rec.autos.simulators

> Complicated question.
> 2 months ago I bought an MSI Ti4400. I did a lot of research and thought
it
> was the best bang for the buck. (I thought I'd get a 4200, but the prices
> didn't drop like I expected them to).  The 4400 oc's easily to 4600 specs
> and I'm happy with it.
> Now, things are different. The 4400 is still a great deal, but an MSI 4600
> is less than $40 more. ($228, includes shipping) I don't know how much
more
> you can get out of the 4600 by oc'ing, but .... it may be something to
> consider at that price.
> The Radeon Pro is as low as $321 now. It is a next generation card. If
> you're going to spend around $200 anyway, maybe you should consider adding
> another $100 to it.
> As always, all the cards will be cheaper after Dec. when the new NV30s
come
> out. Choosing a video card is always a hard thing to do.
> Oh, and yes, there is a difference in the different companies' offerings
of
> the same NV cards. The speeds are generally close, but some run much
hotter
> than others.
> I suppose, if I had to buy a card right now, I'd make the same choice I
made
> 2 months ago; but the decision is more complicated.
> I think for you, a Ti4400 is a pretty good match for your P4 1.3. Are you
> planning to upgrade your cpu & motherboard soon?

> --
> Slot

> Tweaks & Reviews
> www.slottweak.com

> > I would like your opinions, to enable me to choose my next Video card.
> > I would like to know if I would see a great difference in frame rates
etc
> > Between the GF4 4200 , 4400 and 4600 cards.
> > I have noticed that there are quite a few brands using the same
chipsets,
> > with quite a bit of difference in price between the Brands. I would also
> > like your comments on weather there is much difference between the
> different
> > brands using the same chip sets.
> > I really would like your opinions on which card offers the best bang for
> > bucks at the moment.
> > The next question is this, If you guys for example recommend the 4400 as
> > best value for money at the moment, would there be much difference in
> Frame
> > rates etc between say a 4400 64 Meg  and a 4400 128 Meg.
> > How does the extra ram effect performance and by how much?

> > I Mainly use the following Sims:
> > GPL
> > LFS
> > F12002
> > in that order.

> > My current system is :   (yes I know my current card is a dinosaur)  :-)

> > P4 1.3
> > GF2 MX 64M
> > 256 M  RD Ram  (800Mhz)
> > SB Live
> > XP

> > Thanks in advance to all that Post

> > Darf

> Thanks for your opinion.
> No I am not planing to upgrade my MB or CPU for a while.
> Can you recommend an actual card Model number and brand name in the range
> ...or is the Ti part only a certain brand?

> Darf

> > I think for you, a Ti4400 is a pretty good match for your P4 1.3. Are
you
> > planning to upgrade your cpu & motherboard soon?

> > --
> > Slot

> Best Buy and Compusa are supposed to start selling the 4200 for $129 - 30
> rebate = $99.00 this weekend.

> -Tim

> > I would like your opinions, to enable me to choose my next Video card.
> > I would like to know if I would see a great difference in frame rates
etc
> > Between the GF4 4200 , 4400 and 4600 cards.
> > I have noticed that there are quite a few brands using the same
chipsets,
> > with quite a bit of difference in price between the Brands. I would also
> > like your comments on weather there is much difference between the
> different
> > brands using the same chip sets.
> > I really would like your opinions on which card offers the best bang for
> > bucks at the moment.
> > The next question is this, If you guys for example recommend the 4400 as
> > best value for money at the moment, would there be much difference in
> Frame
> > rates etc between say a 4400 64 Meg  and a 4400 128 Meg.
> > How does the extra ram effect performance and by how much?

> > I Mainly use the following Sims:
> > GPL
> > LFS
> > F12002
> > in that order.

> > My current system is :   (yes I know my current card is a dinosaur)  :-)

> > P4 1.3
> > GF2 MX 64M
> > 256 M  RD Ram  (800Mhz)
> > SB Live
> > XP

> > Thanks in advance to all that Post

> > Darf

> Do a search on pricewatch.com for the MSI Ti4400. You'll be all set.

> --
> Slot

> Tweaks & Reviews
> www.slottweak.com

> > Thanks for your opinion.
> > No I am not planing to upgrade my MB or CPU for a while.
> > Can you recommend an actual card Model number and brand name in the
range
> > ...or is the Ti part only a certain brand?

> > Darf

> > > I think for you, a Ti4400 is a pretty good match for your P4 1.3. Are
> you
> > > planning to upgrade your cpu & motherboard soon?

> > > --
> > > Slot

> Compusa 4200's are $129 after rebate.

> from Compusa website:

> Valid From:  9/15/02
> Valid To:      9/21/02
> Rebate Details:
> Regular Retail Price: $199.99
>   -$40.00 Instant Saving

> You Pay: $159.99 Price after instant rebates, if any
>   -$30.00 Mfr. Mail-in Rebate

> CompUSA Price: $129.99 Price after instant & mail-in rebates

> > Best Buy and Compusa are supposed to start selling the 4200 for $129 -
30
> > rebate = $99.00 this weekend.

> > -Tim

> > > I would like your opinions, to enable me to choose my next Video card.
> > > I would like to know if I would see a great difference in frame rates
> etc
> > > Between the GF4 4200 , 4400 and 4600 cards.
> > > I have noticed that there are quite a few brands using the same
> chipsets,
> > > with quite a bit of difference in price between the Brands. I would
also
> > > like your comments on weather there is much difference between the
> > different
> > > brands using the same chip sets.
> > > I really would like your opinions on which card offers the best bang
for
> > > bucks at the moment.
> > > The next question is this, If you guys for example recommend the 4400
as
> > > best value for money at the moment, would there be much difference in
> > Frame
> > > rates etc between say a 4400 64 Meg  and a 4400 128 Meg.
> > > How does the extra ram effect performance and by how much?

> > > I Mainly use the following Sims:
> > > GPL
> > > LFS
> > > F12002
> > > in that order.

> > > My current system is :   (yes I know my current card is a dinosaur)
:-)

> > > P4 1.3
> > > GF2 MX 64M
> > > 256 M  RD Ram  (800Mhz)
> > > SB Live
> > > XP

> > > Thanks in advance to all that Post

> > > Darf

> I would like your opinions, to enable me to choose my next Video card.
> I would like to know if I would see a great difference in frame rates
> etc Between the GF4 4200 , 4400 and 4600 cards.
> I have noticed that there are quite a few brands using the same
> chipsets, with quite a bit of difference in price between the Brands.
> I would also like your comments on weather there is much difference
> between the different brands using the same chip sets.
> I really would like your opinions on which card offers the best bang
> for bucks at the moment.
> The next question is this, If you guys for example recommend the 4400
> as best value for money at the moment, would there be much difference
> in Frame rates etc between say a 4400 64 Meg  and a 4400 128 Meg.
> How does the extra ram effect performance and by how much?

> I Mainly use the following Sims:
> GPL
> LFS
> F12002
> in that order.

> My current system is :   (yes I know my current card is a dinosaur)
> :-)

> P4 1.3
> GF2 MX 64M
> 256 M  RD Ram  (800Mhz)
> SB Live
> XP

> Thanks in advance to all that Post

> Darf