For the "HARDCORE" simmers

Snipped from the Pits n2003 interview.. "For the hardcore simmers out there we have added a new multiplayer mode called "Hardcore Mode". If enabled, Hardcore Mode will force the use of cockpit view, smoke, windshield buildup, and the solar effects." 'Bout dam time too :) Question is will it *ever* get used with all the roof riders everywhere?.. Mitch

Snipped from the Pits n2003 interview.. "For the *** simmers out there we have added a new multiplayer mode called "*** Mode". If enabled, *** Mode will force the use of ***pit view, smoke, windshield buildup, and the solar effects." 'Bout dam time too :) Question is will it *ever* get used with all the roof riders everywhere?.. Mitch

"Mitch_A" > Question is will it *ever* get used with all the roof riders everywhere?.. > > Mitch > Let the wailing and knashing of teeth begin. dave henrie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 12/25/02

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> Snipped from the Pits n2003 interview.. > > "For the hardcore simmers out there we have added a new multiplayer mode > called "Hardcore Mode". If enabled, Hardcore Mode will force the use of > cockpit view, smoke, windshield buildup, and the solar effects." > > 'Bout dam time too :) > > Question is will it *ever* get used with all the roof riders everywhere?..

It will probably be used in leagues quite a bit.

Not all leagues, wont be used in ours unless the view component can be set separately. "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <Bc0P9.5081$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > Snipped from the Pits n2003 interview.. > > > > "For the hardcore simmers out there we have added a new multiplayermode > > called "Hardcore Mode". If enabled, Hardcore Mode will force the use of > > cockpit view, smoke, windshield buildup, and the solar effects." > > > > 'Bout dam time too :) > > > > Question is will it *ever* get used with all the roof riderseverywhere?.. > > It will probably be used in leagues quite a bit.

I wonder whether they've built in anti-cheat measures as well. Achim "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Bc0P9.5081$[email hidden]...

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> Snipped from the Pits n2003 interview.. > > "For the hardcore simmers out there we have added a new multiplayer mode > called "Hardcore Mode". If enabled, Hardcore Mode will force the use of > cockpit view, smoke, windshield buildup, and the solar effects." > > 'Bout dam time too :) > > Question is will it *ever* get used with all the roof riders everywhere?.. > > Mitch > >

Article says they have. "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:auij1m$7kga4$[email hidden]...

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> I wonder whether they've built in anti-cheat measures as well. > > Achim > > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Bc0P9.5081$[email hidden]... > > Snipped from the Pits n2003 interview.. > > > > "For the hardcore simmers out there we have added a new multiplayer

mode > > called "Hardcore Mode". If enabled, Hardcore Mode will force the use of > > cockpit view, smoke, windshield buildup, and the solar effects." > > > > 'Bout dam time too :) > > > > Question is will it *ever* get used with all the roof riderseverywhere?.. > > > > Mitch > > > > > >

Article says they have.

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> I wonder whether they've built in anti-cheat measures as well. > Achim > > Snipped from the Pits n2003 interview.. > > "For the *** simmers out there we have added a new multiplayer

mode > > called "*** Mode". If enabled, *** Mode will force the use of > >***pit view, smoke, windshield buildup, and the solar effects." > > 'Bout dam time too :) > > Question is will it *ever* get used with all the roof riders everywhere?.. > > Mitch

It was asked in the interview. The answer was basically that they have made changes to help reduce cheating, but he was unable to give any details, citing basically that the less the cheaters know about it, the better it will work. Glen Pittman "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:auij1m$7kga4$[email hidden]...

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> I wonder whether they've built in anti-cheat measures as well. > > Achim > > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Bc0P9.5081$[email hidden]... > > Snipped from the Pits n2003 interview.. > > > > "For the hardcore simmers out there we have added a new multiplayer

mode > > called "Hardcore Mode". If enabled, Hardcore Mode will force the use of > > cockpit view, smoke, windshield buildup, and the solar effects." > > > > 'Bout dam time too :) > > > > Question is will it *ever* get used with all the roof riderseverywhere?.. > > > > Mitch > > > > > >

thanks for the info, Schooner and Glen Achim "Glen Pittman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > It was asked in the interview. The answer was basically that they havemade > changes to help reduce cheating, but he was unable to give any details, > citing basically that the less the cheaters know about it, the better it > will work. > > Glen Pittman

No matter what measures are taken there will always be cheaters, that is a fact and no real way to solve it. I think most of the sim community is pretty good. I see no point in winning races by cheating as it does nothing for me to know I can only win that way. I'd rather come 10th with my ability than cheat to get 1st. in most league cheating isn't an issue as it is more a community than a pure completion thing. "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > says... > > It was asked in the interview. The answer was basically that they havemade

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> > changes to help reduce cheating, but he was unable to give any details, > > citing basically that the less the cheaters know about it, the better it > > will work. > > > > Glen Pittman > > > > > > The really sad part is that they can't completely prevent cheating, > sadder still, there will be people that find and use ways around the > anti-cheat measures, and even more sad, they won't be very willing to > address any changes that need to be made because Sierra won't let > them pump too much more time into the sim in order to fix/add things > that are lacking.

