rec.autos.simulators

GP, Indy, Nascar have been done time and time again - and frankly,
while I loved Indycar and Nascar, I was really shocked and annoyed
to see that Papyrus, et al were only doing remakes (GP2, Indy2, Nascar2)
rather than breaking new ground.

Take something like Need for Speed or Sega Rally. Give it adjustability
similar to the Papyrus games (maybe a little more streamlined). Put
in the physics and allow for spectacular crash damage (wrapping a car
around a tree/post?) lots of oversteer/drift, big wheel travel,
maybe some extra goodies like bitmapped sprite splashing through
water crossings etc. (Maybe careening into the spectators ;) and
some imaginative circuit tracks and you have a game that really is
all kinds of wild fun, but still requires the same concentration and
deliberate driving skill of a typical race game. A winner for sure!

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Thomas Heineman

Enzo friend... while perhaps you don't speak for everyone, you certainly speak for me!
I don't have NFS and I didn't know there was a rally track on it, but I go to the RAC Rally every year
and the sport totally kicks arse. I would love to fly through a city, or a forest, or even snow covered
plains in a high-powered Subaru Impreza, tackling watersplashes and jumps in full 3D glory. With the
added bonus of a T2 wheel you can't go wrong!!!!
So, someone, please make this game, for me!!!

PS. I heard a rumour that Europress were working on a follow-up to Rally [based on the RAC Rally of
Britain] and that it would be in 3D. Let's hope that, if this is true, it will run and play a lot better
than the prequel!
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haven fun racen: -}

Add my name to the list, guys.  While I was in Florida a month ago
visiting a friend, we went to Mouse World where I drove a Rally game,
and it was great!  The thing kept yelling at me to use the brake, but I
just let up off the gas for an instant (we don't need no stinking
brakes!) and mashed it back down and kept on goin'.  It was extremely
exciting!  I could really go for something like that for the PC.

Ron {Buckster Express}-------->

        I'm a big fan of your games, and also a professionnal co-driver in the
Canada rally. I'm writing you this message to suggest you to create  rally game. No
one as yet made a real good rally simulator. In rally first of all, you never race
with somebody else on the stages, you race against time and car break down..I think
what makes rallying so good is that you need to be a artist of controling a car to be
a good driver..And if you never add been in the co-pilote seats let me tell you that
it can be a very fast tripp. Going in a road at 110mph when 25% of the time the car is
not touching the ground and the road is so narrow that the branch of the trees  touch
the car, this is real speed and e***ment for me.

     Rally is not just about a pilot and is fastest laps. rally is a race against
time, and hell of a good team work. This is what it makes it so good. The pilot keeps
the cars from breaking down and turn in the corners the fastest possible, and the
co-driver makes sure the official time does not fool you and tells the driver were to
turn and how fast...

     I have tought about it and I would exactly know how to make a good rally
simulator....a very realism game...The only probleme with rallying is that you cannot
put 150000 people on stands along the roads and make them wait 15 minute to see a car
going by...I think that is why rallying is not that popular..

        Any Comments!!!

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Eric Leblanc.....
Team ZETA

Home Page: http://www.racesimcentral.net/~info46/

I'm sure that the folks at EA Canada (Pioneer, the makers of Need for Speed) could whip
up a *really* good rally simulator in very little time using NFS as the base.  A little
tweaking to the EAC RALY cheat code, and some new cars...of course they'd have to add a
navigator of some kind....that would be the hard part, but it would make it a real sim!

Perhaps they could add some race management to the game...win a couple of purses, buy a
new engine, that sort of thing...and car damage, flat tires, etc., would be a must.

They could even turn the cop with the shotgun into a tow truck driver to pull you out of
the ditch.. :)  Anyone at EA listening?  

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         Neil Yeatman, Ajax, Ontario, CANADA

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