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If you dont like GTR you wont like GTL

Saltheart_Foamfollowe

If you dont like GTR you wont like GTL

by Saltheart_Foamfollowe » Fri, 19 Aug 2005 03:10:32

They are nearly identical based on what they gave us in this demo.  Ive seen
free mods with more changes than this.  Where is gmotor2?
jason moye

If you dont like GTR you wont like GTL

by jason moye » Fri, 19 Aug 2005 03:49:01


> They are nearly identical based on what they gave us in this demo.  Ive seen
> free mods with more changes than this.  Where is gmotor2?

Rfactor?  And do you really think gmotor2 is going to be that big of an
improvement?

I think Simbin's replacement of cars that porpoise constantly with cars
that dumptruck all over the place is a pretty big change.  Not
necessarily a good one...

Remco Moed

If you dont like GTR you wont like GTL

by Remco Moed » Fri, 19 Aug 2005 04:14:59



>> They are nearly identical based on what they gave us in this demo.  Ive seen
>> free mods with more changes than this.  Where is gmotor2?

>Rfactor?  And do you really think gmotor2 is going to be that big of an
>improvement?

>I think Simbin's replacement of cars that porpoise constantly with cars
>that dumptruck all over the place is a pretty big change.  Not
>necessarily a good one...

Well, I tried the demo, and noticed the old ISI controller lag is
still there...the mirrors aren't very helpfull either, being out of
view for the largest part. I do like the sound, though.

But still...it's no GPL..... :-P

Cheers!

Remco

Praxiteles Democritu

If you dont like GTR you wont like GTL

by Praxiteles Democritu » Fri, 19 Aug 2005 05:23:57

On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 18:10:32 GMT, "Saltheart_Foamfollower"


>They are nearly identical based on what they gave us in this demo.  Ive seen
>free mods with more changes than this.  Where is gmotor2?

At least we agree on something.
cosmo_kram..

If you dont like GTR you wont like GTL

by cosmo_kram.. » Fri, 19 Aug 2005 05:45:04

I guess it follows that if I like GTR, then I'll like GTL...  Cool!  I
like GTR... A lot!
(I play offline only, so the multi-player issues of GTR are not an
issue for me).
Saltheart_Foamfollowe

If you dont like GTR you wont like GTL

by Saltheart_Foamfollowe » Fri, 19 Aug 2005 06:33:10

Based on the Rfactor demo yes, I expected more than GTL supplies.

I dont follow this "porpoising" stuff in GTR.  I dont know exactly what
youre describing.  I dont have it though ;)

The vette is the only one ive tried and it is a fn truck...

really think gmotor2 is going to be that big of an

jason moye

If you dont like GTR you wont like GTL

by jason moye » Fri, 19 Aug 2005 06:44:40


> But still...it's no GPL..... :-P

GPL is no GTP or RBR. :)
jason moye

If you dont like GTR you wont like GTL

by jason moye » Fri, 19 Aug 2005 06:58:49


> How do you get split axis to work on this demo? (Logi momo)

Have you tried clicking on "throttle" and pressing your throttle, then
clicking "brake" and pressing your brake?
Alan Bernard

If you dont like GTR you wont like GTL

by Alan Bernard » Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:07:48


I've driven one of these Corvettes, and they do drive like trucks.  At least
the one I drove was extremely heavy and moved almost as one, very heavily.
Either my memory has failed me, but don't these older cars drive like this?

I have never tried rFactor so I don't know what comparisons to make between
the GTL Demo.  I know that I did like the demo, and thought, at least
considering the interface, that it was much better.  I didn't run into any
lag problems except when I tried the high-resolution livery on the AI cars.
When I did that, as soon as a car came near me, my frames dropped to near
zero.  I also had to set the shaders to direct-x8.  Using direct-x9 caused
excruciatingly low frames.

I was pleased with the demo, for the most part.  As you all know, I'm no
expert on these simulators, but it felt pretty decent.  How many of us here
have actually driven one of these types of cars?  I mean, if you haven't,
how do you know how they should handle?

Though I might wait to hear the final verdict on GTL before I purchase, I
saw no real problems with the demo.

Is it simply that some are so stuck on GPL, that there's no room for
anything else? (Responses to this query will give me the answer.)

Alanb

jason moye

If you dont like GTR you wont like GTL

by jason moye » Fri, 19 Aug 2005 14:10:32


> I've driven one of these Corvettes, and they do drive like trucks.  At least
> the one I drove was extremely heavy and moved almost as one, very heavily.
> Either my memory has failed me, but don't these older cars drive like this?

I would expect more wheel spin with a locked power side than you get in
the game (I've been running with 80% power, 20% coast) but overall I
think the physics in the GTL demo feel "more real" to me than GTR.  I
made a joke about trading in cars that porpoise for cars that
dumptruck, but in my experience old stingrays push like hell without
the throttle down.
flightlessvac..

If you dont like GTR you wont like GTL

by flightlessvac.. » Fri, 19 Aug 2005 14:47:39



> > But still...it's no GPL..... :-P

> GPL is no GTP or RBR. :)

or LFS. :P
Bruce Kennewel

If you dont like GTR you wont like GTL

by Bruce Kennewel » Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:47:56

Well,  after having bought and played GTR I ended up "not liking" it after
several weeks.
I don't know why...things that I can't really put my finger on but as a
complete package I couldn't get into it.

The GTL demo has been downloaded and run for an hour or so and, like it's
cousin, it doesn't grab me.
Enjoyable as it is to throw a Corvette around, or a Lotus Elan, I am being
influenced against buying the full package by the gameplay aspect, where
there are the arcade-like features such as unlocking additional cars.

In addition, I was hoping that this would be a retro-type game, along the
lines of GPL, where we would be taken back to not only the cars of the
1960's/1970's, but also the circuits of that era.
To discover that the complete package is only centred on the FIA's European
historical retrospective is disappointing for me.

Oh well....back to GPL and GP3 with the 1970's add-ons! :)

BK

Mr. Sylvestr

If you dont like GTR you wont like GTL

by Mr. Sylvestr » Sat, 20 Aug 2005 17:24:12


> GPL is no GTP or RBR. :)

An heretic ! Quick, to the stake !

Mr. Sylvestre

Mr. Sylvestr

If you dont like GTR you wont like GTL

by Mr. Sylvestr » Sat, 20 Aug 2005 17:31:51




>>>But still...it's no GPL..... :-P

>>GPL is no GTP or RBR. :)

> or LFS. :P

Thank God and Praise Allah.

Mr. S.

Mr. Sylvestr

If you dont like GTR you wont like GTL

by Mr. Sylvestr » Sat, 20 Aug 2005 17:57:14

Ditto here. I am not too fond of the car unlocking and
old-cars-on-modern-tracks stuff either.

Also the default handling of these cars isn't that fun, IMHO. Tuning
them for more oversteer improves things a bit.  But not to the level of
the Escort Mod.

I didn't expect too much from the Corvette, but the Elan is a
disappointement. Now, I never sat in a Lotus Elan or a Corvette, but I
own a 1967 MGB and have been a passenger in a Type E.  While I love a
relaxing drive in my MG, I don't think that even with a stiffer
suspension it would be really fun on a circuit.  Maybe the real test for
GTL will come when we can drive something like the AC Cobra.

If Simbin releases GTL with the old Spa and Nurburgring tracks, then I
am sold. If it goes along the lines of the Demo, then I'll wait for the
game to appear in the bargain bin. Meanwhile, I still have RBR, GPL and
the Escort Mod :)

Regards,
Mr. Sylvestre


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