touring cars and Tom Walkinshaw might not get his Jags to Le Mans....
Mark
series?
Mark
series?
So by having this "really cool idea" that gives you the credit for it? That
means I'm one of the most prolific inventors of this century as I have all
these cool ideas that I can't make happen myself and then someone else does
it. *sweet*
Seriously tho, an idea is well and good but Ilmor should get the credit, no
Penske. Comparing creating the engine to making the tubs is missing my
point. It's one thing to have an idea and tell someone who can make it
happen, quite another to actually create the thing in question.
Okay... he is a US citizen but the majority of his car and parts are
sourced in Europe. To me, regardless of the owner, that makes it a European
car more than a US car.
Incidentally how do the people in the All American Championship that is IRL
like a Swede winning the title and their blue ribband race in a European
chassis?
We'd noticed ;)
M
p.s.
if we're getting off topic, maybe we should switch to email or a more
suitable newsgroup :)
>>Penske masterminded the concept -- or Penske's people did, at least --
>>so he gets the credit by default. FWIW, I'm also aware that Roger
>>does NOT personally lay up the carbon fiber tubs by hand, either.
>So by having this "really cool idea" that gives you the credit for it? That
>means I'm one of the most prolific inventors of this century as I have all
>these cool ideas that I can't make happen myself and then someone else does
>it. *sweet*
We love it, frankly -- Kenny Brack is a great driver deserving of the
win. The Indianapolis 500 is an international event, so the more the
merrier. Why do people automatically assume that IRL fans all have
anti-foreign sentiments towards non-American drivers in the IRL??
Thanks! But what does this have to do with autos.simulators??
-- JB
Last I looked no one claimed any of the chassises in IRL are American made.
Only chassis I know (currently being raced too) of in either CART/IRL that
is all American made is the Swift chassis.
We do? Speak for yourself. Brack isn't a great driver until he's stacked
up with the rest of the great drivers, and only Arie might come close to
being labeled that in the IRL (notice how before he crashed he was over 3mph
faster than the rest of the field?).
Indy 500 is no international event, it is no "more the merrier" either. If
it was, you wouldn't have to race in 10 other sorry IRL events to compete.
Also, it would not be sanctioned by IRL, rather it would still be sanctioned
by a neutral party such as the USAC (yes, I'm aware that USAC sanctioned IRL
for awhile too). I don't think that people assume there ARE IRL fans.
But, I do believe the assumption that there is an anti-foreign sentiment
towards non-American drivers is because of Tony George. He was so damn
insistant that there was too much foreign influence in CART, so that was one
of the reasons that he started IRL (that and he seems to consider road
racing foreign to the American race scene too....shakes his head sadly).
M
Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of my employer.
--
>Last I looked no one claimed any of the chassises in IRL are American
made.
Matt
> > > >Okay... he is a US citizen but the majority of his car and parts are
> > > >sourced in Europe. To me, regardless of the owner, that makes it a
> > European
> > > >car more than a US car.
> > Last I looked no one claimed any of the chassises in IRL are American
> made.
> > Only chassis I know (currently being raced too) of in either CART/IRL that
> > is all American made is the Swift chassis.
> > > We love it, frankly -- Kenny Brack is a great driver deserving of the
> > > win. The Indianapolis 500 is an international event, so the more the
> > > merrier. Why do people automatically assume that IRL fans all have
> > > anti-foreign sentiments towards non-American drivers in the IRL??
> > We do? Speak for yourself. Brack isn't a great driver until he's stacked
> > up with the rest of the great drivers, and only Arie might come close to
> > being labeled that in the IRL (notice how before he crashed he was over
> 3mph
> > faster than the rest of the field?).
> > Indy 500 is no international event, it is no "more the merrier" either.
> If
> > it was, you wouldn't have to race in 10 other sorry IRL events to compete.
> > Also, it would not be sanctioned by IRL, rather it would still be
> sanctioned
> > by a neutral party such as the USAC (yes, I'm aware that USAC sanctioned
> IRL
> > for awhile too). I don't think that people assume there ARE IRL fans.
> > But, I do believe the assumption that there is an anti-foreign sentiment
> > towards non-American drivers is because of Tony George. He was so damn
> > insistant that there was too much foreign influence in CART, so that was
> one
> > of the reasons that he started IRL (that and he seems to consider road
> > racing foreign to the American race scene too....shakes his head sadly).
> Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of my employer.
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