rec.autos.simulators

by **Bob** » Sun, 09 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I'm considering the purchase of an ECCI wheel and would like to hear some
feedback or impressions. Are they worth the money? Do the pedals work
better than they look? Would you buy another?

by **Don Scurlo** » Sun, 09 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I've had one since March 96, and it's still as solid as the day I got
it. Outstanding build quality. I originally purchased it for NFS
where it was a disapointment. It got a lot better with Nascar and
IndyCar2, and it's wonderful with GPL. No regrets whatsoever. Having
said that, if I were buying a wheel today, I would go force feedback.
Unfortunately nobodys making a high quality product. I REALLY wish
ECCI would come out with a FF wheel. I've got money burning a hole
through my pocket waiting to buy it. Not sure what you mean by your
pedal comment. They look pretty good to me. There are some very nice
looking pedals available from other makers:
http://www.mindspring.com/~srcwheel/
http://www.wave.co.nz/pages/lakewood/Redline2.htm

--
Don Scurlock
Vancouver,B.C.

by **Jacob Butne** » Sun, 09 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Yes.. Yes.. Yes..

I have a CDS4000 Monza F1 with brake upgrade.

Here are some pictures :
http://www.thisismylife.net/desk1.jpg
http://www.thisismylife.net/desk2.jpg

-Jacob
Team BHMS
www.bhmotorsports.com

> I'm considering the purchase of an ECCI wheel and would like to hear some
> feedback or impressions. Are they worth the money? Do the pedals work
> better than they look? Would you buy another?

by **mets4** » Sun, 09 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I own three of the original systems and have never had a problem other than
tipping forward. Then John at ECCI made weights for the back of the
steering wheels and never had a problem again. The problem was probably me
pulling forward on the steering wheel in my aggressive way of handling the
wheel. The more I got used to the ease and fluid motion of steering, (after
having used a TM setup), there was never an issue.

If you've got the money buy one, (or setup a LAN like I have and buy
multiple units), it'll be the best PC equipment you'll ever buy.

Joe

>I'm considering the purchase of an ECCI wheel and would like to hear some
>feedback or impressions. Are they worth the money? Do the pedals work
>better than they look? Would you buy another?

by **Jacob Butne** » Sun, 09 Apr 2000 04:00:00

you can't post binaries to this group :) Newsserver will reject them if you
try to post binaries..

-Jacob
Team BHMS
www.bhmotorsports.com

> I forgot, that your not suppose to post pics to this newsgroup. Certain
> folks on this newsgroup do nothing but wait for someone to do something
> wrong. Consider me guilty and move on.

> > I'm considering the purchase of an ECCI wheel and would like to hear
some
> > feedback or impressions. Are they worth the money? Do the pedals work
> > better than they look? Would you buy another?

by **Don Scurlo** » Mon, 10 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Nice setup Jacob, I want your desk. But come on..Coke Classic ?

--
Don Scurlock
Vancouver,B.C.

by **Rush** » Mon, 10 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I forgot, that your not suppose to post pics to this newsgroup. Certain
folks on this newsgroup do nothing but wait for someone to do something
wrong. Consider me guilty and move on.

> I'm considering the purchase of an ECCI wheel and would like to hear some
> feedback or impressions. Are they worth the money? Do the pedals work
> better than they look? Would you buy another?

by **GTX_SlotCa** » Mon, 10 Apr 2000 04:00:00

It goes with the carpet ;)

Slot

by **Woodie** » Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:00:00

>I'm considering the purchase of an ECCI wheel and would like to hear some
>feedback or impressions. Are they worth the money? Do the pedals work
>better than they look? Would you buy another?

CDS4000 Daytona with progressive brake here. I absolutely love it and wouldn't
think twice about buying another. I've had it about two years and use it about
two hours a day. I've never had it open (well of course I tore it apart to
look inside when I first got it) but the point is I've never even cleaned the
pots. The pedals are the best thing about it. The pedal blades are bigger
than your foot, your entire foot rests quite comfortable on the pedal at an
angle which is quite comfortable. I used to have trouble keeping my left foot
ready to go without pressing the brake a little with my old T1. Got cramps on
my foot and lower leg from holding it constantly poised. Now I leave my foot
on the brake pedal even at Talladega, where I never use the brake.

