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Will the United States admit it was wrong to invade Iraq?

Ya doesn't hast to call me Johnso

Will the United States admit it was wrong to invade Iraq?

by Ya doesn't hast to call me Johnso » Mon, 29 May 2006 12:29:47





>> Nothing has come of this war but more death and chaos, as many tried to
>> warn the United States government and its citizens, yet all America will
>> do is stay the course. How strange.

> One thing the u.s. has proven it can do better than anyone is to lie, and
> then send a bunch of coward, vile, scumbags to another country and have
> them slaughter little children. Even 8 month old babies. They also ***
> their mothers, old ladies, and old men in wheelchairs who have one leg.

> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> ------
> It was the home of 76-year-old Abdul Hamid Hassan Ali. Although he had
> used
> a wheelchair since diabetes forced a leg amputation years ago, Ali was
> always one of the first on his block to go out every morning, scattering
> scraps for his chickens and hosing the dust of the arid western town from
> his driveway, neighbors said.

> In the house with Ali and his 66-year-old wife, Khamisa Tuma Ali, were
> three
> of the middle-aged male members of their family, at least one
> daughter-in-law and four children -- 4-year-old Abdullah, 8-year-old Iman,
> 5-year-old Abdul Rahman and 2-month-old Asia.

> Families slain
> Marines entered shooting, witnesses recalled. Most of the shots -- in
> Ali's
> house and two others -- were fired at such close range that they went
> through the bodies of the family members and plowed into walls or the
> floor,
> physicians at Haditha's hospital said.

> A daughter-in-law, identified as Hibbah, escaped with Asia, survivors and
> neighbors said. Iman and Abdul Rahman were shot but survived.
> Four-year-old
> Abdullah, Ali and the rest died.

> Ali took nine rounds in the chest and abdomen, leaving his intestines
> spilling out of the exit wounds in his back, according to his death
> certificate.

> The Marines moved to the house next door, Fahmi said.

> Inside were 43-year-old Khafif, 41-year-old Aeda Yasin Ahmed, an
> 8-year-old
> son, five young daughters and a 1-year-old girl staying with the family,
> according to death certificates and neighbors.

> The Marines shot them at close range and hurled grenades into the kitchen
> and bathroom, survivors and neighbors said later. Khafif's pleas could be
> heard across the neighborhood. Four of the girls died screaming.

> Only 13-year-old Safa Younis lived -- saved, she said, by her mother's
> ***
> spilling onto her, making her look dead when she fell, limp, in a faint.

> Townspeople led a Washington Post reporter this week to the girl they
> identified as Safa. Wearing a ponytail and tracksuit, the girl said her
> mother died trying to gather the girls. The girl burst into tears after a
> few words. The older couple caring for her apologized and asked the
> reporter
> to leave.

> Moving to a third house in the row, Marines burst in on four brothers,
> Marwan, Qahtan, Chasib and Jamal Ahmed. Neighbors said the Marines killed
> them together.

> Marine officials said later that one of the brothers had the only gun
> found
> among the three families, although there has been no known allegation that
> the weapon was fired.

> Meanwhile, a separate group of Marines found at least one other house full
> of young men. The Marines led the men in that house outside, some still in
> their underwear, and away to detention.

> Inadvertent victims
> The final victims of the day happened upon the scene inadvertently,
> witnesses said. Four male college students -- Khalid Ayada al-Zawi, Wajdi
> Ayada al-Zawi, Mohammed Battal Mahmoud and Akram Hamid***eh -- had left
> the Technical Institute in Saqlawiyah for the weekend to stay with one of
> their families on the street, said Fahmi, a friend of the young men.

> A Haditha taxi driver, Ahmed Khidher, was bringing them home, Fahmi said.

> According to Fahmi, the young men and their driver turned onto the street
> and saw the wrecked Humvee and the Marines. Khidher threw the car into
> reverse, trying to back away at full speed, Fahmi said, and the Marines
> opened fire from about 30 yards away, killing all the men inside the taxi.
> ------

> --
> David G Fisher

Do you have an agenda, Davey?
James Promm

Will the United States admit it was wrong to invade Iraq?

by James Promm » Mon, 29 May 2006 12:50:58







> >>   I heard the following on the radio today.  Tell me who is more kooky.

> >> A caller changed the subject to the conviction of the Enron
executives...
> >> The host was momentarily put off since that was not the current topic
of
> >> discussion  But then the radio ride really turned into a trip to
fantasy
> >> land.

> >>   The caller insisted the Enron trial was merely a show trial and that
> >> the
> >> two execs would be pardoned.  And here was his reason.  Haliburton.
Yes
> >> THAT Haliburton.  Apparently, according to the caller,  Vice President
> >***
> >> Cheney would make sure they got pardoned because the first Bush
> >> President,
> >> when he was the CIA chief, had allowed Horror-writer Steven King to
> >> assainate John Lennon.    There was even some website that PROVED that.
> >> And since the Enron execs KNEW that Haliburton had provided the former
> >> CIA
> >> chief with the go-ahead to allow Steven King(author of Horror books) to
> >> shoot John Lennon.  Mark David Chapman was NOT the man seen getting the
> >> autograph,  it was....Steven King.  So the Enron execs will go free.

