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Redline Pedals Questions

Damien Smit

Redline Pedals Questions

by Damien Smit » Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:50:58

Hi,

I've decided it's time to upgrade my sorry Logitech pedals to something
decent like maybe some TSW or Act Labs, but then somebody suggested some
Redlines.  One of the main problems with my Logis is the insufficient
throttle travel.  The other problem is just the general comfort level e.g. I
seem to use my big toes for braking and accelerating due to their design and
this gets tiring.  Anyhow, my questions are...

1. How long is the accelerator travel on the Redlines (compared to, say, the
MOMO or LWFF?)

2. Sure, the two spring brake pedal feels good but does it make you any
faster? ; )

3. How long is the waiting list?  (I guess only Nigel can answer this)  I'm
not prepared to wait much longer than 6 months..

4. Is it worth getting a clutch pedal?   I seem to be able to beat most
people off the line on VROC ; )

--
Damien Smith

ICQ: 77028579
F1 2001 rank: -11.512
"Nothing is work unless you'd rather be doing something else"  -- J.M.
Barrie

Goy Larse

Redline Pedals Questions

by Goy Larse » Wed, 24 Jul 2002 02:39:50


> Hi,

> I've decided it's time to upgrade my sorry Logitech pedals to something
> decent like maybe some TSW or Act Labs, but then somebody suggested some
> Redlines.  One of the main problems with my Logis is the insufficient
> throttle travel.  The other problem is just the general comfort level e.g. I
> seem to use my big toes for braking and accelerating due to their design and
> this gets tiring.  Anyhow, my questions are...

> 1. How long is the accelerator travel on the Redlines (compared to, say, the
> MOMO or LWFF?)

It's about as long as you'd expect it to be in a real road car or a road
car converted for racing use, I would think that a purpose buildt race
car would have a shorter throw, don't have a Logi wheel to compare with,
but the throw at the lower end of the pedal is about 3"

It makes you more consistent as the second sprin kicks in about the same
place as the brakes start to "bite", just before locking up, when
braking in Papy sims I can brake just at the point where the wheels
start to lock up 99 out of a 100 times, and I can lock/unlock the brakes
at will as it's much easier to modulate pressure than position, and once
the 2nd spring kicks in you need to apply a fair bit of pressure to move
the pedal further

Because of this you need to have the pedals against a wall or something,
and forget about using a sviwelling office chair with wheels, you'll
only find yourself haning onto the wheel to stop your chair rolling away
from rolling away from your desk :-)

You can tell Nigel has done a fair bit of laps in Papy sims, and you
won't be using your toes to brake anymore, unless you have really strong
toes that is

My brother waited about 6 months I think, that was a while back, don't
think Nigel has quite that long waiting list these days, seem to
remember him having one set avilable from his latest batch a couple of
weeks ago

Depends, the price difference isn't that huge, sooner or later you'll
think of that clutch pedal as a sound investment, and looking at the
video of Tom Pabst lapping Sears with a set of BRD pedals makes me wish
I could master the art of heel/toing as it certainly adds realism, I've
used it a bit in N2002 just for kicks, and it's kinda cool but hard to
get used to after years of sim racing without it, but if nothing else
it's kinda cool to use the clutch and a bit of throttle to get you
pointed in the right direction again after one of my many spins

This is something I hope they include in RL btw, "force heel/toing" as
anything else is totally unrealistic

Will you be faster with a set of Redline pedals, who knows, but they do
add a touch of realism and aids in the "suspense of disbelief" and
personally I consider mine to be one of the best investments I've made
since I started sim racing, they've lasted about 2 years or so now and
I've suffered 1 broken throttle spring in that time, I will have to
change the pots soon though, I get occassional jitters when calibrating
so I know they live on borrowed time

I have used a TSW briefly, and although I don't question the mechanical
quality of their setups and I kinda liked the wheel, the brake pedal
can't be compared to Redline, and if that is important to you, they look
a whole lot better :-), you may need to rearrange your seating position
though, my pedals are of the earlier design and I need to sit fairly
close to the floor as the pedals are at a very steep angle

(is this enough to earn my comission Nigel, or should I throw in a few
pics as well ?)

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

"The Pits"    http://www.theuspits.com/

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
--Groucho Marx--

Gerry Aitke

Redline Pedals Questions

by Gerry Aitke » Wed, 24 Jul 2002 04:21:11


> Because of this you need to have the pedals against a wall or something,
> and forget about using a sviwelling office chair with wheels, you'll
> only find yourself*** onto the wheel to stop your chair rolling away
> from your desk :-)

People who sim race while sitting in those kind of chairs need locking
up, IMO.
Have you noticed they sometimes post in here asking for suggestion on
how to stop their chairs from rolling away. Not to mention asking how to
fix wheels to tables!

