I don't think so, I don't think the average gamer has heard of Trans Am
Racing, much less want to play a sim of it.
The sport of F1 is much larger than the sport of Trans Am racing. Thus,
there are more people that would buy GPL over Trans Am racing.
Also, remember muscle cars is mostly an American thing, again narrowing the
market of the game.
>Also, remember muscle cars is mostly an American thing, again narrowing the
>market of the game.
Are you suggesting that GPL sold disproportionately higher in
Europe/UK than it did in the US? NASCAR is an "American thing", and I
bet Sierra/Papy wishes GPL sold a third of what NASCAR Racing 2 did.
I would expect the overseas market for Trans Am racing to be like
MGPRS2, Colin McRae Rally, or Toca2 are here... basically
non-entities.
I wanted to buy Toca2 based on the demo. Went to Electronics Boutique,
and they had it listed as "discontinued" in their computer before one
copy ever hit the shelf. I guess you have to buy it mail-order.
The US buyer can relate to the cars in Trans Am much better that the
cars in GPL. They are embedded in our culture.
If you don't want it where you're at, thats cool with me.
I think it'd sell enough here to be a success, just like the games I
mentioned above were for Europe.
Tim
I definitely agree that Trans Am would be much more regionally
popular. That's true of games/sims like Toca2, Colin McRae, or MGPRS2,
and I think they were all successful sales-wise.
I haven't seen any of them on the shelves here in the Eastern US,
although I'd snag any one of them immediately (heard MGPRS2 was in the
discount bins here as soon as it came out =8^/ ).
Tim
>I don't think so, I don't think the average gamer has heard of Trans Am
>Racing, much less want to play a sim of it.
>The sport of F1 is much larger than the sport of Trans Am racing. Thus,
>there are more people that would buy GPL over Trans Am racing.
>Also, remember muscle cars is mostly an American thing, again narrowing the
>market of the game.
And as far as Trans-Am being a American thing,so is Nascar.
Joel Willstein
F1 has a minimal following over here in the United States. Trans-Am Racing as
well as Can-Am racing were extremely popular over here in the US and the
Trans-Am Series is still racing to this day. The Can-Am series name is also
going strong today here in the US. Although they are American, there is a
market for a Trans-Am and a Can-Am simulation.
Remember to look at the sales of some of the F1 simulations. Did ok in Europe
but sold minimally here in the Unites States. The US is a very important
market for racing simulation software developers.
This is NOT an argument over the validity of F1 or anything of the such, just
that F1 is not nearly as popular over here in theUS as it is in Europe, etc.
NASCAR rules the roost over here in the US <G> Although they were before my
time (born in 71).. I love the Historic Trans-Am and Can-Am.
Scott
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All I was saying was that there is a small market of people who like Trans
Am racing in the States, and basicly only in America.
Nascar is an America thing, but it's much larger than Trans Am, and if
Nascar doesn't sell well over sea's, then Trans Am doesn't have much hope. I
realize that the US is the largest market for games, but alot of racing
games sell better over sea's, F1RS for example.
All I'm saying it's a very small market, and that I would be suprised if it
did well in terms of sells.
Again,I think you're missing our point. More true racing fans here know
of Trans-Am racing than care one way or the other about F1. TV coverage is
poor to none depending on the cable company you have. And the few F1 races
I've caught this year on TV has literally put me to sleep. Compare that to
the lap by lap race action at the latest Trans-Am race at Mosport. I was
glued to my chair the whole time.
Auto sim producers realize that different forms of racing are popular
in different countries,and that no series rules the roost. This certainly is
a problem that they must over come by producing sims that will sell well in
their targeted markets,and markets are the key.
I'm still convinced that if Papyrus made didn't make gpl but took the
physics engine and produced at top flight Cart sim,it would have sold 10
fold.
Joel Willstein
Really, I have never seen a Trans Am race on TV. I live in the US. I do have
to go out of my way to watch F1 racing though.
I guess that means I'm not a true racing fan, but that's kinda what I was
getting at anyway. There are a lot of people who don't know what Trans Am
racing is all about (myself included). Most every body has heard of F1
though.
Dave
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buzard
> >I reckon if you could adjust AI strength and, more significantly, race
> >seasons in the lower classes there would have been a -lot- more sales. Not
> >least of all because reviewers would have had a less hard time with it and
> >wouldn't have scared so many people off. Of course, the main reason it
> didn't
> >sell so well was because it didn't have a tasty NASCAR/F1/CART licence.
> Damn
> >shame, really, as it more than likely means there'll not be a GPL 2.
> >N3 on hold, TAR canned, is GPL the last of breed?
> >Mark
> I'm wondering if GT Interactive or whomever had the TAR project, got wind
> of the GPL sales figures, then took a look at the supposedly "real as GPL"
> Trans Am project and just pulled the plug....Anyone?
> dave henrie
BTW the lack of exitement in this years F1 races is Bernie Ecclestone's
fault not the cars or drivers or whatever. All you've really convince me of
is that you are not a true fan of F1. I was 16 in 1967 and CAN-AM was hot
and TRANS-AM was just getting started, but for me once and always F1 will be
king.
snip.... the few F1 races
