> > "David G Fisher" wrote...

> > > Well Ginger won another one. :-) Big surprise.

> > Not really... Ginger was "on the money" and drove a very good race. He
> fully
> > deserved this result.

> I was being sarcastic. It never surprises me at all when Ginger wins.

> > > Thanks Tim for hosting again. It seemed like a really good race.

> > It was, I've watched the replay and there was some good clean racing
going
> > on all the way down the field. Some incidents obviously, but no more
than
> > was par for the course, I think.

> > > I don't like NASCAR cars on RC's, but I had a pretty good time I
guess.
> > > There was a one > guy after the race in the lobby who was ripping me
> > > while getting drunk :-).

> > Sure, I got really whacked on those two bottles of beer. lol ;-)

> Well women usually don't need too much *** to get drunk. :-o

> > Besides, some good natured ribbing never hurt anyone and you've just set
> > yourself up for some more.

> > > He said I couldn't handle the cars on any tracks other than Texas,
> > > among other things. When I looked over the replay though I noticed
> > > that while I started 12th and he started 6th, I reeled him in by
> > > lap 7. I blew by him and took over 6th but then I got hit with a ***
> > > BF penalty on lap 9 at the inner loop even though I stayed to the
right
> > > of the cones and immediately got back onto the track. That put me back
> > > at 15th or 16th, but I moved back up and finished 6th.

> > <plants tongue firmly in cheek>

> > David, you're no longer playing in the hotlapper kiddiepool.

> Hotlapper old farts pool?

> >You're racing
> > with the big boys now. That means you have to take care of all aspects
of
> > racing, which implies knowing the rules.

> I'd have to watch NASCAR to learn these dumb rules they have (like while
on
> the track during a green flag restart, being forced to stay behind a car
> which is slowly entering the pits and watching the field disappear off
into
> the distance) which would be too painful.

> >To begin with, there's no excuse
> > for losing the car on your own in a 36 lap sprint race. None whatsoever.
> If
> > you don't have the stamina and concentration to keep it on the island
for
> a
> > mere 36 laps you have no business racing for a top 5 finish.

> Well I didn't actually do that. You wouldn't know because you were so far
> behind after I passed you that you couldn't see, but I was trying to find
a
> way around Brian. One reason you were so far behind (other than my
blinding
> speed) was that you lost your car at T1 and went off course for a bit. So
as
> you said, "there's no excuse
>  for losing the car on your own in a 36 lap sprint race. None whatsoever.
If
>  you don't have the stamina and concentration to keep it on the island for
a
>  mere 36 laps you have no business racing for a top 5 finish." :-p

> >Then, if you do
> > lose it, you have to take your medicine, go up the escape road and obey
> the
> > rules of the sport. None of this trying to recover and get back on the
> track
> > asap endangering your fellow competitors thing.

> I didn't think I'd get a black flag for that and since you were so far
back,
> no one was in danger when I got back on track. Even JS who has a ton of
> experience with NASCAR sims misjudged the game's choice of when it would
> give a black flag.

> > My plan, before you conveniently took yourself out of the equation, was
to
> > keep up as closely as possible without hurting my tyres for another 8 to
> 10
> > laps and then start putting pressure on you as you struggled to navigate
> > around the track on completely shot tyres.

> Your plan <cough> would of failed because my tires were in excellent shape
> even after moving up from 13th (not 12th as I stated earlier) to 6th and
> tire wear was never really an issue for me in the race. As long as you
never
> locked them up and skidded, tires were fine for a one stop strategy.

> >Even if you'd pitted early, I'd
> > still would have had a shout as, with a lighter car and less laps to
> > complete on the new tyres I could have gone at least a sec a lap faster
> than
> > you in the closing stages.

> > > I'm sure I would of dispatched him easily without the BF, and I didn't
> > > even care about this race. Next time he will be taught a hard, painful
> > > lesson. :-o

> > Seriously, unless you learn to work with the car to acchieve speed,
rather
> > than impose your F1 influenced will on it,

> I think my F1 influenced will is doing me just fine. Not counting freezes,
I
> have almost never lost control of my car or have caused yellows or crashes
> no matter what condition my tires are in. Even with freezes I've barely
> caused any yellows. Yes, on some tracks where the car handles like a boat
in
> mud I do get very bored and punish the tires too much but that's more by
> choice than by not understanding what to do. I don't like NASCAR, and
that's
> not going to change. On some tracks that dislike comes shining through
more
> than others.

> >you will never consistently beat
> > me, let alone have a sliver of hope to beat people like Ginger, Ian,
John,
> > Brian, Mike, etc... the tyres will bite you every time (cfr. Kansas).
This
> > is the thinking man's autosport David. Think about that. <g>

> I'm not thinking enough? Ok. I'll take that into consideration. I guess
the
> fact that I've gone BLIND (freezes) for three seconds 1-4 times in almost
> every race has had no effect on my results? I think my results have been
> pretty damn good considering that tiny tiny bit of a disadvantage I've
had.
> :-)

> David G Fisher

> P.S. Had a freeze yesterday when the announcement from my pit crew said
> "there's just five laps to go" after crossing the s/f line. Still managed
to
> keep control of my car and made it through T1 unscathed. Something only an
> F1 influenced driver could do with torn up tires (must of been with the
way
> I drive) and his eyes closed for three seconds. :-)

> --
> Edward
> Commissioner
> Middle-Aged Racers Association
> (MARA)

> > > "David G Fisher" wrote...

> > > > Well Ginger won another one. :-) Big surprise.