> >>   After reading this...do ANY of you have any doubt that America is
> >> insane
> >> and will do whatever we choose?  Both the right and the left are
consumed
> >> by a fantasy.  So Rex,  and all you 'give the world a hug and it will
hug
> >> you back' types   SHADDUP!   And Mitch....Who can't figure out WHY
anyone
> >> wants to hurt us...relax.  We all live in an asylum and nothing we can
> >> say
> >> or do will change that.   Just breathe deeply....and count to ten..
> >> 1, 2, 5.....

> >> dave...oh...ps...would you be further suprised to know that another
> >> caller
> >> chastised the host for not taking the original caller more seriously?
> > What
> >> a world we live in....
> >>       henrie

> >   Hehe.......it must be true because there's a website about
> > it...........classic <g>

> >  Btw, there's plenty of wackos to go around; America doesn't have a
corner
> > on the market <g>

> u.s. has a lot though. Look at all the whackos who believed the bullshit
> that Iraq had WMD's.

> --
> David G Fisher

   You lost me there; you mean all the wackos in France, GB, Russia, China,
Germany, etc. who believed the same thing ?  <g>
Derek Smuc

Will the United States admit it was wrong to invade Iraq?

by Derek Smuc » Mon, 29 May 2006 15:58:58






>>>  I heard the following on the radio today.  Tell me who is more kooky.

>>>A caller changed the subject to the conviction of the Enron executives...
>>>The host was momentarily put off since that was not the current topic of
>>>discussion  But then the radio ride really turned into a trip to fantasy
>>>land.

>>>  The caller insisted the Enron trial was merely a show trial and that
>>>the
>>>two execs would be pardoned.  And here was his reason.  Haliburton.  Yes
>>>THAT Haliburton.  Apparently, according to the caller,  Vice President

>>Dick

>>>Cheney would make sure they got pardoned because the first Bush
>>>President,
>>>when he was the CIA chief, had allowed Horror-writer Steven King to
>>>assainate John Lennon.    There was even some website that PROVED that.
>>>And since the Enron execs KNEW that Haliburton had provided the former
>>>CIA
>>>chief with the go-ahead to allow Steven King(author of Horror books) to
>>>shoot John Lennon.  Mark David Chapman was NOT the man seen getting the
>>>autograph,  it was....Steven King.  So the Enron execs will go free.

>>>  After reading this...do ANY of you have any doubt that America is
>>>insane
>>>and will do whatever we choose?  Both the right and the left are consumed
>>>by a fantasy.  So Rex,  and all you 'give the world a hug and it will hug
>>>you back' types   SHADDUP!   And Mitch....Who can't figure out WHY anyone
>>>wants to hurt us...relax.  We all live in an asylum and nothing we can
>>>say
>>>or do will change that.   Just breathe deeply....and count to ten..
>>>1, 2, 5.....

>>>dave...oh...ps...would you be further suprised to know that another
>>>caller
>>>chastised the host for not taking the original caller more seriously?

>>What

>>>a world we live in....
>>>      henrie

>>  Hehe.......it must be true because there's a website about
>>it...........classic <g>

>> Btw, there's plenty of wackos to go around; America doesn't have a corner
>>on the market <g>

> u.s. has a lot though. Look at all the whackos who believed the bullshit
> that Iraq had WMD's.

Of course you'd have bet your house on them NOT having them back in 03!
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, much used by armchair generals.
Tony Rickar

Will the United States admit it was wrong to invade Iraq?

by Tony Rickar » Mon, 29 May 2006 17:11:33


> Sad that if I reply to this idiots bullshit Im told to "take it somewhere
> else" and many times not so nicely (yes you included Tony) yet many of the
> same RAS censors seem to feel it's ok if THEY respond to this retarded fools
> ramblings.

I was pointing out the b***nature of the post rather than replying to
it before anyone felt obliged to reply and set this OT thing off again.

Cheers
Tony

remove EATSPAM to repl

Will the United States admit it was wrong to invade Iraq?

by remove EATSPAM to repl » Tue, 30 May 2006 12:24:10


DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!

==--=

Will the United States admit it was wrong to invade Iraq?

by ==--= » Wed, 31 May 2006 02:36:03

Don't be an ass Mitch - trying to match hair styles with political views is
about as stupid as posting political rants in a sim-racing forum.

'Both of you should get out of here'


> Sad that if I reply to this idiots bullshit Im told to "take it somewhere
> else" and many times not so nicely (yes you included Tony) yet many of the
> same RAS censors seem to feel it's ok if THEY respond to this retarded
> fools ramblings.

> Quit replying to this idiot so I dont have to see it (which is his point)
> or Im going to start a daily politics war here on RAS and trust me I have
> plenty of ammo and am quite willing to let loose on the ponytailed
> liberals. I really hoped to just ignore the little homo wrecker (which
> really gets his goat) and stay on topic but you all just cant ignore the
> little puke.

> Mitch




>>> Nothing has come of this war but more death and chaos, as many tried to
>>> warn the United States government and its citizens, yet all America will
>>> do is stay the course. How strange.

