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Wow! rFactor PCC + Nordschleife 2007

MikeWh

Wow! rFactor PCC + Nordschleife 2007

by MikeWh » Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:46:31





>>>>> It's a great track, very thoughtfully laid out
>>>>> and finished.

>>>> Yea, if you have the energy and strength of purpose to memorize all
>>>> the damn turns.

>> (Weird. My news server didn't pickup your post. I saw it in Uwe's
>> response...)

>> I crossed that bridge long ago, back when GPL's Nurburgring was new and
>> fresh. It *was* difficult. The track map names defied memorization until
>> the nice folks here helped translate them to something I could relate to
>> in English. A bit of the folklore also helps you memorize the names, and
>> then you can label your memories of their shapes.

> How does knowing the names (in whatever language) help you getting through
> all the turns as fast as possible? I can drive a few dozen tracks in my
> mind, but I don't know more than 2 turns by name... =8^O

It's a fair question. Many tracks have fewer corners total than some
sections of the north loop. The names help to anchor things. Estoril versus
Barcelona, for example, or Kallenhardt versus Bergwerk. Or Esses, Carousel,
and Keyhole at Mid-America. You might categorize things differently. I can't
imagine *not* putting a label on it, even something made up. "The 2nd gear
hairpin leading opening onto the 4th gear left-right chicane." (But "Bit
Kurve" already sums that up for me.)
Ronald Stoeh

Wow! rFactor PCC + Nordschleife 2007

by Ronald Stoeh » Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:23:51







>>>>>> It's a great track, very thoughtfully laid out
>>>>>> and finished.

>>>>> Yea, if you have the energy and strength of purpose to memorize all
>>>>> the damn turns.

>>> (Weird. My news server didn't pickup your post. I saw it in Uwe's
>>> response...)

>>> I crossed that bridge long ago, back when GPL's Nurburgring was new
>>> and fresh. It *was* difficult. The track map names defied
>>> memorization until the nice folks here helped translate them to
>>> something I could relate to in English. A bit of the folklore also
>>> helps you memorize the names, and then you can label your memories of
>>> their shapes.

>> How does knowing the names (in whatever language) help you getting
>> through
>> all the turns as fast as possible? I can drive a few dozen tracks in my
>> mind, but I don't know more than 2 turns by name... =8^O

> Knowing the names would serve as a common point of reference I you
> wanted to discuss the track with someone.

Agreed, but that's "something completely different" to

 >>>>> Yea, if you have the energy and strength of purpose to memorize all
 >>>>> the damn turns.

Just curious
ronny

p.oxf..

Wow! rFactor PCC + Nordschleife 2007

by p.oxf.. » Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:01:46

ISI (or any developer)  really needs to include the track graphic with
named corners, accessible from the race menu, in the next version. A
small, doable and meaningful enhancement. I'm still a bit murky about
the Lesmos.

MikeWh

Wow! rFactor PCC + Nordschleife 2007

by MikeWh » Thu, 06 Sep 2007 04:15:01


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autodromo_Nazionale_Monza

Uwe Schürkam

Wow! rFactor PCC + Nordschleife 2007

by Uwe Schürkam » Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:24:37

(ADVANCE WARNING: what follows is an anal-retentive correction to an otherwise
excellent post by Mike, but we need to straighten out the local place
names ;-)


> Hatzenabach: slow chicanes leading up to...

"Hatzenbach" is the name, and they say you can only lose, but not gain
time here. Take things slowly, concentrate on the correct line and above
all, avoid throwing the hotlap away that you only just started (not as
big a problem as it was in GPL due to the "Kurzanbindung" and the much
shorter warmup lap you can do on the VLN / 24h layout).

Name is "Quiddelbacher Hoehe", it's fun keeping the car straight in the
air by modulating the engine torque using the throttle and engine revs.

"Schwedenkreuz". I think it stems from the 30-year-war or something.

"Fuchsroehre" (Fox tunnel / pipe)

"Adenauer Forst" Adenau is the town next to the section.

"Metzgesfeld".

"Wehrseifen": a "Wehr" is an artificial waterfall these days, but also
used to mean town defensive walls in the old days.

Also aptly named as "Grillkurve" (BBQ corner), a term which Laude
himself coined after the accident.

Wippermann ("mann" == "man" in German)

Bruennchen ("little well")

"Pflanzgarten"

"Doettinger Hoehe", "Antoniousbuche" ("Buche" is a tree), and
"Tiergarten" means "Zoo" (tea garden would be "Teegarten" ;-)

All the best,

Uwe

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