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What a surprise!
West Racing says no Racing Legends beta this year
KMH noted that West Racing's site now said there would be no Racing Legends beta in 2002, despite an FAQ and an August forum post saying a product would launch later in the year. Some, like Jan Verschueren and David Buttery, saw the earlier statements as best guesses, while others called them empty promises. Most of the thread was mockery of the teddy-bear merchandise.
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"KMH" wrote...
> www.west-racing.com
>
> What a surprise!
Eh... not really, did anyone officially say otherwise before? -How long
would it take you and a friend to code a racing sim?
Jan.
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"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I was being sarcastic. Anyway from the Racing Legends FAQ: "We expect to
launch our first product later this year."
Posted by Tony West in the forum on August 23 responding to a question about
the above FAQ statement: "Yes, we are still on target"
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> "KMH" wrote... > > www.west-racing.com > > > > What a surprise! > > Eh... not really, did anyone officially say otherwise before? -How long > would it take you and a friend to code a racing sim? >I should faint, but I won't.
-Larry
"KMH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> www.west-racing.com
>
> What a surprise!
>
>
Seems to be a bit of back pedaling in their latest site news.
I hope the best for RL but expect the worst.
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> the above FAQ statement: "Yes, we are still on target"
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> > "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Z55i9.122647$[email hidden]... > > "KMH" wrote... > > > www.west-racing.com > > > > > > What a surprise! > > > > Eh... not really, did anyone officially say otherwise before? -How long > > would it take you and a friend to code a racing sim? > > > > I was being sarcastic. Anyway from the Racing Legends FAQ: "We expect to > launch our first product later this year." > > Posted by Tony West in the forum on August 23 responding to a questionIn article <Tn5i9.681$[email hidden]>,
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> I was being sarcastic. Anyway from the Racing Legends FAQ: "We expect to
> launch our first product later this year."
>
> Posted by Tony West in the forum on August 23 responding to a question about
> the above FAQ statement: "Yes, we are still on target"
>
An excellent example of the empty promises that I was referring to
yesterday.
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"KMH" wrote...
I'd missed the forum post, which sort of gives the hecklers a case, I guess.
I never took the original statement as anything but a best guess at the
time, however.
Jan.
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> <snip> > > I was being sarcastic. Anyway from the Racing Legends > FAQ: "We expect to launch our first product later this > year." > > Posted by Tony West in the forum on August 23 responding > to a question about the above FAQ statement: "Yes, we > are still on target""KMH" <[email hidden]> wrote on 18 Sep 2002:
> www.west-racing.com
>
> What a surprise!
Hey-ho. I don't see any reason to change my views on this: I think that
the Wests are honestly trying to get things moving, and I think that,
if they can, they'll produce a finished game in the end. But there's
been too much "crying wolf" (not, for the most part, by the Wests, but
by others telling us that "we expect some news in a couple of weeks" or
suchlike and then not delivering... repeatedly) for me to take things
on trust any more. Admittedly part of that was due to Empire's insane
total news blackout policy which meant that those expecting to give
news weren't allowed to - I won't be buying an Empire game in the
foreseeable future for that exact reason - but I still feel badly let
down. (As, I'm sure, do the West team themselves.)
I reckon that the odds are about 50/50 at present that Racing Legends
will ever be released - better than it was with Empire, but a long way
from a certainty. I don't think it's fair to rubbish the Wests without
any evidence, but neither do I think it's fair to rubbish those who ask
questions about why things are so slow.
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"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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From their FAQ:
When will it be ready?
We expect to launch our first product later this year. We will be
introducing a beta test programme for all those who cannot wait for the
finished article. More information on this will be available on our website.
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> "KMH" wrote... > > www.west-racing.com > > > > What a surprise! > > Eh... not really, did anyone officially say otherwise before? -How long > would it take you and a friend to code a racing sim? > > Jan. > =--- > >So from that you'd imply a beta long before year end and an actual products
at year end.
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website.
