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by **Warren 'Llama' Ern** » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00

All,

I have a non-automotive project going that requires a front bucket seat.
OK, I'm building a mini-cockpit for some of my driving and flying
computer games. So I'm a woodworking nerd.... ;-)

Anyway, it seems to me that a bucket seat from a wrecking yard would be a
good thing to sit on, rather than building something myself. But what to
get? My bottom only knows what I have sat in in the past.

I was initially thinking about a Mazda RX7 drivers seat from 1983 or so,
because it had lumbar, front AND rear height, and bolster adjustment.

But perhaps someone knows of a really truly great drivers seat I should
be looking for instead?

Assuming I find one that is in good shape and doesn't smell bad ;-), how
do I remove it from a car? How much should I expect to pay for an old
bucket seat?

Another thought: didn't 1989 RX7 convertable and Pontiac Fiero seats have
speakers in the headrests? That might be useful. Any other cars have this
feature?

Virtually,
Warr

by **DLK** » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00

I got mine out of a plymouth (?) laser. It doesn't have lumbar but does
recline. I like it very much. I paid $40.

They are usually bolted to the floor pan with four bolts. You need to slide
the seat forward and back to get at the bolts. They may also have plastic
trim covering them up.

Another tip: Get the passenger side seat they have much less wear.

Dave.

> All,

> I have a non-automotive project going that requires a front bucket seat.
> OK, I'm building a mini-cockpit for some of my driving and flying
> computer games. So I'm a woodworking nerd.... ;-)

> Anyway, it seems to me that a bucket seat from a wrecking yard would be a
> good thing to sit on, rather than building something myself. But what to
> get? My bottom only knows what I have sat in in the past.

> I was initially thinking about a Mazda RX7 drivers seat from 1983 or so,
> because it had lumbar, front AND rear height, and bolster adjustment.

> But perhaps someone knows of a really truly great drivers seat I should
> be looking for instead?

> Assuming I find one that is in good shape and doesn't smell bad ;-), how
> do I remove it from a car? How much should I expect to pay for an old
> bucket seat?

> Another thought: didn't 1989 RX7 convertable and Pontiac Fiero seats have
> speakers in the headrests? That might be useful. Any other cars have this
> feature?

> Virtually,
> Warr

by **Michael Barlo** » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00

> All,

> I have a non-automotive project going that requires a front bucket seat.
> OK, I'm building a mini-cockpit for some of my driving and flying
> computer games. So I'm a woodworking nerd.... ;-)

> Anyway, it seems to me that a bucket seat from a wrecking yard would be a
> good thing to sit on, rather than building something myself. But what to
> get? My bottom only knows what I have sat in in the past.

> I was initially thinking about a Mazda RX7 drivers seat from 1983 or so,
> because it had lumbar, front AND rear height, and bolster adjustment.

> But perhaps someone knows of a really truly great drivers seat I should
> be looking for instead?

> Assuming I find one that is in good shape and doesn't smell bad ;-), how
> do I remove it from a car? How much should I expect to pay for an old
> bucket seat?

> Another thought: didn't 1989 RX7 convertable and Pontiac Fiero seats have
> speakers in the headrests? That might be useful. Any other cars have this
> feature?

> Virtually,
> Warr

The seat I'm using is the passenger side out of a chevy Cavalier<sp>.
It has been great for me as far as comfort, however..

The legs/attachment brackets are a bit too long. If they were one inch
shorter I could have a good posture and the angle to the peddles would
be easier to adjust.

The Fabreic covering is another thing to look at, If it's vinyl or
leather, after a GP length race or a 100% NASCAR race, You'll be
sticking to the seat and end up with a good rash.

This seat only moves forward and back one inch. some times (going from
one sim to the next) I need to be a whole lot closer. Other times a
whole lot farther.

With this seat Each and every leg/bracket is a different length. So,
configuring the seat for a level seating arrangement is very tough.

After more then a year with this seat I now know it would be better to
get a custom race seat for comfort, and some how attach it to the
sliding (forward, back) mechanism of a regular passenger seat.

Here's the list to look for..

Fabric cover
Forward back movement length
The design of the legs
The length of the legs
Confort.
I'm sure others can help with the list.

Also consider a race seat.
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by **Ryan Jenkin** » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Try to find a VW or BMW in a yard with some Recaro seats... some of them
came stock with those, alot of times they were added on by enthusiasts...
very comfortable.. thats what i'd do, beats buying a new recaro seat (Big
$$$)

Ryan

>All,

>I have a non-automotive project going that requires a front bucket seat.
>OK, I'm building a mini-cockpit for some of my driving and flying
>computer games. So I'm a woodworking nerd.... ;-)

>Anyway, it seems to me that a bucket seat from a wrecking yard would be a
>good thing to sit on, rather than building something myself. But what to
>get? My bottom only knows what I have sat in in the past.