>> What war? I admit to having been concentrating on trying to improve my
>> laptimes and may have missed the news for a little while...

Mitch

Will the United States admit it was wrong to invade Iraq?

by Mitch » Wed, 31 May 2006 02:48:00

When the hairstyle fits....

Im not going anywhere and if you seriously think I would based on YOUR
request you are more delusional than I originally thought.

Mitch

Byron Forbe

Will the United States admit it was wrong to invade Iraq?

by Byron Forbe » Wed, 31 May 2006 12:55:48


    U.S. = The Blind leading the blind.

    George W Bush = Poster child for democracy ie anyone can "make it" in a
democracy!

    How hilarious it is, now that the prince of Wales is sucked up 2nd hand
***, and mutton at that, and that the British monachy is finished and
therefore not explicity or implicity making anything obvious to the world,
to now see the world chase it's tale around in circles like a stupid little
puppy dog.

    GO Democracy, GO GO GO

    rotfl

    Rex and co, what do you expect from democracy - it's what you have when
you have no leadership. It never ceaes to amaze me that so many people are
unaware of this obvious (to me) fact.

    True leaders are voted in with guns - not the votes of pussies. All the
voting is done with guns. The gutless get no say and the fools get killed
off - perfect!

    :|

redTe

Will the United States admit it was wrong to invade Iraq?

by redTe » Wed, 31 May 2006 23:23:34

Now that's your typical Aussie, folks.

Mitch

Will the United States admit it was wrong to invade Iraq?

by Mitch » Thu, 01 Jun 2006 02:14:49

I know a few Aussies and Id have to disagree.  He's the Fredrickson/Fischer
version of an American LOL.  Big mouth, zero substance.

Mitch


> Now that's your typical Aussie, folks.

Ronald Stoeh

Will the United States admit it was wrong to invade Iraq?

by Ronald Stoeh » Thu, 01 Jun 2006 03:14:18


>>   True leaders are voted in with guns - not the votes of pussies. All the
>>voting is done with guns. The gutless get no say and the fools get killed
>>off - perfect!

> Now that's your typical Aussie, folks.

That's like saying, Mitch is the typical US American.

Thank God, that's not true... ;)

redTe

Will the United States admit it was wrong to invade Iraq?

by redTe » Thu, 01 Jun 2006 05:07:34


Those I've met are of the "if it moves, shoot it and stick it on the barbie"
variety.
Great sense of humour tho :) All this, "we hate the empire", "down with the
Queen" is really quaint. They must be the only nation on earth that actually
thinks the monarchy is still a going concern !
Newsflash, Aussies...IT DOESN'T MATTER !


>> Now that's your typical Aussie, folks.

Mitch

Will the United States admit it was wrong to invade Iraq?

by Mitch » Thu, 01 Jun 2006 05:32:05

The once silent majority is fed up and thats the fact.  We've had enough
Eurotrashian political correctness to last many lifetimes.  As you will see
people like me make up the vast MAJORITY of Americans and were taking back
our Country from self serving scumbags.

I don't care who gets elected this November but mark my words many
incumbents will be taking new jobs in the lobbyist crowd on Nov 5th.  Thats
the silent majority talking (of which I belong)

so Ronny....     ..|..

Mitch


rex rolan

Will the United States admit it was wrong to invade Iraq?

by rex rolan » Thu, 01 Jun 2006 06:27:45

When were you guys silent? You live in fear and have been ***ing for
years and years. Didn't you guys start this whole mess anyway? When will
Reagan be criticized for anything?

> The once silent majority is fed up and thats the fact.  We've had enough
> Eurotrashian political correctness to last many lifetimes.  As you will see
> people like me make up the vast MAJORITY of Americans and were taking back
> our Country from self serving scumbags.

> I don't care who gets elected this November but mark my words many
> incumbents will be taking new jobs in the lobbyist crowd on Nov 5th.  Thats
> the silent majority talking (of which I belong)

> so Ronny....     ..|..

> Mitch



>> That's like saying, Mitch is the typical US American.

>> Thank God, that's not true... ;)

Ronald Stoeh

Will the United States admit it was wrong to invade Iraq?

by Ronald Stoeh » Thu, 01 Jun 2006 08:27:18


> The once silent majority is fed up and thats the fact.  We've had enough
> Eurotrashian political correctness to last many lifetimes.  As you will see
> people like me make up the vast MAJORITY of Americans and were taking back
> our Country from self serving scumbags.

> I don't care who gets elected this November but mark my words many
> incumbents will be taking new jobs in the lobbyist crowd on Nov 5th.  Thats
> the silent majority talking (of which I belong)

> so Ronny....     ..|..

What? You won? You are the m***majority? LOL!

Your kind is not even near a majority inside the GOP as many
Republicans would get irritated by most of your outburst.

How's life in a bubble?

BTW, Eurotrashian, that's a specific group, or just a braindead
generalization fitting your IQ?

Why don't you *** up the flightsim group some more? Oh, you're done?



>>That's like saying, Mitch is the typical US American.

>>Thank God, that's not true... ;)


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