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Dave Henri

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by Dave Henri » Wed, 01 Jan 2003 13:54:25

  The Simbin crew have released two more cars for the GTR 2k2 mod.  The 24hr
of Nurburging winner: Zakspeed Viper and a fictional Gulf Lister.  Once you
see the Lister in the famous Gulf Livery, you'll understand why most Listers
are painted black...that is ONE UGLY CAR!!!
dave :) henrie
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Joachim Trens

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by Joachim Trens » Wed, 01 Jan 2003 21:47:18

There's a beautiful ~1970 Ferrari 512 at

http://www.m4driving.sm/filesingle.php?id_f=2465&id_c=687&id_ft=915

Needs a bit of tweaking to get it into GTR2002 as it's for F1_2001
originally, but the readme tells you how to.

Achim


24hr
...

Jason Moy

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by Jason Moy » Thu, 02 Jan 2003 05:12:17

On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 13:47:18 +0100, "Joachim Trensz"


>There's a beautiful ~1970 Ferrari 512 at

>http://www.m4driving.sm/filesingle.php?id_f=2465&id_c=687&id_ft=915

>Needs a bit of tweaking to get it into GTR2002 as it's for F1_2001
>originally, but the readme tells you how to.

!!!

How does it drive, sir Achim?

Jason

Joel A. Willstei

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by Joel A. Willstei » Thu, 02 Jan 2003 07:39:03

Dave,

     You hit it right on the head. I thought that in black it was horrible,
but in the Gulf colors it is truly UGLY !!

Joel Willstein

--

"If you can leave black marks on a straight from the time you exit a corner
till the time you brake for the next turn
, then you have enough horsepower."
Mark Donohue


Joel A. Willstei

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by Joel A. Willstei » Thu, 02 Jan 2003 07:39:03

Dave,

     You hit it right on the head. I thought that in black it was horrible,
but in the Gulf colors it is truly UGLY !!

Joel Willstein

--

"If you can leave black marks on a straight from the time you exit a corner
till the time you brake for the next turn
, then you have enough horsepower."
Mark Donohue


Joachim Trens

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by Joachim Trens » Thu, 02 Jan 2003 23:58:48

IMHO the real 512 _could_ have felt something like this.

Very hard suspension, very direct steering, lightweight and quick, turbo
lag, huge power onset when the turbo kicks in under acceleration is modelled
well within the constraints of this sim, the throttle is still precise
though, you just have to be easy on it.

Lapspeeds are faster than that of the Marcos (the only other car I really
drive in GTR2002 except for a few test laps). Behaviour follows nicely all
setup modifications. On bumpy tracks like RoadAtlanta this 512 jumps as
badly as a scared chicken, you have to play with suspension settings and
also adjust your driving style to this characteristic, which I think is
perfectly realistic. Fast speed, but not a fire and forget car - you have to
use it within its constraints.

The original engine sound IMHO is too loud, I reduced it to 75% and think
that is more in line with the other GTR2002 cars. Sound hue is best
described and stinging I think, it bites your eardrums badly :)

All in all I'm pretty impressed with this 512, it's an extremely fascinating
car for me - maybe because it's one of the hot rods of the times when I was
young, I don't know if today's young folks are equally fascinated with it,
but I certainly am.

Happy new year, Jason!!

Achim


> On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 13:47:18 +0100, "Joachim Trensz"

> >There's a beautiful ~1970 Ferrari 512 at

> >http://www.m4driving.sm/filesingle.php?id_f=2465&id_c=687&id_ft=915

> >Needs a bit of tweaking to get it into GTR2002 as it's for F1_2001
> >originally, but the readme tells you how to.

> !!!

> How does it drive, sir Achim?

> Jason

dfroi

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by dfroi » Sun, 05 Jan 2003 00:56:55


> IMHO the real 512 _could_ have felt something like this.

> Very hard suspension, very direct steering, lightweight and quick, turbo
> lag, huge power onset when the turbo kicks in under acceleration is modelled
> well within the constraints of this sim, the throttle is still precise
> though, you just have to be easy on it.

> Lapspeeds are faster than that of the Marcos (the only other car I really
> drive in GTR2002 except for a few test laps). Behaviour follows nicely all
> setup modifications. On bumpy tracks like RoadAtlanta this 512 jumps as
> badly as a scared chicken, you have to play with suspension settings and
> also adjust your driving style to this characteristic, which I think is
> perfectly realistic. Fast speed, but not a fire and forget car - you have to
> use it within its constraints.

> The original engine sound IMHO is too loud, I reduced it to 75% and think
> that is more in line with the other GTR2002 cars. Sound hue is best
> described and stinging I think, it bites your eardrums badly :)

> All in all I'm pretty impressed with this 512, it's an extremely fascinating
> car for me - maybe because it's one of the hot rods of the times when I was
> young, I don't know if today's young folks are equally fascinated with it,
> but I certainly am.

> Happy new year, Jason!!

> Achim



>>On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 13:47:18 +0100, "Joachim Trensz"

>>>There's a beautiful ~1970 Ferrari 512 at

>>>http://www.m4driving.sm/filesingle.php?id_f=2465&id_c=687&id_ft=915

>>>Needs a bit of tweaking to get it into GTR2002 as it's for F1_2001
>>>originally, but the readme tells you how to.

>>!!!

>>How does it drive, sir Achim?

>>Jason

Hi,

What Ferrari 512 are you talking about?

I only know two Ferrari 512 models: the road-going 512BB (Berlinetta
Boxer), and the race Sports Prototype 512M (Porsche 917 rival), both
late 60`s/early 70`s, and they were both 5-liter, 12-cylinder,
atmosferic engines. I don`t know any 512 with turbo. Perhaps some of the
    privately prepared 512BB`s that appeared in the years to follow?

This is not totally academic, as I am now gathering everything necessary
to install GTR2002, as a companion to GPL.

Thanks.

DF

Joachim Trens

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by Joachim Trens » Sun, 05 Jan 2003 03:57:42

Maybe I was wrong and what I perceived isn't a turbo lag. It feels like one,
but it doesn't say anywhere whether it's a turbo or not.

As for what 512 I'm talking about, why don't you visit the link I gave and
see for yourself? That'll be the fastest way :-)

Achim

Scorpi

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by Scorpi » Sun, 12 Jan 2003 04:04:07

Very sound advice. I could not get to it the first time, but I`ve checked it
now, and it is the sports prototype of Le Mans :))))))))))))))))))))).YES!

It is a 5-liter V12, atmospheric.

I just got GTR2002 working, and, boy, is it great! I`ll try the Ferrari
today.

If anyone wants more info on the Ferrari, just tell me.

DF




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