard IDE
>> cables will be fine for the older drives. They'll work on the
>UDMA100 drives as
>> well, but you'll loose speed and functionality.

>> If you don't want to buy disk duplicating software to copy the data,
>for Step
>> 5, try opening a DOS window (-not- re-starting in DOS mode) and
>type:

>> xcopy32 c:\*.* d:\ /h /e /c /k

>What happens if you do a 'DOS boot' instead?

>Just curious,
>Jonny

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and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are
due to too many English classes/teachers)

by **Biz** » Sat, 01 Sep 2001 11:52:18

BOth Western Digital and Maxtor have available for d/l from their websites
disk copying utils that work flawlessly, I bleieve if you use one of the 2
utils, you only have to fit the disks into the pc once, puttting the new one
as primary master right from the start....

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by **Richard Becket** » Sat, 01 Sep 2001 17:26:07

Thanks guys.

Looks like Maxtor have just the utility I need.
I just checked which HDD I'll be getting, and it _is_ a maxtor!

Is there anything that r.a.s doesn't know?! ;-)

R.

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by **Eldre** » Sun, 02 Sep 2001 08:27:46

In article

>Guys,

>Gonna get a new hard disk :-)

>Last time I did this, I was running win 3.11, so I did the following:

>1. Removed the old disk, and fitted new disk, set to master.
>2. Booted from floppy.
>3. Ran fdisk, and formatted the new one as a bootable system disk.
>4. Set the new disk to slave, and fitted the old as master.
>5. Copied everything from old onto new.
>6. Removed old disk, and refitted new one set to master again.

>Once complete, my system ran fine and looked identical to the old one.

>I have a feeling that step 5 is not going to work properly with win 98. Is
>there anything I can do similar to the above? I _really_ don't want to have
>to do a clean install.

If you can get the new drive to work as the slave drive, try this:
Run windows, run the command prompt(DOS window). Run FDISK. Exit, shutdown,
then reboot. In windows again, go to windows explorer, and format the slave
drive. After it finishes, go to the command prompt again. Assuming your
master drive is C: and the slave is D: type the following:
xcopy32 c: d: /c/h/e/r/k

This will copy ALL files and ignore any errors you may get. When it finishes,
remove the old drive, connect the new one as master. Make sure the BIOS has
the right drive type, and start it up again. If it doesn't start correctly,
put the old drive in, format a floppy as a boot disk, and copy fdisk.exe to it.
Connect the new drive again, then use the floppy to set the partition to
'active'.

I've done the above procedure SEVERAL times, and it's worked fine. I don't
have to beg/borrow/buy/steal any special software to do it.

Eldred
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by **Simon Hayne** » Tue, 04 Sep 2001 22:17:14

1) Plug it in with the old one
2) format (/s) & partition it.
3) Make a folder on new one called 'Windows'
4) Drag contents of your existing Windows folder into it EXCLUDING
WIN386.SWP
5) Drag rest of c:\ files into root of new drive
6) Switch off, remove old drive. Chnge new to master
7) boot from floppy and fdisk - change new drive's first partition to Active
8) Reboot, test and rejoice.

Done it many times. (Install the old drive as a slave, but don't wipe it
until you're happy with the new one)

Cheers
Simon
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