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by **David G Fishe** » Wed, 01 Sep 1999 04:00:00

The Rally Championship demo is an alpha version of the game. Check the date
in the read me file also. It does not have the full physics model, all the
sounds, all the graphics options, and only allows keyboard control.

It was given to the French magazine "Joystick" to be included on one of
their demo CD's so that the casual gamer (which is almost the entire
population of gamers) could have a preview of the sim.

Joystick magazine explained to it's readers what the demo contained in it's
magazine and online review.

That the demo was then uploaded to the net and passed around, and now
assumptions are being made as to what it represents, says more about the
state of the internet than anything else I guess.

Some people took a few minutes to find out exactly what it was they were
looking at. Others have not and have jumped to conclusions about the final
version.

David G Fisher

by **Martin Urs** » Wed, 01 Sep 1999 04:00:00

On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:39:34 -0400, "David G Fisher"

>The Rally Championship demo is an alpha version of the game. Check the date
>in the read me file also. It does not have the full physics model, all the
>sounds, all the graphics options, and only allows keyboard control.

Quick question: Does the date in the readme refer to February
8, 1999 or August 2, 1999?

Martin
Nigel Mansell RIP!

by **David L. Co** » Wed, 01 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Not slamming Magnetic Fields or anything - but to set the record straight
the following quote is off the RC forum on simracingnews.com.

Andrew Bolt of Magnetic Fields: "The physics are fairly complete in the
demo - the main thing missing is car damage."

David Cook

> The Rally Championship demo is an alpha version of the game. Check the date
> in the read me file also. It does not have the full physics model, all the
> sounds, all the graphics options, and only allows keyboard control.

> It was given to the French magazine "Joystick" to be included on one of
> their demo CD's so that the casual gamer (which is almost the entire
> population of gamers) could have a preview of the sim.

> Joystick magazine explained to it's readers what the demo contained in it's
> magazine and online review.

> That the demo was then uploaded to the net and passed around, and now
> assumptions are being made as to what it represents, says more about the
> state of the internet than anything else I guess.

> Some people took a few minutes to find out exactly what it was they were
> looking at. Others have not and have jumped to conclusions about the final
> version.

> David G Fisher

by **Ed Ba** » Wed, 01 Sep 1999 04:00:00

On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:39:34 -0400,

But David, if it were a decent game/sim, and the developers had a clue
or any sense of pride in their game, then why would they have released
it in this condition, to anyone? No joystick control? C'mon...

I wish to thank the poster that said it was keyboard only. It saved
me a lot of download time.

I, too, will wait until this one is fully released and some time and
usenet reviews have occured before considering buying it.
Oh, and I loved the earlier Europress Rally game. I just refuse
to drive with a keyboard.

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by **Ed Ba** » Wed, 01 Sep 1999 04:00:00

On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:50:59 GMT,

LOL!!

Oops, and there's that joystick control we forgot..

>> The Rally Championship demo is an alpha version of the game. Check the date
>> in the read me file also. It does not have the full physics model, all the
>> sounds, all the graphics options, and only allows keyboard control.

>> It was given to the French magazine "Joystick" to be included on one of
>> their demo CD's so that the casual gamer (which is almost the entire
>> population of gamers) could have a preview of the sim.

>> Joystick magazine explained to it's readers what the demo contained in it's
>> magazine and online review.

>> That the demo was then uploaded to the net and passed around, and now
>> assumptions are being made as to what it represents, says more about the
>> state of the internet than anything else I guess.

>> Some people took a few minutes to find out exactly what it was they were
>> looking at. Others have not and have jumped to conclusions about the final
>> version.

>> David G Fisher

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* http://www.cabal.net
* http://www.sputum.com

by **Grant Reev** » Wed, 01 Sep 1999 04:00:00

> It was given to the French magazine "Joystick" to be included on one of
> their demo CD's so that the casual gamer (which is almost the entire
> population of gamers) could have a preview of the sim.

It strikes me as being quite amusing, giving a keyboard only demo to
a magazine called "Joystick" :)

Grant.

by **Barry Lee** » Wed, 01 Sep 1999 04:00:00

hmmm, the number of "Alpha" demos that end looking a hell of a lot like
their eventual release is getting more common. The fact that the handling
on this demo is very much like their predecessors is a bit of a worry. The
car has less slip on gravel than my car has on bitumen! Still, that maybe
good, because if your tail gets more than 3 inches beyond square, your car
will slam into something due to the ridiculously narrow trenches (track).
It looks great, but I fear the handling is going to be the same as the
previous renditions. Bring on the slippery slide. I like to point the nose
in early and glide around the corners. The sensation of speed is great, but
going around corners is just, de-throttle, steer, continue. Its just feels
robotic. None of that de-throttle, point nose, glide/slide rear , throttle
up, adjust slide, straighten car, rear snap back and off you go.

Oh, well, here's hoping.... Bring on GP3 in the meantime.

Bazza

<SNIP>

by **Andrew MacPhers** » Wed, 01 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Absolutely correct. I'm trying really hard to remember any game or sim
where I disliked the demo and bought the full release. Can't think of any
titles, and I can't think of any good reason why a developer would allow
an unrepresentative demo out the door... apart from, perhaps, to gauge
whether they really need to go the extra mile and add the "optional
extras".

Ditto.

Andrew McP

by **Stephen Warrio** » Wed, 01 Sep 1999 04:00:00

>.... I'm trying really hard to remember any game or sim
>where I disliked the demo and bought the full release.

While I agree with you in general, I can think of one sim that fits that
category for me - GPL.

by **Andrew MacPhers** » Thu, 02 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Certainly can't agree with you on that one. That demo was more important
for me than the release of the finished sim. No-one forgets their first
time! ;-)

Andrew McP

by **Stephen Warrio** » Thu, 02 Sep 1999 04:00:00

The difference is probably that you were already a dedicated sim afficianado
and/or had read something about GPL prior to trying the demo. Not so for
me. I didn't know what I was getting into and became completely frustrated
with the demo in pretty short order. It was only later after I learned more
about GPL that I bought the full version and gave it the learning period
that it required. After that, I was hooked.

>> I can think of one sim that fits
>> that category for me - GPL.

>Certainly can't agree with you on that one. That demo was more important
>for me than the release of the finished sim. No-one forgets their first
>time! ;-)

>Andrew McP

by **Tilu** » Fri, 03 Sep 1999 04:00:00

CORRECT ! :-)

Tilus

by **Doug Hoo** » Fri, 03 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Absolutely the same experience at this address

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