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Running out of gas on last lap!

JD

Running out of gas on last lap!

by JD » Tue, 11 Mar 1997 04:00:00

I ran out of gas on the last lap of talladega, while on the lead lap.
After getting towed in and a splash of gas I crossed over the stripe and
finished behind all of the cars down a lap. (From 1st to 32nd)

Is this the correct way of scoring or is it another bug?????

Hell I would have pitted and finished 16th if I would have known.

Greg Cisk

Running out of gas on last lap!

by Greg Cisk » Tue, 18 Mar 1997 04:00:00


To be honest, this sounds about right to me.

Well now you know :-)

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Jim Sokolo

Running out of gas on last lap!

by Jim Sokolo » Tue, 18 Mar 1997 04:00:00


>I ran out of gas on the last lap of talladega, while on the lead lap.
>After getting towed in and a splash of gas I crossed over the stripe and
>finished behind all of the cars down a lap. (From 1st to 32nd)

>Is this the correct way of scoring or is it another bug?????

Had you seen the white flag while running at speed? If so,it sounds
like a bug, but it's too early in the morning for me to completely
wrap my mind around this problem. I can't come up with any explanation
for it, though, so it sounds like a bug.

---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus

David Spark

Running out of gas on last lap!

by David Spark » Wed, 19 Mar 1997 04:00:00



>>I ran out of gas on the last lap of talladega, while on the lead lap.
>>After getting towed in and a splash of gas I crossed over the stripe and
>>finished behind all of the cars down a lap. (From 1st to 32nd)

>>Is this the correct way of scoring or is it another bug?????

>Had you seen the white flag while running at speed? If so,it sounds
>like a bug, but it's too early in the morning for me to completely
>wrap my mind around this problem. I can't come up with any explanation
>for it, though, so it sounds like a bug.

Jim, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you get credit for a lap
under tow. So it's as if he never completed the final lap.

Dave Sparks
IWCCCARS Project: http://www.theuspits.com/iwcccars
Late Night League: http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html
Hawaii Handle: davids

Perry Lawle

Running out of gas on last lap!

by Perry Lawle » Wed, 19 Mar 1997 04:00:00

You are right Dave.  You DO NOT get credit for a lap under tow.  The
car must cross the start/finish line under its own power...




>>>I ran out of gas on the last lap of talladega, while on the lead lap.
>>>After getting towed in and a splash of gas I crossed over the stripe and
>>>finished behind all of the cars down a lap. (From 1st to 32nd)

>>>Is this the correct way of scoring or is it another bug?????

>>Had you seen the white flag while running at speed? If so,it sounds
>>like a bug, but it's too early in the morning for me to completely
>>wrap my mind around this problem. I can't come up with any explanation
>>for it, though, so it sounds like a bug.

>Jim, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you get credit for a lap
>under tow. So it's as if he never completed the final lap.

>Dave Sparks
>IWCCCARS Project: http://www.theuspits.com/iwcccars
>Late Night League: http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html
>Hawaii Handle: davids

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AWROS

Running out of gas on last lap!

by AWROS » Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:00:00


>Jim, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you get credit for a lap
>under tow. So it's as if he never completed the final lap.

You're right Dave. The same thing happened to Bill Elliott last year -
Michigan I think. He ran out out gas and one of the Bodines gave him a
push back to the line. He was only credited with the last lap he ran under
his own power.

Alan Rosenthal

Jim Sokolo

Running out of gas on last lap!

by Jim Sokolo » Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:00:00



>>Jim, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you get credit for a lap
>>under tow. So it's as if he never completed the final lap.

>You're right Dave. The same thing happened to Bill Elliott last year -
>Michigan I think. He ran out out gas and one of the Bodines gave him a
>push back to the line. He was only credited with the last lap he ran under
>his own power.

I didn't know that rule. (learn something everyday I suppose) Is that
a Cup rule only? I'm pretty sure I saw two Busch cars being pushed
across the line down at Daytona (Gargoyles 300) this year, and I
believe they were scored as finishing on the lead lap, but I don't
know for sure...

---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus

Doug Reichl

Running out of gas on last lap!

by Doug Reichl » Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:00:00

This is the scenario:

Driver A = the leader and takes the white flag to START the last lap.
Driver B = same lap as A
Driver C = same lap as A
Driver D = 1 lap behind A
Driver E = 1 lap behind A

Driver A runs out of gas and coasts to a stop on the backstretch (what a
shame).

The finishing order would then be (if no other passing):

Driver B = winner    lead lap
Driver C = 2nd       lead lap
Driver A = 3rd       -1 lap
Driver D = 4th       -1 lap
Driver E = 5th       -1 lap

Mike Radl

Running out of gas on last lap!

by Mike Radl » Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:00:00

Ok, I'm curious about this. What if?

I am on the last lap and on the lead lap. I run out of gas and stop on the
back stretch, Get towed, get fuel and then cross the line under my own
power. Do I then get credited for completing all of the laps? It wouldn't
seem right if I did, especially if a lapped car passed me while I was being
towed. Anybody know how Nascar the real series or Nascar the sim handles
this situation?


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David Spark

Running out of gas on last lap!

by David Spark » Thu, 20 Mar 1997 04:00:00


>Ok, I'm curious about this. What if?

>I am on the last lap and on the lead lap. I run out of gas and stop on the
>back stretch, Get towed, get fuel and then cross the line under my own
>power. Do I then get credited for completing all of the laps? It wouldn't
>seem right if I did, especially if a lapped car passed me while I was being
>towed. Anybody know how Nascar the real series or Nascar the sim handles
>this situation?

I don't believe you get credit for any lap that you don't complete fully
under your own power.

If I recall correctly, the 1995 BGN championship boiled down to the last
race. David Green got caught up in a big wreck coming off of Turn 4, and
his car was nearly demolished. But somehow he got it fired up and managed
to limp it across the s/f line. That was just enough to give him the
championship,  it moved him up 5 or 6 positions in the race, because most
of the other cars involved did not cross the stripe.

Dave Sparks
IWCCCARS Project: http://www.theuspits.com/iwcccars
Late Night League: http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html
Hawaii Handle: davids

Jim Sokolo

Running out of gas on last lap!

by Jim Sokolo » Fri, 21 Mar 1997 04:00:00


>I am on the last lap and on the lead lap. I run out of gas and stop on the
>back stretch, Get towed, get fuel and then cross the line under my own
>power. Do I then get credited for completing all of the laps? It wouldn't
>seem right if I did, especially if a lapped car passed me while I was being
>towed.

It wouldn't matter (position wise) if a lapped car passed you (once)
while you were being towed.

(Suppose it's a 100 lap race, and you complete 99 (seeing the white
flag), run out of gas and stop on the back stretch. While being towed,
a lap car (which has completed 98 laps, and is on his way to complete
99) passes you. His race is now over (since he's seen the checkered)
at 99 laps complete. He completed his 99th lap AFTER you did, so
you're in front of him in the standings. The only question is whether
you're in front of him with 99 laps complete, or with 100 laps
complete.

My guess is that the answer is you'd be creditted with 100 laps in the
above scenario, but I don't actually know. Suppose that's a question
for Papyrus to ask NASCAR, so we can get it right... I believe that
currently if you are under tow when you cross the line, you don't get
the lap; if you're not, you get the lap, but I haven't tested it
myself.

---Jim Sokoloff, Papyrus


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