They didn't play with construction toys as children, obviously.

Cheers

Gerry

Jan Verschuere

Redline Pedals Questions

by Jan Verschuere » Wed, 24 Jul 2002 04:42:44

Ooops.

Jan. ;-)
=---

Damien Smit

Redline Pedals Questions

by Damien Smit » Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:49:55

What a brilliant reply!  Much appreciated.  It sounds like these pedals
really are what I've been after.

Might have to swallow my aussie pride and order a kiwi product...  ; )

--
Damien Smith

ICQ: 77028579

Uncle Feste

Redline Pedals Questions

by Uncle Feste » Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:09:13


> Because of this you need to have the pedals against a wall or something,
> and forget about using a sviwelling office chair with wheels, you'll
> only find yourself haning onto the wheel to stop your chair rolling away
> from rolling away from your desk :-)

LOL  I once resembled that remark.  That's how I came to be a right foot
braker.  :-)

--

Fester

A lotta people poke fun, and that's alright
But when I start pokin' back they get all uptight
You can't cap with the master, son
So sit your ass down before I blast you one
                                              -- Kid Rock

Uncle Feste

Redline Pedals Questions

by Uncle Feste » Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:13:10


> People who sim race while sitting in those kind of chairs need locking
> up, IMO.
> Have you noticed they sometimes post in here asking for suggestion on
> how to stop their chairs from rolling away. Not to mention asking how to
> fix wheels to tables!

Bite me.  Real men brake with the right foot while the left blocks their
chair from moving.  It's a skill.  :-)

Didn't need to.  Had something bigger & better to play with.

--

Fester

A lotta people poke fun, and that's alright
But when I start pokin' back they get all uptight
You can't cap with the master, son
So sit your ass down before I blast you one
                                              -- Kid Rock

Schoone

Redline Pedals Questions

by Schoone » Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:11:26

Someone have the link to Redline Pedal, I seem to have lost it.


> Hi,

> I've decided it's time to upgrade my sorry Logitech pedals to something
> decent like maybe some TSW or Act Labs, but then somebody suggested some
> Redlines.  One of the main problems with my Logis is the insufficient
> throttle travel.  The other problem is just the general comfort level e.g.
I
> seem to use my big toes for braking and accelerating due to their design
and
> this gets tiring.  Anyhow, my questions are...

> 1. How long is the accelerator travel on the Redlines (compared to, say,
the
> MOMO or LWFF?)

> 2. Sure, the two spring brake pedal feels good but does it make you any
> faster? ; )

> 3. How long is the waiting list?  (I guess only Nigel can answer this)
I'm
> not prepared to wait much longer than 6 months..

> 4. Is it worth getting a clutch pedal?   I seem to be able to beat most
> people off the line on VROC ; )

> --
> Damien Smith

> ICQ: 77028579
> F1 2001 rank: -11.512
> "Nothing is work unless you'd rather be doing something else"  -- J.M.
> Barrie

TDRacin

Redline Pedals Questions

by TDRacin » Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:31:23

Here ya go:      http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm

--

Tim Doyle
TDRacin? Online
TeamECR Sim MotorSports
www.TeamECR.com
VRW Team Owner
www.VirtualRacingWorld.com


> Someone have the link to Redline Pedal, I seem to have lost it.



> > Hi,

> > I've decided it's time to upgrade my sorry Logitech pedals to something
> > decent like maybe some TSW or Act Labs, but then somebody suggested some
> > Redlines.  One of the main problems with my Logis is the insufficient
> > throttle travel.  The other problem is just the general comfort level
e.g.
> I
> > seem to use my big toes for braking and accelerating due to their design
> and
> > this gets tiring.  Anyhow, my questions are...

> > 1. How long is the accelerator travel on the Redlines (compared to, say,
> the
> > MOMO or LWFF?)

> > 2. Sure, the two spring brake pedal feels good but does it make you any
> > faster? ; )

> > 3. How long is the waiting list?  (I guess only Nigel can answer this)
> I'm
> > not prepared to wait much longer than 6 months..

> > 4. Is it worth getting a clutch pedal?   I seem to be able to beat most
> > people off the line on VROC ; )

> > --
> > Damien Smith

> > ICQ: 77028579
> > F1 2001 rank: -11.512
> > "Nothing is work unless you'd rather be doing something else"  -- J.M.
> > Barrie

Jeff Trite

Redline Pedals Questions

by Jeff Trite » Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:32:03

http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm

Jeff


> Someone have the link to Redline Pedal, I seem to have lost it.