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> It was asked in the interview. The answer was basically that they have made > changes to help reduce cheating, but he was unable to give any details, > citing basically that the less the cheaters know about it, the better it > will work. > > Glen Pittman > >

The really sad part is that they can't completely prevent cheating, sadder still, there will be people that find and use ways around the anti-cheat measures, and even more sad, they won't be very willing to address any changes that need to be made because Sierra won't let them pump too much more time into the sim in order to fix/add things that are lacking.

"Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Bc0P9.5081$[email hidden]...

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> Snipped from the Pits n2003 interview.. > > "For the hardcore simmers out there we have added a new multiplayer mode > called "Hardcore Mode". If enabled, Hardcore Mode will force the use of > cockpit view, smoke, windshield buildup, and the solar effects." > > 'Bout dam time too :) > > Question is will it *ever* get used with all the roof riders everywhere?.. > > Mitch

Assuming it actually makes the final cut of course <g> John >

On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 17:36:33 GMT, "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Question is will it *ever* get used with all the roof riders everywhere?.. Hopefully Papy will setup at least one hardcore loop server. Jason

It doesn't matter how many anti-cheat measures they bulid in , some low-life will find a way to cheat around them. -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash Schooner <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Ki4P9.231209$[email hidden]... > Article says they have. > > "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:auij1m$7kga4$[email hidden]... > > I wonder whether they've built in anti-cheat measures as well. > > > > Achim > > > > > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Bc0P9.5081$[email hidden]... > > > Snipped from the Pits n2003 interview.. > > > > > > "For the hardcore simmers out there we have added a new multiplayer > mode > > > called "Hardcore Mode". If enabled, Hardcore Mode will force the use of > > > cockpit view, smoke, windshield buildup, and the solar effects." > > > > > > 'Bout dam time too :) > > > > > > Question is will it *ever* get used with all the roof riders > everywhere?.. > > > > > > Mitch > > > > > > > > > > > >

>I'd rather come 10th with my ability than cheat to get 1st. < I'll second that one. Bill Berry

"WillyB4120" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >I'd rather come 10th with my ability than cheat to get 1st. < > > I'll second that one. > > Bill Berry 1oth! I have to CHEAT just to SEE 10th! dave henrie

I KNEW IT! Bill Berry

> I'd rather come 10th with my ability than cheat to get 1st. > I dream of coming 10th :-)

there are people who want to know how fast they are, and then there are people who want others to think they're fast... <g> It's a matter of self-respect, really. Achim "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Wc5P9.231220$[email hidden]... > No matter what measures are taken there will always be cheaters, that is a > fact and no real way to solve it. > I think most of the sim community is pretty good. I see no point inwinning > races by cheating as it does nothing for me to know I can only win thatway. > I'd rather come 10th with my ability than cheat to get 1st. in mostleague > cheating isn't an issue as it is more a community than a pure completion > thing.

> > I'd rather come 10th with my ability than cheat to get 1st. > > > I dream of coming 10th :-) hmmmmm 10th...

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> On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 17:36:33 GMT, "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > "For the hardcore simmers out there we have added a new multiplayer mode > >called "Hardcore Mode". If enabled, Hardcore Mode will force the use of > >cockpit view, smoke, windshield buildup, and the solar effects." > > > >'Bout dam time too :) > > > >Question is will it *ever* get used with all the roof riders everywhere?.. > > > It depends on if the cockpit view remains an artificial handicap...

I roof-ride at roadies, but with the new POV adjustment, there may no longer be a need to do so. I'll be giving it a shot when the sim comes out.

Exactly. I'd like to be the fast person too but only if I did it myself. Cheating to be fast does nothing but help fragile egos IMHO. "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aup7d0$92sl3$[email hidden]...

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> there are people who want to know how fast they are, and then there are > people who want others to think they're fast... <g> > > It's a matter of self-respect, really. > > Achim > > > "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Wc5P9.231220$[email hidden]... > > No matter what measures are taken there will always be cheaters, that is

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> > fact and no real way to solve it. > > I think most of the sim community is pretty good. I see no point in > winning > > races by cheating as it does nothing for me to know I can only win that > way. > > I'd rather come 10th with my ability than cheat to get 1st. in most > league > > cheating isn't an issue as it is more a community than a pure completion > > thing. > > >