Nah, IBM was thinking ahead, I suppose...it does have a USB port, but at the
time, USB *** devices were all but nonexistent, especially when you're
talking about the guy cheap enough to have never paid more than $40 for a
steering wheel. ;) (Thrustmaster T1, and later a GP1, both from the Black
Hole at Incredible Universe...and more recently, when both of those wheels
bit the dust HARD, a Logitech Formula Force GP for $35 or so on eBay :)
Milhouse
>>So far.... It took about an hour to get a high 1:29 at Monza, and with some
>>changes to the setup a 1:20.94 at Kyalami just now (a week or so later).
> sigh....................
Regards, Ruud
It's not easy to blip the throttle with the Y-axis. Have you tried any laps
with damage turned on?
I use the throttle & thumb buttons for up & down changes on my Wingman
Force, but use split axis pedals for the brake/gas.
Nice going nonetheless.
Malc.
I'm one of these cheapies too :-) My Thrustmaster Nascar Super Sport wheel
was $29.95 if I remember right.
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I've run with arcade damage, but haven't tried full damage since I got the
joystick. Every few minutes the joystick suddenly stops being recognized, so I
like to spend as much time on the track as possible.
This happens with every game, not just GPL (even my own sim does this.)
Rebooting fixes it for a few minutes, but it gets frustrating after awhile.
GPL's habit of kicking me back to the desktop occasionally doesn't help either
:-) I wonder if it's the converter causing it...?
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It does sound like the sort of symptoms you'd get with a dodgy connection,
so it could be the converter. Try the Joystick in another PC & see if it's
the connector or the port on your laptop.
Good luck with the Joystick, it'll be waaaay better than a gamepad, but
you'll never really have complete control until you can separate your
throttle & brake. If you're this good now, think how good you'll get with
some pedals ;-)
Malc.
Damn - you're almost a half second faster than my Kyalami time... :-(
Eldred
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Eldred, if it makes you feel any better, I've been running Kyalami for the past
couple of days and have only barely run in the high 1:21's a few times with no
1:20's at all... Must have been a freak lap, not sure how it happened. In a
typical race, you'd probably beat me :-)
Todd Wasson
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I do have 2 USB ports on this laptop, so I'll try the other one and see if it
helps (hopefully!). I don't have another PC to try this with though :-(
I've read that a lot of you guys use throttle and brake at the same time. I've
tried a little trailbraking with the joystick, but the improvement for me is
usually trivial, if any at all. Usually just a very light touch of the brakes
will tuck in the nose a bit, but any more than this and I get too sideways I
think.
Watching Gregor Huttu's 1:17xx lap is really really interesting. He really
nails these corners. He turns in quite a bit earlier than I do and seems to
scrub off just the right amount of speed on the way in. The car sets perfectly
on the way in and stays rock solid through the whole turn. I can't see what
he's doing with his feet though. Maybe he's using brake and gas at the same
time?
Maybe a little shock tweaking would get me closer to this. Hard to imagine
going three seconds faster than my best lap so far! lol
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That's pretty much the definition of a Personal Best ;-)
Malc.
Hehe... Ok then :-D
Todd Wasson
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It seems so. People use throttle and brake at the same time as a sort
of live braking bias. Keeping the throttle on a bit while braking
seems to stabilize things for them.
In real life you might break your car a little too early for this too
work, but I believe the hotlappers do use this sort of approach.
Ruud van Gaal
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> >>It does sound like the sort of symptoms you'd get with a dodgy
connection,
> >>so it could be the converter. Try the Joystick in another PC & see if
it's
> >>the connector or the port on your laptop.
> > I do have 2 USB ports on this laptop, so I'll try the other one and see
if it
> >helps (hopefully!). I don't have another PC to try this with though :-(
> >>Good luck with the Joystick, it'll be waaaay better than a gamepad, but
> >>you'll never really have complete control until you can separate your
> >>throttle & brake. If you're this good now, think how good you'll get
with
> >>some pedals ;-)
> >I've read that a lot of you guys use throttle and brake at the same time.
I've
> >tried a little trailbraking with the joystick, but the improvement for me
is
> >usually trivial, if any at all. Usually just a very light touch of the
brakes
> >will tuck in the nose a bit, but any more than this and I get too
sideways I
> >think.
> >Watching Gregor Huttu's 1:17xx lap is really really interesting. He
really
> >nails these corners. He turns in quite a bit earlier than I do and seems
to
> >scrub off just the right amount of speed on the way in. The car sets
perfectly
> >on the way in and stays rock solid through the whole turn. I can't see
what
> >he's doing with his feet though. Maybe he's using brake and gas at the
same
> >time?
> It seems so. People use throttle and brake at the same time as a sort
> of live braking bias. Keeping the throttle on a bit while braking
> seems to stabilize things for them.
> In real life you might break your car a little too early for this too
> work, but I believe the hotlappers do use this sort of approach.
I brake & apply throttle simultaneously to adjust the line of the car quite
a bit under braking to keep the car stable, but I think the main benefit
comes from the ability to roll off the brake & apply the throttle more
smoothly (and vice versa).
You can do the same thing without split axis pedals, but the brake partly
cancels out the throttle, so you can't get the power on as early. I'm only
talking about very small overlaps here, btw. Partial throttle & partial
brake.
That's how it seems to me anyway ;-)
Malc.