> > Hi,

> > I've decided it's time to upgrade my sorry Logitech pedals to something
> > decent like maybe some TSW or Act Labs, but then somebody suggested some
> > Redlines.  One of the main problems with my Logis is the insufficient
> > throttle travel.  The other problem is just the general comfort level
e.g.
> I
> > seem to use my big toes for braking and accelerating due to their design
> and
> > this gets tiring.  Anyhow, my questions are...

> > 1. How long is the accelerator travel on the Redlines (compared to, say,
> the
> > MOMO or LWFF?)

> > 2. Sure, the two spring brake pedal feels good but does it make you any
> > faster? ; )

> > 3. How long is the waiting list?  (I guess only Nigel can answer this)
> I'm
> > not prepared to wait much longer than 6 months..

> > 4. Is it worth getting a clutch pedal?   I seem to be able to beat most
> > people off the line on VROC ; )

> > --
> > Damien Smith

> > ICQ: 77028579
> > F1 2001 rank: -11.512
> > "Nothing is work unless you'd rather be doing something else"  -- J.M.
> > Barrie

Schoone

Redline Pedals Questions

by Schoone » Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:49:04

Thanks Jeff, found it already though.
Your everywhere, just like me :)

Schooner2000
www.corl.ca - Canadian Online Racing League


> http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm

> Jeff



> > Someone have the link to Redline Pedal, I seem to have lost it.



> > > Hi,

> > > I've decided it's time to upgrade my sorry Logitech pedals to
something
> > > decent like maybe some TSW or Act Labs, but then somebody suggested
some
> > > Redlines.  One of the main problems with my Logis is the insufficient
> > > throttle travel.  The other problem is just the general comfort level
> e.g.
> > I
> > > seem to use my big toes for braking and accelerating due to their
design
> > and
> > > this gets tiring.  Anyhow, my questions are...

> > > 1. How long is the accelerator travel on the Redlines (compared to,
say,
> > the
> > > MOMO or LWFF?)

> > > 2. Sure, the two spring brake pedal feels good but does it make you
any
> > > faster? ; )

> > > 3. How long is the waiting list?  (I guess only Nigel can answer this)
> > I'm
> > > not prepared to wait much longer than 6 months..

> > > 4. Is it worth getting a clutch pedal?   I seem to be able to beat
most
> > > people off the line on VROC ; )

> > > --
> > > Damien Smith

> > > ICQ: 77028579
> > > F1 2001 rank: -11.512
> > > "Nothing is work unless you'd rather be doing something else"  -- J.M.
> > > Barrie

Goy Larse

Redline Pedals Questions

by Goy Larse » Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:45:03


> What a brilliant reply!  Much appreciated.  It sounds like these pedals
> really are what I've been after.

> Might have to swallow my aussie pride and order a kiwi product...  ; )

Woohoo, another commission in the bank, you won't be sorry though, the
pedals themselves are top of the line and Nigel is very service minded,
I had some special requests for wiring when I ordered mine, no problem
at all

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

"The Pits"    http://www.theuspits.com/

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
--Groucho Marx--

Thoma

Redline Pedals Questions

by Thoma » Wed, 24 Jul 2002 23:29:55

Hi Damien

Watch out for my review of the pedals. I will be posting it within a few
days on my web site.
www.thomasandamaya.com

I can reveal the conclusion here though - GO GET THEM!
Thomas


> Hi,

> I've decided it's time to upgrade my sorry Logitech pedals to something
> decent like maybe some TSW or Act Labs, but then somebody suggested some
> Redlines.  One of the main problems with my Logis is the insufficient
> throttle travel.  The other problem is just the general comfort level e.g.
I
> seem to use my big toes for braking and accelerating due to their design
and
> this gets tiring.  Anyhow, my questions are...

> 1. How long is the accelerator travel on the Redlines (compared to, say,
the
> MOMO or LWFF?)

> 2. Sure, the two spring brake pedal feels good but does it make you any
> faster? ; )

> 3. How long is the waiting list?  (I guess only Nigel can answer this)
I'm
> not prepared to wait much longer than 6 months..

> 4. Is it worth getting a clutch pedal?   I seem to be able to beat most
> people off the line on VROC ; )

> --
> Damien Smith

> ICQ: 77028579
> F1 2001 rank: -11.512
> "Nothing is work unless you'd rather be doing something else"  -- J.M.
> Barrie

Thomas Soerense

Redline Pedals Questions

by Thomas Soerense » Thu, 25 Jul 2002 00:24:47

Hi Damien

I uploaded my review - pictures will come later tonight.

have a look at:
http://www.thomasandamaya.com/thomasandamaya/hardware/redline_pedals_...

Best regards
Thomas


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