rec.autos.simulators

by **Andreas Uffinge** » Wed, 07 Jul 1999 04:00:00

I know theres no rain or weather changes in GPL.

But why?
Wahts the reason?
(performance, graficengine, something else?)

Servus
Andreas

http://www.racesimcentral.net/
Die ultimativen DEL/DEB-Add-Ons fr NHL99

by **Bruce Kennewel** » Wed, 07 Jul 1999 04:00:00

"Developer Ethics"

Papyrus (David Kaemmer, I think) decided that, unless the weather
characteristics could be portrayed as realistic (to go with the realism of
the physics) then dry and sunny skies would be the norm.

> I know theres no rain or weather changes in GPL.

> But why?
> Wahts the reason?
> (performance, graficengine, something else?)

> Servus
> Andreas

> http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/uffinger/index.html
> Die ultimativen DEL/DEB-Add-Ons fr NHL99

by **Karl Zose** » Wed, 07 Jul 1999 04:00:00

It never rained in 1967 !

by **Thomas Fo** » Thu, 08 Jul 1999 04:00:00

On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 08:52:49 +0200, "Andreas Uffinger"

> I know theres no rain or weather changes in GPL.

> But why?
> Wahts the reason?
> (performance, graficengine, something else?)

A few of these sorts of features had to be left out of GPL. Perhaps
the most common excuse for this is the further beatings our systems
would have taken with weather effets. Even the most powerful of
computers still have a hard time running GPL with all the details
switched on, and all the cars on the track. They really couldn't
reduce frame rates any more for weather effects.

Shame.

Thomas Ford

"Please remove NOSPAM from e-mail address to reply"

by **Doug** » Thu, 08 Jul 1999 04:00:00

As an accurate recreation of that season/year, I don't think that it ever
rained during that time. At least it didn't rain during the scheduled
races. Besides, the game is auto racing, NOT meteorology!! The day I play
a racing game.. and at the start of the race... it is sunny, and by the end
of the race, it is pouring rain... THEN I will be impressed. Otherwise the
so called 'weather' effects are just plain stupid.
The best game I have ever seen portray weather effects was Flight
Unlimited... when the rain streaked back on the canopy, I nearly lost my
mind!!!
I'd like to see that happen in Formula 1... only the WHOLE SCREEN represents
your helmet visor.

> I know theres no rain or weather changes in GPL.

> But why?
> Wahts the reason?
> (performance, graficengine, something else?)

> Servus
> Andreas

> http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/uffinger/index.html
> Die ultimativen DEL/DEB-Add-Ons fr NHL99

by **Florian Kernle** » Thu, 08 Jul 1999 04:00:00

I don't know when or where it was, but I can remeber someone from the
developer team saying, that they didn't include rain and weather in GPL,
because it would not have been realistic enough with today's technology. I
think he also said, that they would probably/maybe include rain and weather
effects in future titles, featuring realistic puddles and water running over
the track.

If anything I said is wrong or not exactly right, please correct me.

Dex

> As an accurate recreation of that season/year, I don't think that it ever
> rained during that time. At least it didn't rain during the scheduled
> races. Besides, the game is auto racing, NOT meteorology!! The day I
play
> a racing game.. and at the start of the race... it is sunny, and by the
end
> of the race, it is pouring rain... THEN I will be impressed. Otherwise
the
> so called 'weather' effects are just plain stupid.
> The best game I have ever seen portray weather effects was Flight
> Unlimited... when the rain streaked back on the canopy, I nearly lost my
> mind!!!
> I'd like to see that happen in Formula 1... only the WHOLE SCREEN
represents
> your helmet visor.

> > I know theres no rain or weather changes in GPL.

> > But why?
> > Wahts the reason?
> > (performance, graficengine, something else?)

> > Servus
> > Andreas

> > http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/uffinger/index.html
> > Die ultimativen DEL/DEB-Add-Ons fr NHL99

by **Christopher Rossi** » Thu, 08 Jul 1999 04:00:00

No. It rained hard at Mosport. Made it a great race too -
because it was off and on.

> It never rained in 1967 !

by **Chris Schlette** » Thu, 08 Jul 1999 04:00:00

And have no peripheral vision (or at least even less than currently)? :)
However, I concur it will be nice to see a sim that the weather isn't an
effect, but a condition that lessens and worsens as the race progresses (or
moreso, then entire race weekend)

by **Christer Andersso** » Thu, 08 Jul 1999 04:00:00

It happens that it never rained during any of the races at the F1
season of 1967...

/Christer ;o)

> I know theres no rain or weather changes in GPL.

