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Kubica Crash

Lancelo

Kubica Crash

by Lancelo » Wed, 13 Jun 2007 05:48:52

For those that missed it. Frightening!
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Uwe Schürkam

Kubica Crash

by Uwe Schürkam » Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:56:51


> For those that missed it. Frightening!
> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e64_1181508083

True! It reminded me much of Katherine Legge's horrific crash at Road
Amaerica last year(?), unbelievable she walked away from that one and
was smiling and waving at the cameras not one hour later. Robert really
had a "Schutzengel" on Sunday, I feared for the worst when TV showed his
head not moving when his car (or what remained of it) came to a stop.

Cheers, uwe

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John Smit

Kubica Crash

by John Smit » Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:01:14



>> For those that missed it. Frightening!
>> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e64_1181508083

> True! It reminded me much of Katherine Legge's horrific crash at Road
> Amaerica last year(?), unbelievable she walked away from that one and
> was smiling and waving at the cameras not one hour later. Robert really
> had a "Schutzengel" on Sunday, I feared for the worst when TV showed his
> head not moving when his car (or what remained of it) came to a stop.

> Cheers, uwe

> --
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Katherine's wreck was much more horrific imo.
Lancelo

Kubica Crash

by Lancelo » Thu, 14 Jun 2007 05:22:40





>>> For those that missed it. Frightening!
>>> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e64_1181508083

>> True! It reminded me much of Katherine Legge's horrific crash at Road
>> Amaerica last year(?), unbelievable she walked away from that one and
>> was smiling and waving at the cameras not one hour later. Robert really
>> had a "Schutzengel" on Sunday, I feared for the worst when TV showed his
>> head not moving when his car (or what remained of it) came to a stop.

>> Cheers, uwe

>> --
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> Katherine's wreck was much more horrific imo.

I agree after seeing it! Hideous wreck! Found a vid of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGk16hK5IFE
Pete

Kubica Crash

by Pete » Thu, 14 Jun 2007 08:25:38








> >>> For those that missed it. Frightening!
> >>> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e64_1181508083

> >> True! It reminded me much of Katherine Legge's horrific crash at Road
> >> Amaerica last year(?), unbelievable she walked away from that one and
> >> was smiling and waving at the cameras not one hour later. Robert really
> >> had a "Schutzengel" on Sunday, I feared for the worst when TV showed his
> >> head not moving when his car (or what remained of it) came to a stop.

> >> Cheers, uwe

> >> --
> >> GPG Fingerprint:  2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F  67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

> > Katherine's wreck was much more horrific imo.

> I agree after seeing it! Hideous wreck! Found a vid of it.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGk16hK5IFE

Not sure I do.  Her impact on the wall seems more at an angle, which
would have reduced the amount of energy transfer from the impact and
hence why the car didn't travel that far away from the wall that it
impacted.

If you look at the wall that Kubica's car hit you can see that, at the
point of impact, it was not running parallel to the track, but actually
coming back out towards the track, resulting in his car being more
'head-on', requiring a much larger energy transfer and resulting in the
car bouncing all the way over to the other side.  Fortunately for him,
the medical teams were there in only a few seconds, which I believe
improved his chances markedly.

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Woodie8

Kubica Crash

by Woodie8 » Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:54:52


> He had no injuries in the 1st place what did the med crew do? Looking at the
> tub it's amazing that he didn't have 2 broken ankels. Looks like the tubs on
> the F1 cars need to be beefed up some.

You're kidding right?  That's the most amazing display of structural
integrity ever, what the hell would you beef up?

Don McCorkle

Pete

Kubica Crash

by Pete » Thu, 14 Jun 2007 19:00:03












> >> >>> For those that missed it. Frightening!
> >> >>> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e64_1181508083

> >> >> True! It reminded me much of Katherine Legge's horrific crash at Road
> >> >> Amaerica last year(?), unbelievable she walked away from that one and
> >> >> was smiling and waving at the cameras not one hour later. Robert
> >> >> really
> >> >> had a "Schutzengel" on Sunday, I feared for the worst when TV showed
> >> >> his
> >> >> head not moving when his car (or what remained of it) came to a stop.