> > > Not really... Ginger was "on the money" and drove a very good race. He
> > fully
> > > deserved this result.

> > I was being sarcastic. It never surprises me at all when Ginger wins.

> > > > Thanks Tim for hosting again. It seemed like a really good race.

> > > It was, I've watched the replay and there was some good clean racing
> going
> > > on all the way down the field. Some incidents obviously, but no more
> than
> > > was par for the course, I think.

> > > > I don't like NASCAR cars on RC's, but I had a pretty good time I
> guess.
> > > > There was a one > guy after the race in the lobby who was ripping me
> > > > while getting drunk :-).

> > > Sure, I got really whacked on those two bottles of beer. lol ;-)

> > Well women usually don't need too much *** to get drunk. :-o

> > > Besides, some good natured ribbing never hurt anyone and you've just
set
> > > yourself up for some more.

> > > > He said I couldn't handle the cars on any tracks other than Texas,
> > > > among other things. When I looked over the replay though I noticed
> > > > that while I started 12th and he started 6th, I reeled him in by
> > > > lap 7. I blew by him and took over 6th but then I got hit with a
***
> > > > BF penalty on lap 9 at the inner loop even though I stayed to the
> right
> > > > of the cones and immediately got back onto the track. That put me
back
> > > > at 15th or 16th, but I moved back up and finished 6th.

> > > <plants tongue firmly in cheek>

> > > David, you're no longer playing in the hotlapper kiddiepool.

> > Hotlapper old farts pool?

> > >You're racing
> > > with the big boys now. That means you have to take care of all aspects
> of
> > > racing, which implies knowing the rules.

> > I'd have to watch NASCAR to learn these dumb rules they have (like while
> on
> > the track during a green flag restart, being forced to stay behind a car
> > which is slowly entering the pits and watching the field disappear off
> into
> > the distance) which would be too painful.

> > >To begin with, there's no excuse
> > > for losing the car on your own in a 36 lap sprint race. None
whatsoever.
> > If
> > > you don't have the stamina and concentration to keep it on the island
> for
> > a
> > > mere 36 laps you have no business racing for a top 5 finish.

> > Well I didn't actually do that. You wouldn't know because you were so
far
> > behind after I passed you that you couldn't see, but I was trying to
find
> a
> > way around Brian. One reason you were so far behind (other than my
> blinding
> > speed) was that you lost your car at T1 and went off course for a bit.
So
> as
> > you said, "there's no excuse
> >  for losing the car on your own in a 36 lap sprint race. None
whatsoever.
> If
> >  you don't have the stamina and concentration to keep it on the island
for
> a
> >  mere 36 laps you have no business racing for a top 5 finish." :-p

> > >Then, if you do
> > > lose it, you have to take your medicine, go up the escape road and
obey
> > the
> > > rules of the sport. None of this trying to recover and get back on the
> > track
> > > asap endangering your fellow competitors thing.

> > I didn't think I'd get a black flag for that and since you were so far
> back,
> > no one was in danger when I got back on track. Even JS who has a ton of
> > experience with NASCAR sims misjudged the game's choice of when it would
> > give a black flag.

> > > My plan, before you conveniently took yourself out of the equation,
was
> to
> > > keep up as closely as possible without hurting my tyres for another 8
to
> > 10
> > > laps and then start putting pressure on you as you struggled to
navigate
> > > around the track on completely shot tyres.

> > Your plan <cough> would of failed because my tires were in excellent
shape
> > even after moving up from 13th (not 12th as I stated earlier) to 6th and
> > tire wear was never really an issue for me in the race. As long as you
> never
> > locked them up and skidded, tires were fine for a one stop strategy.

> > >Even if you'd pitted early, I'd
> > > still would have had a shout as, with a lighter car and less laps to
> > > complete on the new tyres I could have gone at least a sec a lap
faster
> > than
> > > you in the closing stages.

> > > > I'm sure I would of dispatched him easily without the BF, and I
didn't
> > > > even care about this race. Next time he will be taught a hard,
painful
> > > > lesson. :-o

> > > Seriously, unless you learn to work with the car to acchieve speed,
> rather
> > > than impose your F1 influenced will on it,

> > I think my F1 influenced will is doing me just fine. Not counting
freezes,
> I
> > have almost never lost control of my car or have caused yellows or
crashes
> > no matter what condition my tires are in. Even with freezes I've barely
> > caused any yellows. Yes, on some tracks where the car handles like a
boat
> in
> > mud I do get very bored and punish the tires too much but that's more by
> > choice than by not understanding what to do. I don't like NASCAR, and
> that's
> > not going to change. On some tracks that dislike comes shining through
> more
> > than others.

> > >you will never consistently beat
> > > me, let alone have a sliver of hope to beat people like Ginger, Ian,
> John,
> > > Brian, Mike, etc... the tyres will bite you every time (cfr. Kansas).
> This
> > > is the thinking man's autosport David. Think about that. <g>

> > I'm not thinking enough? Ok. I'll take that into consideration. I guess
> the
> > fact that I've gone BLIND (freezes) for three seconds 1-4 times in
almost
> > every race has had no effect on my results? I think my results have been
> > pretty damn good considering that tiny tiny bit of a disadvantage I've
> had.
> > :-)

> > David G Fisher

> > P.S. Had a freeze yesterday when the announcement from my pit crew said
> > "there's just five laps to go" after crossing the s/f line. Still
managed
> to
> > keep control of my car and made it through T1 unscathed. Something only
an
> > F1 influenced driver could do with torn up tires (must of been with the
> way
> > I drive) and his eyes closed for three seconds. :-)