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:) Fame at last....!!

On the P-Pro question, I honestly don't know. I've had a couple of P-
Pros, but I haven't done testing, overclocking or performance
comparisons to anything like the extent I've done on 386, 486 and
Pentium systems.

What I can say is, a P-Pro is certainly not the only option for GP2.
With the limited market pick-up of the P-Pro, Intel have just launched
the P-200, which is something they had no intention of doing a few
months ago. With Intel guaranteeing 200Mhz performance from their chips,
you can bet there's more to come from the Pentium range. With S-DRAM
allowing motherboard speeds up to 75Mhz or more, expect a triple clocked
P-225 running on a 75mhz motherboard - now THAT would seriously shift
GP2, especially if the PCI components operated at 37.5Mhz.

Moving aside from Intel's plans, we saw on the 486 how Cyrix, AMD, STM
and others developed the 486 market long after Intel had moved to the
Pentium. Even if Intel do desert the Pentium and the Pro proves to be a
poor option for GP2, expect the other manufacturers to extend their
"Pentium" range to fill the gap.

As long as there's a gap in the market for this, the huge number of
games fans needing CPUs to run 16/32-bit code as fast as possible will
ensure someone supplies the hardware (and cheaply too in order to
undercut the Pro).

No worries!

Cheers,
John

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BTW, does anyone know how much hard disk space this game is going to take up? I need
to know in order to take stock of my drive space in preparation for this game.
Thanks,   RB
Remember that racecar is racecar spelled backward.
Busch Motorsports

Your choice.

The full install takes up 60Mb (!!), but you can make a minimum install
of 10-ish Mb and run the majority from CD. For the sake of speed, I've
got a couple of hundred Mb cleared in anticipation.... :)

Cheers!
John

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Playstation                           $200  ($199 actual)
Mad Katz Wheel & Pedals:    $70
Psygnosis' F1 Game:             $60
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                                            $330

You also can buy Electronic Arts' Andretti Racing 97, Need for Speed
and other racing games.

Randy

Hello!
I would like for someone to send me (if possible), all the car setings
for all the tracks in Nascar Racing.
I do not know anything about that stuff.
I would really like your help!
Thank you.

Hiya m8

Check out the pits web site.  The address is on my web page(address at
bottom in sig).  But when u click on the link you will have to delete the
index.html bit to accsess site.

Cya
The answers are there.  You just have to know where to look...
Check out my web page for all your links to F1GP,Indycar,ICR2,Nascar and
X-Files.
Do it know : http://members.aol.com/ARobe85580/home.html

Select Garage from the menu, then Options, then Load, then choose your poison.

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:> BTW, you may already know this or not, but an early version of the
:> game was reviewed by two British PC *** magazines. It scored a
:> massive 95% in both, and that was before car flipping and the like
:> were added. It's gonna be AWESOME I tell ya......
:
:>    /Spencer Stapleton/

:>  /London, Great Britain/
:
:
:
:Thats true and one of these mags was PCGamer (uk).  This is generally one of the most respected mags for
:gamers who know what they're talking about, and they aren't afraid to give a game a low score.  On a related
:point then, PCGamer say they have been recieving updated copies of GP2 every 3 weeks or so, and they say it
:has been getting better and better.  The funny thing is that they are saying that the game runs like sh*t off
:a shovel (i.e. damn fast) on their machines.  And they consider the office P133 a machine close to SkyNet

The infamous "review" of F1GP2 in February said "Any old 486/66 will
quite happily power the low detail mode". MPS's own web page now
claims DX4/100 minimum. Either Geoff Crammond has made the game
slower, or PC Gamer were talking bollocks.

This review was written when everyone in the know knew the engine was
unoptimised. MPS just fed a line to PC Gamer and they quite happily
reprinted it.

:powers :))  This would seem to concur with the fact that Crammond has programmed the basic game in machine
:code (or assembly or something - sorry it's been a hard day, hehe).  I reckon that all this talk like "Oh man
:my 64 meg P200 wont be able to run it fast enough" will disappear fast once the shrinkwrap version appears.  
:And I'm prepared to wait as long as it takes for Crammond to do the great job he always has done in the past.

MPS will be glad that some people are prepared. There seems to be
another two month delay now, so F1 on the Playstation is looking more
and more appealing.

I think a lot of the new features added are been driven by marketing -
will we see another delay for in-race commentary when one salesman
gets an idea after playing with Bizzare's F1?

:Peace...
:
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:(Steve)
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: 'Cos you're treatin' me like a rerun."
:       - Beck, Puttin' It Down.

Ken

: The infamous "review" of F1GP2 in February said "Any old 486/66 will
: quite happily power the low detail mode". MPS's own web page now
: claims DX4/100 minimum. Either Geoff Crammond has made the game
: slower, or PC Gamer were talking bollocks.

: This review was written when everyone in the know knew the engine was
: unoptimised. MPS just fed a line to PC Gamer and they quite happily
: reprinted it.

Er, no, they had a copy of the games, I saw the CD, didn't get my hands
on it though unfortch. That said, I guess they played it on a P90 or
suchlike. Anyway, looks like it'll definitely be here in a couple of
weeks so we'll soon see.
cheers,
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GP1 was programmed in Assembly, Geoff is one of the few guys to do
this as most of them program a C engine and work around this... so
surely GP2 must be programmed in Assembly too.

Just shows how shit the PC is at graphics if we're hoping for these
levels of fps. the Playstation with it's graphics accelerators are
getting 30fps flat out, the marketting BS reckons they've got '95,000'
textured, light sourced polys wanging around at a race.   We'll have
to wait for the grahics accelerators to get these levels of fps+.
Wish they'd set an industry standard chipset, 'cos some of us are
going to lose out buying these cards and finding out noones going to
suppot it.  My choice at the moment is the Creative Labs 3DBlaster
thingy, but the one that Papyrus are using sounds good too.... only
thing to do is wait and see who wins.

28/29th is what I hear.
Could be early though.... fat chance :/

PC Zone and PC/CD Gamer?  I read the PCZone one and it was definitely
reviewing a mid-stage beta - with official Microprose pics.   Just
think, we were all on the brink of thinking the game was definitely
coming out then... and at Xmas (with Geoffs comments on the WWW) and
at......... and at.........

Have you noticed the Xmas message is still there, is this some of
Microprose time paradox, perhaps tey still think it's Xmas.

James Long

I have a large collection of settings at my Nascar Setups page at
http://www.4w.com/pages/fox/nassetup.htm.
As many as 30 for places like Michigan, about 15 on average.

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