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Converted tracks for N3 crashing, a workaround

Uncle Feste

Converted tracks for N3 crashing, a workaround

by Uncle Feste » Fri, 27 Apr 2001 00:46:05

Hey all,

After having crash-to-desktop experiences in N3 at both the GPL
converted Kyalami and at Spa, I decided to try some detective work &
find out why.  At Kyalami, it would boot me out right at the turn-in to
Sunset Bend.  First I tried turning down the sound acceleration in
DXDiag, all the way down.  No difference.  Then I went into N3's video
options & turned off all available options.  Going back out on the track
I now found it would go slightly further before booting me.  Now I could
exit Sunset Bend before it croaked.  Thinking it may be *** on
trying to draw-in, I refired N3 & this time I left the pits & circled
backwards-against the advice of my spotter who was nagging something
about not having any more sponsors next week if I keep this up.  Anyway,
just as I leave Leeukop Bend & halfway to the Esses, it boots me out
again.  OK... I'm on to something here.  Back in, I go to video options
& kill the D3D & go software mode.  Restart N3 & back on the track...
DAMN is that ugly!!!  Reminds me of ICR2 at Cleveland in lo-res mode.
But you know what?  No more crashing to desktop.

Spa was basically the same way as Frank described it.  I could sit in my
pit stall all day long & it was fine.  Try to pull out of my pit &
BANG.  So I dropped down to practice mode & all was great until I hit La
Source, then I got booted again.  Once I tried it in software mode, all
problems have disappeared.  Run with a full field of AI & all, no
problems.

So it seems as a workaround, if you feel you *really must* run these
tracks, you can... if your eyes don't start bleeding on you in software
mode.  Now I wonder... is this a vidcard memory issue?  Or a D3D issue?
I've got a 32MB GF2, does anyone with a 64MB card have these same
problems?  Might this be a GF problem?  How are our friends with Voodoo
cards doing at these tracks?  My system specs:


128MB PC133 RAM
Elsa 32MB GF2 GTS
SoundBlaster Live!

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Fester

Michael Heymann

Converted tracks for N3 crashing, a workaround

by Michael Heymann » Fri, 27 Apr 2001 02:32:14

Im using a Voodoo 5 with 128MB and have the same problem with D3D: Games
crashes for the first time when I want to leave the pits. After starting N3
again I can leave the pits and run nearly a complete lap - game crashes
again at LaSource.
The track works fine for me using the software-mode, so I think it is a
D3D-issue.

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> Hey all,

> After having crash-to-desktop experiences in N3 at both the GPL
> converted Kyalami and at Spa, I decided to try some detective work &
> find out why.  At Kyalami, it would boot me out right at the turn-in to
> Sunset Bend.  First I tried turning down the sound acceleration in
> DXDiag, all the way down.  No difference.  Then I went into N3's video
> options & turned off all available options.  Going back out on the track
> I now found it would go slightly further before booting me.  Now I could
> exit Sunset Bend before it croaked.  Thinking it may be *** on
> trying to draw-in, I refired N3 & this time I left the pits & circled
> backwards-against the advice of my spotter who was nagging something
> about not having any more sponsors next week if I keep this up.  Anyway,
> just as I leave Leeukop Bend & halfway to the Esses, it boots me out
> again.  OK... I'm on to something here.  Back in, I go to video options
> & kill the D3D & go software mode.  Restart N3 & back on the track...
> DAMN is that ugly!!!  Reminds me of ICR2 at Cleveland in lo-res mode.
> But you know what?  No more crashing to desktop.

> Spa was basically the same way as Frank described it.  I could sit in my
> pit stall all day long & it was fine.  Try to pull out of my pit &
> BANG.  So I dropped down to practice mode & all was great until I hit La
> Source, then I got booted again.  Once I tried it in software mode, all
> problems have disappeared.  Run with a full field of AI & all, no
> problems.

> So it seems as a workaround, if you feel you *really must* run these
> tracks, you can... if your eyes don't start bleeding on you in software
> mode.  Now I wonder... is this a vidcard memory issue?  Or a D3D issue?
> I've got a 32MB GF2, does anyone with a 64MB card have these same
> problems?  Might this be a GF problem?  How are our friends with Voodoo
> cards doing at these tracks?  My system specs:


> 128MB PC133 RAM
> Elsa 32MB GF2 GTS
> SoundBlaster Live!

> --

> Fester

Bob Thurma

Converted tracks for N3 crashing, a workaround

by Bob Thurma » Fri, 27 Apr 2001 03:37:36

Exactly the same here. Thinking of putting my Voodoo 3
3000 back in to check things out.

Athlon 950
Hercules G2 GTS pro
SB live value
FIC AZ11e MB
256 meg

buzard


> Hey all,

> After having crash-to-desktop experiences in N3 at both the GPL
> converted Kyalami and at Spa, I decided to try some detective work &
> find out why.  At Kyalami, it would boot me out right at the turn-in to
> Sunset Bend.  First I tried turning down the sound acceleration in
> DXDiag, all the way down.  No difference.  Then I went into N3's video
> options & turned off all available options.  Going back out on the track
> I now found it would go slightly further before booting me.  Now I could
> exit Sunset Bend before it croaked.  Thinking it may be *** on
> trying to draw-in, I refired N3 & this time I left the pits & circled
> backwards-against the advice of my spotter who was nagging something
> about not having any more sponsors next week if I keep this up.  Anyway,
> just as I leave Leeukop Bend & halfway to the Esses, it boots me out
> again.  OK... I'm on to something here.  Back in, I go to video options
> & kill the D3D & go software mode.  Restart N3 & back on the track...
> DAMN is that ugly!!!  Reminds me of ICR2 at Cleveland in lo-res mode.
> But you know what?  No more crashing to desktop.

> Spa was basically the same way as Frank described it.  I could sit in my
> pit stall all day long & it was fine.  Try to pull out of my pit &
> BANG.  So I dropped down to practice mode & all was great until I hit La
> Source, then I got booted again.  Once I tried it in software mode, all
> problems have disappeared.  Run with a full field of AI & all, no
> problems.

> So it seems as a workaround, if you feel you *really must* run these
> tracks, you can... if your eyes don't start bleeding on you in software
> mode.  Now I wonder... is this a vidcard memory issue?  Or a D3D issue?
> I've got a 32MB GF2, does anyone with a 64MB card have these same
> problems?  Might this be a GF problem?  How are our friends with Voodoo
> cards doing at these tracks?  My system specs:


> 128MB PC133 RAM
> Elsa 32MB GF2 GTS
> SoundBlaster Live!

> --

> Fester

ymenar

Converted tracks for N3 crashing, a workaround

by ymenar » Fri, 27 Apr 2001 07:49:43


> Spa was basically the same way as Frank described it.  I could sit in my
> pit stall all day long & it was fine.  Try to pull out of my pit &
> BANG.  So I dropped down to practice mode & all was great until I hit La
> Source, then I got booted again.  Once I tried it in software mode, all
> problems have disappeared.  Run with a full field of AI & all, no
> problems.

Interesting.  You should had seen me in the pits at Spa, trying to spin
around on myself and hope that angle lets me go out more then 1 feet.  Tried
to go backwards also :)

I had tested other tracks without any graphics, but not in software mode.  I
use Glide, so it's not just a D3D issue.  Voodoo3 3000 AGP here.

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