>I was initially thinking about a Mazda RX7 drivers seat from 1983 or so,
>because it had lumbar, front AND rear height, and bolster adjustment.

>But perhaps someone knows of a really truly great drivers seat I should
>be looking for instead?

>Assuming I find one that is in good shape and doesn't smell bad ;-), how
>do I remove it from a car? How much should I expect to pay for an old
>bucket seat?

>Another thought: didn't 1989 RX7 convertable and Pontiac Fiero seats have
>speakers in the headrests? That might be useful. Any other cars have this
>feature?

>Virtually,
>Warr

by **Spif** » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00

How about a fiberglass racing seat? They go for about $40, or $60-70 with
cover. They're the same seats you see at a lot of the sit-down arcade driving
games.

>>I have a non-automotive project going that requires a front bucket seat.
>>OK, I'm building a mini-cockpit for some of my driving and flying
>>computer games. So I'm a woodworking nerd.... ;-)

>>Anyway, it seems to me that a bucket seat from a wrecking yard would be a
>>good thing to sit on, rather than building something myself. But what to
>>get? My bottom only knows what I have sat in in the past.

>>I was initially thinking about a Mazda RX7 drivers seat from 1983 or so,
>>because it had lumbar, front AND rear height, and bolster adjustment.

>>But perhaps someone knows of a really truly great drivers seat I should
>>be looking for instead?

>>Assuming I find one that is in good shape and doesn't smell bad ;-), how
>>do I remove it from a car? How much should I expect to pay for an old
>>bucket seat?

>>Another thought: didn't 1989 RX7 convertable and Pontiac Fiero seats have
>>speakers in the headrests? That might be useful. Any other cars have this
>>feature?

>>Virtually,
>>Warr

by **John** » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00

82-83 VW GTI Has great seats cheep
or try some race seats 40 bucks
www.Summitracing.com
jr

by **Mark E. Moone** » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Go buy an ATR or the like, vinyl bucket at the local speed shop. The run 50
to 60 bucks, are quite form fitting, and have various colored covers
available. Then you'll have a real race car seat.

MM

> All,

> I have a non-automotive project going that requires a front bucket seat.
> OK, I'm building a mini-cockpit for some of my driving and flying
> computer games. So I'm a woodworking nerd.... ;-)

> Anyway, it seems to me that a bucket seat from a wrecking yard would be a
> good thing to sit on, rather than building something myself. But what to
> get? My bottom only knows what I have sat in in the past.

> I was initially thinking about a Mazda RX7 drivers seat from 1983 or so,
> because it had lumbar, front AND rear height, and bolster adjustment.

> But perhaps someone knows of a really truly great drivers seat I should
> be looking for instead?

> Assuming I find one that is in good shape and doesn't smell bad ;-), how
> do I remove it from a car? How much should I expect to pay for an old
> bucket seat?

> Another thought: didn't 1989 RX7 convertable and Pontiac Fiero seats have
> speakers in the headrests? That might be useful. Any other cars have this
> feature?

> Virtually,
> Warr

by **Ken Bear** » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Or, if you can't find one with Recaro's (a friend had them in his GTI 16V -
SWEEET ) - find one with the VW Sport seats. I have these, alas only in my
GTI and not at my computer, and they're very nice too. One nice thing, and
this may work very well for a "cockpit" seat - is that the seat angle is
adjusted by a wheel on the side and can be tweaked to just the right angle.
No adjustable lumbar, but it's a nicely shaped seat nonetheless.

You'll find these in Corrados, Golf GTI's and GT's, Jetta GLI's and probably
Scirrocos - and they probably put them in some Wolfsburg Editions too.

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Go #43 and #44!

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> Try to find a VW or BMW in a yard with some Recaro seats... some of them
> came stock with those, alot of times they were added on by enthusiasts...
> very comfortable.. thats what i'd do, beats buying a new recaro seat (Big
> $$$)

> Ryan

> >All,

> >I have a non-automotive project going that requires a front bucket seat.
> >OK, I'm building a mini-cockpit for some of my driving and flying
> >computer games. So I'm a woodworking nerd.... ;-)

> >Anyway, it seems to me that a bucket seat from a wrecking yard would be a
> >good thing to sit on, rather than building something myself. But what to
> >get? My bottom only knows what I have sat in in the past.