> >> >> Cheers, uwe

> >> >> --
> >> >> GPG Fingerprint:  2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F  67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

> >> > Katherine's wreck was much more horrific imo.

> >> I agree after seeing it! Hideous wreck! Found a vid of it.
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGk16hK5IFE

> > Not sure I do.  Her impact on the wall seems more at an angle, which
> > would have reduced the amount of energy transfer from the impact and
> > hence why the car didn't travel that far away from the wall that it
> > impacted.

> > If you look at the wall that Kubica's car hit you can see that, at the
> > point of impact, it was not running parallel to the track, but actually
> > coming back out towards the track, resulting in his car being more
> > 'head-on', requiring a much larger energy transfer and resulting in the
> > car bouncing all the way over to the other side.  Fortunately for him,
> > the medical teams were there in only a few seconds, which I believe
> > improved his chances markedly.

> He had no injuries in the 1st place what did the med crew do? Looking at the
> tub it's amazing that he didn't have 2 broken ankels. Looks like the tubs on
> the F1 cars need to be beefed up some.

Was he not unconscious.  That's head trauma of some kind in my medical
book.

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Tim Wheatle

Kubica Crash

by Tim Wheatle » Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:21:14

I'm not sure that was ever confirmed?

Ed Medli

Kubica Crash

by Ed Medli » Thu, 14 Jun 2007 22:11:41


In any case, it appeared to be a SAFER barrier wall and I would bet the farm
if it were pure concrete it could have been much worse.

Ed

Tim Wheatle

Kubica Crash

by Tim Wheatle » Thu, 14 Jun 2007 23:26:55

Standard concrete block walls, seen on many street circuits also (such
as Long Beach).

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/7336/161520848oxc1fl1.jpg

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5571/161520904ojb0pi6.jpg

Jan Verschuere

Kubica Crash

by Jan Verschuere » Fri, 15 Jun 2007 04:20:41

According to an article in the paper over here, he claims to remember the
entire accident, but I'm pretty sure he was out when the car came to a stop.
At the time he appeared to be dead to me.

To "walk" away from that one with only a minor concussion and a sprained
ankle... amazing.

BTW: the more a structure gets "beefed up" the more energy it transfers to
its occupant, which is not a good thing.

Jan.
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The Other Larr

Kubica Crash

by The Other Larr » Fri, 15 Jun 2007 05:34:36

A family member once had a head on into a Honda Accord.  She was driving a
Chevy Suburban.  It was the Accords fault.

Each vehicle protected in a different way.  The Honda basically exploded
into a million pieces.  The Valve cover was some 100 feet away.  The
suburban protected just by sheer mass.

Everyone walked away.

Both had to be towed away, but the Honda was s***metal.  The suburban was
back on the road the next week :)

It was a medium speed crash.  Around 30 mph.  Both entered a sharp curve
(from different directions) and the road was wet.  The accord driver was
going to fast and didn't make the corner, and slid into the suburbans path.

-Larry


Ed Medli

Kubica Crash

by Ed Medli » Fri, 15 Jun 2007 21:59:12


I watched the video and saw that gap (black line) on the wall and thought it
may have been a SAFER barrier. The video was not that good of quality and my
error. Amazing he came through that with such minor injuries. Indy and
ChampCar could take a few lessons from F1 in the***pit safety area. The
driver 'cocoon' was the only part of the car that stayed completely intact
through that entire accident. Thanks for the pics.

Ed

The Other Larr

Kubica Crash

by The Other Larr » Fri, 15 Jun 2007 23:05:15

It's amazing that Tracy broke his back in what was basically a 'Boink' into
the wall.  It barely even dented the nose.

-Larry



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