> But why?
> Wahts the reason?
> (performance, graficengine, something else?)

> Servus
> Andreas

> http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/uffinger/index.html
> Die ultimativen DEL/DEB-Add-Ons fr NHL99

by **Christer Andersso** » Thu, 08 Jul 1999 04:00:00

I know I should read all the posts before posting myself, but
sometimes I forget :o).

/Christer

> It happens that it never rained during any of the races at the F1
> season of 1967...

> /Christer ;o)

> > I know theres no rain or weather changes in GPL.

> > But why?
> > Wahts the reason?
> > (performance, graficengine, something else?)

> > Servus
> > Andreas

> > http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/uffinger/index.html
> > Die ultimativen DEL/DEB-Add-Ons fr NHL99

--
http://home.swipnet.se/~w-41236/ (Read all about the "Global online
racing"-proposal under "For developers". Read it a couple of times,
cause noone has understood it the first time they've read it yet :o)).

by **Christer Andersso** » Thu, 08 Jul 1999 04:00:00

There is variable weather in F1RS...

/Christer

> As an accurate recreation of that season/year, I don't think that it ever
> rained during that time. At least it didn't rain during the scheduled
> races. Besides, the game is auto racing, NOT meteorology!! The day I play
> a racing game.. and at the start of the race... it is sunny, and by the end
> of the race, it is pouring rain... THEN I will be impressed. Otherwise the
> so called 'weather' effects are just plain stupid.
> The best game I have ever seen portray weather effects was Flight
> Unlimited... when the rain streaked back on the canopy, I nearly lost my
> mind!!!
> I'd like to see that happen in Formula 1... only the WHOLE SCREEN represents
> your helmet visor.

> > I know theres no rain or weather changes in GPL.

> > But why?
> > Wahts the reason?
> > (performance, graficengine, something else?)

> > Servus
> > Andreas

> > http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/uffinger/index.html
> > Die ultimativen DEL/DEB-Add-Ons fr NHL99

by **Thomas Fo** » Thu, 08 Jul 1999 04:00:00

> The day I play
> a racing game.. and at the start of the race... it is sunny, and by the end
> of the race, it is pouring rain... THEN I will be impressed.

You obviously haven't played F1 97.

As I said, you obviously haven't played F1 97. It even includes tear
offs!

As for Flight Unlimited, if the weather effects were anything like
they were in FU2, it was the best weather computers have ever had to
cope with. I could swear that when I touched the screen I felt
condensation.
<g>

Thomas Ford

"Please remove NOSPAM from e-mail address to reply"

by **David A. Ewin** » Thu, 08 Jul 1999 04:00:00

>It happens that it never rained during any of the races at the F1
>season of 1967...

Actually, it was wet and drizzly for the race at Mosport. Read the report
from Motor Sport magazine at
http://www.isanski.freeserve.co.uk/frameset.htm.

Dave Ewing

by **Steve Ferguso** » Fri, 09 Jul 1999 04:00:00

:>It happens that it never rained during any of the races at the F1
:>season of 1967...

: Actually, it was wet and drizzly for the race at Mosport. Read the report
: from Motor Sport magazine at
: http://www.isanski.freeserve.co.uk/frameset.htm.

: Dave Ewing

"Clark was using his usual car, 49/2, while Hill had the choice of 49/1 or
49/3; whichever he did not want would be used by E. Wietzes, a local
driver who knows the circuit well but who had not handled anything more
powerful than a GT40."

Yeesh! Imagine Joe Sports Car Driver being given the keys to Schumacher's
T-car at the start of the US Grand Prix next year. Wietzes' qualifying
time was within 9% of Hill's though.

Stephen

by **Martin Portm** » Fri, 09 Jul 1999 04:00:00

i can see how 'completely realistic rain' would be very hard to
implement, and require massive heaps of cpu, but what about realistic
oil/fuel spills?

wouldn't it be great if when following a lotus, its engine gave way,
dropped a lot of oil, and perhaps continued to leave a trail as it
limped its way back to the pits. marshalls with red/yellow striped
flags, lesser drivers (me!) taking no notice and spinning off into the
boonies.

one for gpl2 perhaps?

martin.
--

rec.autos.simulators

GPL: No Rain

GPL: No Rain

GPL: No Rain

GPL: No Rain

GPL: No Rain

GPL: No Rain

GPL: No Rain

GPL: No Rain

GPL: No Rain

GPL: No Rain

GPL: No Rain

GPL: No Rain

GPL: No Rain

GPL: No Rain

GPL: No Rain

GPL: No Rain