rec.autos.simulators

by **ymenar** » Wed, 05 May 2004 09:45:02

NR2003 is 95% perfect with Truck and BGN physics, while those two Trans-Am
mode are quite effective.

F1C is a solid F1 simulation that could say with us a long time and will
only become better with time.

That GTR demo... great potential (when the *** will ISI care about
multiplayer? They have a strong enough game engine now for about any kind
of simulation and Simbin proves that)

For quality fun, LiveForSpeed2.

For arcade fun, Race Driver 2.

GPL'65 is good, not incredible but a good step from the original GPL.

Now if only some of them would have the quality of multiplayer that NR2003
has... it would be perfect. Who needs Racing Legends?

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by **Destro** » Wed, 05 May 2004 11:19:14

But where is a good rally sim?? That area is sorely missing. Rally
Trophy has too old of cars for my taste and really isn't in the same sim
vein league as GPL, GTR and F1C.

> NR2003 is 95% perfect with Truck and BGN physics, while those two Trans-Am
> mode are quite effective.

> F1C is a solid F1 simulation that could say with us a long time and will
> only become better with time.

> That GTR demo... great potential (when the *** will ISI care about
> multiplayer? They have a strong enough game engine now for about any kind
> of simulation and Simbin proves that)

> For quality fun, LiveForSpeed2.

> For arcade fun, Race Driver 2.

> GPL'65 is good, not incredible but a good step from the original GPL.

> Now if only some of them would have the quality of multiplayer that NR2003
> has... it would be perfect. Who needs Racing Legends?

by **Mike Beaucham** » Wed, 05 May 2004 12:13:10

Agreed, a modern rally sim is DESPERATELY missing. I fired up Rally Trophy a
few days ago for the first time in a while, and I'm still impressed with it.
I really wish they'd just make a modern WRC sim. I guess I'll just wait for
Richard burns Rally..

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http://www.racesimcentral.net/ - custom electro-theremins and stuff.
http://www.racesimcentral.net/ - mike's personal site.

> But where is a good rally sim?? That area is sorely missing. Rally
> Trophy has too old of cars for my taste and really isn't in the same sim
> vein league as GPL, GTR and F1C.

> > NR2003 is 95% perfect with Truck and BGN physics, while those two
Trans-Am
> > mode are quite effective.

> > F1C is a solid F1 simulation that could say with us a long time and will
> > only become better with time.

> > That GTR demo... great potential (when the *** will ISI care about
> > multiplayer? They have a strong enough game engine now for about any
kind
> > of simulation and Simbin proves that)

> > For quality fun, LiveForSpeed2.

> > For arcade fun, Race Driver 2.

> > GPL'65 is good, not incredible but a good step from the original GPL.

> > Now if only some of them would have the quality of multiplayer that
NR2003
> > has... it would be perfect. Who needs Racing Legends?

by **Damien Evan** » Wed, 05 May 2004 12:14:44

Richard Burns Rally looks fairly promising. Some of the preview videos look
a little bit iffy but hopefully it will deliver. The developers are at
least attempting to produce a rally game with great physics.

by **Jason Moy** » Wed, 05 May 2004 13:46:02

On Mon, 3 May 2004 20:45:02 -0400, "ymenard"

>NR2003 is 95% perfect with Truck and BGN physics, while those two Trans-Am
>mode are quite effective.

>F1C is a solid F1 simulation that could say with us a long time and will
>only become better with time.

>That GTR demo... great potential (when the *** will ISI care about
>multiplayer? They have a strong enough game engine now for about any kind
>of simulation and Simbin proves that)

>For quality fun, LiveForSpeed2.

>For arcade fun, Race Driver 2.

>GPL'65 is good, not incredible but a good step from the original GPL.

Don't forget Netkar!! I have a strong suspicion that the next few
versions (as well as the 1977 F1 Sim that's using the Netkar engine)
are going to turn some heads.

Jason

by **Brent Burt** » Wed, 05 May 2004 14:58:08

|
| Don't forget Netkar!! I have a strong suspicion that the next few
| versions (as well as the 1977 F1 Sim that's using the Netkar engine)
| are going to turn some heads.

Netkar is very good. Where is more information/rumors about this
'77 F1 sim based on Netkar?

thx

by **Andrew MacPhers** » Wed, 05 May 2004 18:18:00

> But where is a good rally sim??

I rediscovered SODA/Gripped Racing the other day, installed on an old HD I
plugged into a USB enclosure. That code was superb for its day, and the
handling still gives a good enough impression of realistically handling
vehicles in an off road environment when you sit back and watch the AI
driving. That would have been a great product to build a decent rally sim
onto.

Andrew McP

by **Andrew MacPhers** » Wed, 05 May 2004 18:18:00

> Who needs Racing Legends?

Well, I'll have it as well if you don't mind :-) But you're right, cars
certainly aren't going out of fashion, and sims reflect that.

Andrew McP

by **Sting3** » Thu, 06 May 2004 00:48:14

What sim are you talking about Andrew? (im just not sure...) "SODA/Gripped
Racing"

Would that be the SODA off road released by sierra or papy back when? I
still have the CD around here, saw it when I was moving stuff, but without a
rendition card, I figured no way hozay in playing with it. What did you
attempt to play it on, machine wise?

>> But where is a good rally sim??

> I rediscovered SODA/Gripped Racing the other day, installed on an old
> HD I plugged into a USB enclosure. That code was superb for its day,
> and the handling still gives a good enough impression of
> realistically handling vehicles in an off road environment when you
> sit back and watch the AI driving. That would have been a great
> product to build a decent rally sim onto.

> Andrew McP

by **Andrew MacPhers** » Thu, 06 May 2004 04:58:00

> What did you attempt to play it on, machine wise?

Runs perfectly for me on a WinXP/AMD1700MHz/512Mb/9800se machine. And yes
it's *that* SODA (released as Gripped Off Road Championship over here).

Andrew McP

by **Ed Solhei** » Thu, 06 May 2004 07:19:04

Visited 'Sierra' lately Frankie?

I count 200 servers and 200 drivers - If you're really lucky, you'll find
one roadcourse race with a decent field.

:(

--
ed_

by **Dave Henri** » Thu, 06 May 2004 11:11:40

Yes, I fired it up about a year ago...The NON3d windows version still
works great. The Force Feedback is for a codec that is not used anymore so
that portion of the program is useless...unless you have one of the very
very early FF wheels.

dave henrie

by JP » Fri, 07 May 2004 06:04:23

Actually, it was papy fanboys like yourself who were crying after they
announced they were out of the business. Most folks already knew it wasn't
dead.

- Show quoted text -

by **Haqsa** » Fri, 07 May 2004 11:01:45

Plenty of road course leagues though. Not all of them race through Sierra,
many are private.

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