> >I was initially thinking about a Mazda RX7 drivers seat from 1983 or so,
> >because it had lumbar, front AND rear height, and bolster adjustment.

> >But perhaps someone knows of a really truly great drivers seat I should
> >be looking for instead?

> >Assuming I find one that is in good shape and doesn't smell bad ;-), how
> >do I remove it from a car? How much should I expect to pay for an old
> >bucket seat?

> >Another thought: didn't 1989 RX7 convertable and Pontiac Fiero seats have
> >speakers in the headrests? That might be useful. Any other cars have this
> >feature?

> >Virtually,
> >Warr

by **Robert Grave** » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00

I've had 3 VW so far,(Scirocco, Golf and Jetta) and they have IMHO the best
seats, even the non-Recaro ones. They are firm, yet comfortable for hours,
and they are also adjustable for height.

> 82-83 VW GTI Has great seats cheep
> or try some race seats 40 bucks
> www.Summitracing.com
> jr

by **Jeff Eilan** » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00

I got mine out of a 1998 Chrysler , cloth, lumbar, front and rear movement
of the chair and adjustable back with head rest, I mounted it on 3 2x4's
stacked with a 1" shim at the front to give the entire seat that laid back
effect, I gave 10 bucks for the seat and picked the lumber up at a new home
job site(scraps about 2' in length), I then drilled pilot holes and screwed
1/4"x5" lag bolts in the existing front slide rail mount, and 1/4"x 2" lag
bolts in the rear, it took me about 30 minutes to put it all together, it's
sets better than my Camaro does :-)

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> All,

> I have a non-automotive project going that requires a front bucket seat.
> OK, I'm building a mini-cockpit for some of my driving and flying
> computer games. So I'm a woodworking nerd.... ;-)

> Anyway, it seems to me that a bucket seat from a wrecking yard would be a
> good thing to sit on, rather than building something myself. But what to
> get? My bottom only knows what I have sat in in the past.

> I was initially thinking about a Mazda RX7 drivers seat from 1983 or so,
> because it had lumbar, front AND rear height, and bolster adjustment.

> But perhaps someone knows of a really truly great drivers seat I should
> be looking for instead?

> Assuming I find one that is in good shape and doesn't smell bad ;-), how
> do I remove it from a car? How much should I expect to pay for an old
> bucket seat?

> Another thought: didn't 1989 RX7 convertable and Pontiac Fiero seats have
> speakers in the headrests? That might be useful. Any other cars have this
> feature?

> Virtually,
> Warr

by **Kyle Ha** » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00

87' to 91' BMW Recaro .. 325is or M3...

KGH

by **Matt Harpe** » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Mid to late 80's Toyota Supra! Awesome, comfortable, and has lumbar,
adjustable headrest, etc, etc.
I used to own a 1982 Supra and drove it some 6 hours at a time while on road
trips. I have a bad back and it was never aggravating to my injuries. They
come in cloth and leather.
A while back I saw a post that had a pic attached to it of a rollbar set up
with a Recarro bucket, 5 point harness, etc. The file was called
virtrace.jpg, anyone have a copy of it still? Great job!! I have been
looking into building one. The cheapest way I found to do it, is from
muffler pipe. Just get the local muffler shop to bend it for you, then just
weld it together. You don;t need a fancy welder, just an Oxy/Acetalene <sp>
setup and some baling wire.

Matt Harper

by **Douglas S. Hillma** » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Any 70's Firebird seat (and probably Camaro's too - but
I wouldn't be caught dead putting my ass in a Camaro) is
by far the most comfortable I've spent any time in.
Unfortunately they don't have the adjustability of today's
performance seats, but I think that they maybe just made
'em a little better in the first place to make up for that lack.

The DEEPLY padded vinyl seat out of my '76 455 T/A was
my favorite after I added a cloth seat cover.

The seat in my '88 Mustang is bearable, but that's about
it. Even with thigh, lumbar, and side bolsters it's never quite
perfect.

As several folks have suggested, you can get a fiberglass
racing seat for about the same price you'll pay for a car
seat from a junkyard. I bought a slightly large one for my
Jeep and padded it with thick foam *** under a padded
seat cover. Feels pretty nice.

-dobe-

by **Barton Spencer Brow** » Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Here's a source for inexpensive fiberglass racing seats:

http://www.pape-ent.com/seats/index.html

by **Ken Bear** » Sun, 07 Nov 1999 04:00:00

My Dad had a '84 Supra, those were great seats :-)

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Go #43 and #44!

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