Don McCorkle
Libertarian Motorsports

by **Joeri Co** » Thu, 13 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Bob,

Last year October I ordered an ECCI Monza F1 with the brake upgrade and
fluid damped steering. It was sent all the way to the Netherlands and
arrived. Since then, there has not been *one* day I wasn't completely in
love with the wheel.

It's a very impressive piece of machinery. The joy in driving racing sims
increases ten fold, knowing that you're holding the same wheel that brought
Alain Prost his F1 world championship in 1990. The pressure when turning the
wheel can be adjusted any way you want, with the effect that when running a
50% or longer race at short tracks like Bristol, I'd get tired like hell,
but it's worth it.

The brake upgrade is very good, but still not as realistic as my real car.
Compared to my Thrustmaster T2 and any other pedal set without pressure
modulated braking I tried, it is sim racing heaven.

The fluid damped steering is a must. That's about all there is to say about
it: it's fantastic.

However, all of the above does not mean the wheel is perfect. When I first
got it, my wheel said 'click' when moving it all the way to the left. In a
wheel as precise as this one, you *feel* what it says. In other words: I
FELT 'click'. I don't like feeling click, because it distracts my attention
from finding the right line. This problem was fixed by Andy of ECCI however,
by guiding me through the process by phone.

I also had a slight problem with the gas pot. At a certain point it would
return erratic values. This problem was easily fixed too, however.

So would I buy one again? If I could spare the money, I most certainly
would. I have never, ever regretted the purchase. Every day when I arrive
home from work, after I say hello to my girlfriend, I say hello to the wheel
(I'm sick, I know).

And how perfect is the wheel? I would say about 99%. The problems I
encountered were so small and so easily fixed, it's really no big deal. The
real problem is, that when buying the 'best money can buy' (read ECCI), you
naturally expect a *perfect* wheel. But there is *always* room for
improvement.
---
Joeri J. Cox
J_Cox on N3 - ICQ# 60159253
Thrustmaster T2 Upgrade Page - http://huizen.dds.nl/~jjcox

by **Joeri Co** » Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:00:00

the

Oops! I forgot a word - that ALMOST brought Alain Prost etc. etc. etc. :-)
Senna lives forever!
---
Joeri J. Cox
J_Cox on N3 - ICQ# 60159253
Thrustmaster T2 Upgrade Page - http://huizen.dds.nl/~jjcox

by **Christopher Rossi** » Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:00:00

It is an excellent piece of machinery.
I am the lucky owner of a Monza wheel
with all the add-ons.
An example of the realism with this system
is that after I brushed the Indy wall in a
race against the AI I had to physically
hold the wheel at an odd angle to keep the
car from going to the right and I mean I
had to exert a whole lot of pressure to do this.
Another aspect is how you can feel the weight
come off the front of the car when you have
a front tyre come off the ground or just
get real light as you go down the hill from
Station at Monaco for example. The quality of the
materials that make up the equipment looks like
it could qualify to go on the Space Shuttle.
chris

> I'm considering the purchase of an ECCI wheel and would like to hear some
> feedback or impressions. Are they worth the money? Do the pedals work
> better than they look? Would you buy another?

by **Ian** » Sat, 15 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Does that mean ECCI have succumbed to Force feedback ?

--
Ian Parker

==

by **Christopher Rossi** » Sun, 16 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I never had a force feedback wheel so I can't compare.
I am a very low tech person who thinks high tech is magic,
but my best guess is that the fluid dampening system(?)in the
wheel mechanism along with the springs *forces you* to
exert varying degrees of pressure to achieve a given result.
The bent steering example is easy to understand, but that
lighting of the front end was a surprise. I first noticed it
in a big way at the Nurburgring on the dipping right-hander
called Kallenhard, I believe.

> Does that mean ECCI have succumbed to Force feedback ?

> --
> Ian Parker

> ==

> > It is an excellent piece of machinery.
> > I am the lucky owner of a Monza wheel
> > with all the add-ons.
> > An example of the realism with this system
> > is that after I brushed the Indy wall in a
> > race against the AI I had to physically
> > hold the wheel at an odd angle to keep the
> > car from going to the right and I mean I
> > had to exert a whole lot of pressure to do this.
> > Another aspect is how you can feel the weight
> > come off the front of the car when you have
> > a front tyre come off the ground or just
> > get real light as you go down the hill from
> > Station at Monaco for example. The quality of the
> > materials that make up the equipment looks like
> > it could qualify to go on the Space Shuttle.
> > chris

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