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> > "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Z55i9.122647$[email hidden]... > > "KMH" wrote... > > > www.west-racing.com > > > > > > What a surprise! > > > > Eh... not really, did anyone officially say otherwise before? -How long > > would it take you and a friend to code a racing sim? > > > > Jan. > > =--- > > > > > From their FAQ: > > When will it be ready? > We expect to launch our first product later this year. We will be > introducing a beta test programme for all those who cannot wait for the > finished article. More information on this will be available on ourI Still want my RL Shirt and hat though :-)
There isn't any chance that the Westies can't write a line of code, but they
own a Huge T shirt, Hat and Teady Bear Factory do you?
Just Wondering ;-)
Darf
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "KMH" wrote... > > www.west-racing.com > > > > What a surprise! > > Eh... not really, did anyone officially say otherwise before? -How long > would it take you and a friend to code a racing sim? > > Jan. > =--- > >At the time (July) I assumed as a lot of others did the beta would be about
2-3 months.
I'm not really whingeing, I totally support the Wests and will wait
patiently of some kind of release. But I do feel they set themselves up for
criticism a bit. I think it'd help to deflect pressure if they gave some
rough dates. They must have a rough idea when they will be ready with a
beta, and they can always change them as they go along.
"Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> So from that you'd imply a beta long before year end and an actualproducts
> at year end.
>
"Darf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I Still want my RL Shirt and hat though :-)
>
> There isn't any chance that the Westies can't write a line of code, butthey
> own a Huge T shirt, Hat and Teady Bear Factory do you?
> Just Wondering ;-)
>
> Darf
I see today that they took down the picture of the teddy bear. Gee, do you
think they figured out it wasn't gonna be the hit seller they fantasized it
would be?
"jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I see today that they took down the picture of the teddy bear. Gee, do you
> think they figured out it wasn't gonna be the hit seller they fantasizedit
> would be?
>
Whoops, my bad. That goddammed teddy bear is still there.
In article <h99i9.224130$[email hidden]>, "jon"
<[email hidden]> writes:
I was gonna say maybe they were SOLD OUT already...<g>
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>"jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:Y79i9.224044$[email hidden]... >> I see today that they took down the picture of the teddy bear. Gee, do you >> think they figured out it wasn't gonna be the hit seller they fantasized >it >> would be? >> > >Whoops, my bad. That goddammed teddy bear is still there. >
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> In article <h99i9.224130$[email hidden]>, "jon"
> <[email hidden]> writes:
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> >"jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> >> I see today that they took down the picture of the teddy bear. Gee, doyou
> >> think they figured out it wasn't gonna be the hit seller theyfantasized
Don't worry! There will be plenty of time to get your bear.
The bears that will be shipping first are not the final version of the Teddy
Bear but rather Beta Bears that will help to finance the production of the
final more plush and lifelike Teddys.
Elrikk ;o)
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> >it > >> would be? > >> > > > >Whoops, my bad. That goddammed teddy bear is still there. > > > > I was gonna say maybe they were SOLD OUT already...<g> > > Eldred>
> Don't worry! There will be plenty of time to get your bear.
>
> The bears that will be shipping first are not the final version of theTeddy
> Bear but rather Beta Bears that will help to finance the production of the
> final more plush and lifelike Teddys.
>
> Elrikk ;o)
hehe
and rumour has it the fur of the bears will be taken from the heads of
nepalese virgins, and they will wear jackets with gold-stitching and trim.
They might cost a lot, but it will be more than just a bear, it will be the
MOTHER of all bears.
*the above is untrue and does not reflect in any way anything*
"elrikk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
> Don't worry! There will be plenty of time to get your bear.
>
> The bears that will be shipping first are not the final version of theTeddy
> Bear but rather Beta Bears that will help to finance the production of the
> final more plush and lifelike Teddys.
>
> Elrikk ;o)
>
Will no doubt revolutionize the teddy bear as we know it.
"Alex Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> and rumour has it the fur of the bears will be taken from the heads of
> nepalese virgins, and they will wear jackets with gold-stitching and trim.
> They might cost a lot, but it will be more than just a bear, it will bethe
> MOTHER of all bears.
>
> *the above is untrue and does not reflect in any way anything*
>
>
Well if it will help speed things along, I will donate the fur off my ass,
and they can come personally remove it with their lips.....
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<[email hidden]> writes:
>> I was gonna say maybe they were SOLD OUT already...<g>
>>
>> Eldred
>
>Don't worry! There will be plenty of time to get your bear.
Like I GIVE a shit about some damn teddy bear.<g> I don't have any kids to buy
one for...
>The bears that will be shipping first are not the final version of the Teddy
>Bear but rather Beta Bears that will help to finance the production of the
>final more plush and lifelike Teddys.
LOL!
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"KMH" said:
> I was being sarcastic. Anyway from the Racing Legends FAQ: "We expect to
> launch our first product later this year."
Well... they got the teddybears!
:-)
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KMH wrote:
> www.west-racing.com
>
> What a surprise!
Does anyone know when this game is not coming out? I'd like to put
something on my calendar so I can know when not to expect it. Maybe I
should just circle every day in 2003.
Internet User wrote:
I suspect at some point in early 2003 there will be teaser announcements
that something is coming soon, this will go on for about 4-6 weeks, at which
point they will unveil yet another new website , and probably more news on
how much it will cost to be a beta tester when they get to that point.
I'd lay odds this product will never see the light of day, probably not even
in a beta form.
Don Burnette
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> KMH wrote: >> www.west-racing.com >> >> What a surprise! > > Does anyone know when this game is not coming out? I'd like to put > something on my calendar so I can know when not to expect it. Maybe I > should just circle every day in 2003.
"Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
> I suspect at some point in early 2003 there will be teaser announcements
> that something is coming soon, this will go on for about 4-6 weeks, atwhich
> point they will unveil yet another new website , and probably more news on
> how much it will cost to be a beta tester when they get to that point.
> I'd lay odds this product will never see the light of day, probably noteven
> in a beta form.
>
> Don Burnette
>
>
Well, if nothing else, they have given us what will forever be known as
"The Great Teddy Bear Debacle of 2002".
"jon"
Wake up and Join the EBAY generation folks. Can you imagine the vast
sums of money the E-auction addits will pay when they find out you have a
hat or teddy bear from a game that never existed? I'm suprised at all of
youse.
dave henrie
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> > I'd lay odds this product will never see the light of day, probably not > even > > in a beta form. > > > > Don Burnette > > Well, if nothing else, they have given us what will forever be known as > "The Great Teddy Bear Debacle of 2002". > >
Don Burnette wrote:
Uh oh.....you've don it now Don :-), Ellison will really hate you for
that one since you obviously haven't got a clue.....
Beers and cheers
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> > I suspect at some point in early 2003 there will be teaser announcements > that something is coming soon, this will go on for about 4-6 weeks, at which > point they will unveil yet another new website , and probably more news on > how much it will cost to be a beta tester when they get to that point. > I'd lay odds this product will never see the light of day, probably not even > in a beta form.Goy Larsen wrote:
Heh heh, let's just say when it comes to this I go buy gut feel :).
Wonder what kind of odds Vegas would put on it actually being released?
Don Burnette
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> Don Burnette wrote: >> >> I suspect at some point in early 2003 there will be teaser >> announcements that something is coming soon, this will go on for >> about 4-6 weeks, at which point they will unveil yet another new >> website , and probably more news on how much it will cost to be a >> beta tester when they get to that point. I'd lay odds this product >> will never see the light of day, probably not even in a beta form. > > Uh oh.....you've don it now Don :-), Ellison will really hate you for > that one since you obviously haven't got a clue..... >The great thing about this post is that it's timeless. It was clever of you
to not specify "2002". ;0)
<dives into the nearby shrubs for cover>
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"KMH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> www.west-racing.com
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> What a surprise!
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