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Disgraceful N2003 preview

26 posts by 18 people · 05 Feb 2003 03:13 UTC - 06 Feb 2003 03:04 UTC

Anger at an inaccurate online NR2003 preview

Gene Penman linked a worthplaying.com preview of NASCAR Racing 2003 that criticised the graphics and keyboard controls. Most posters attacked it as full of factual errors, while a few argued it was fairly aimed at novices who lack a wheel. redTed mocked the group for getting worked up over an obscure review.

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Whatever man, not everyone is gonna think the same thing about every game. Even if his review is a little ignorant to you, it's a perfectly legitimate review for others with the same mind-set towards gaming. Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com "Gene Penman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b1pvhj$[email hidden]... > Guys, > > Have a read of this 'preview' of N2003 and look at the comments made bythe > general public. > >http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=8426&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 > > Let him have it. What a disgrace. > > massivechicken > >
"Gene Penman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b1pvhj$[email hidden]... > Guys, > > Have a read of this 'preview' of N2003 and look at the comments made bythe > general public. > >http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=8426&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 > > Let him have it. What a disgrace. > As many have already said whoever wrote that must be a complete and utter MORON!!! I wonder if he needs help breathing. -- callsignviper The truth is out there. You just have look in the right places and ask the right questions.
whats even worse is that his pro race driver review says "PRD is for racing fans who dont want to play more than 20 laps" and "PRD is the best racing game ever" Geez, where do they get this guy? I'll bet he drives some really crappy car and hates Manual gears!! GB "Gene Penman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b1pvhj$[email hidden]... > Guys, > > Have a read of this 'preview' of N2003 and look at the comments made bythe > general public. > >http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=8426&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 > > Let him have it. What a disgrace. > > massivechicken > >
No it isn't OK...it's full of factual errors. Marc "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:e900a.69053$[email hidden]... > Whatever man, not everyone is gonna think the same thing about every game. > Even if his review is a little ignorant to you, it's a perfectlylegitimate
Quoted text (16 lines)> review for others with the same mind-set towards gaming. > > Mike > http://mikebeauchamp.com > > > "Gene Penman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:b1pvhj$[email hidden]... > > Guys, > > > > Have a read of this 'preview' of N2003 and look at the comments made by > the > > general public. > > > > >
http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=8426&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
Quoted text (8 lines)> > > > Let him have it. What a disgrace. > > > > massivechicken > > > > > >
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 23:06:07 -0500, "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Whatever man, not everyone is gonna think the same thing about every game. >Even if his review is a little ignorant to you, it's a perfectly legitimate >review for others with the same mind-set towards gaming. I dunno, I expect people who preview games to at least read the included documentation before wasting multiple paragraphs bitching about missing features that aren't really missing. Personally I could care less if he likes/dislikes it, I just find the repeated factual errors to be pathetic. OTOH, his preview is about in line with every other review/preview I've ever read on that site. Jason
That's what I'm sayin'. If people can continue to read this guy's review, then they probably aren't gonna find the features either :) So, his review is relevant to those people. Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com "Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 23:06:07 -0500, "Mike Beauchamp" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Whatever man, not everyone is gonna think the same thing about everygame. > >Even if his review is a little ignorant to you, it's a perfectlylegitimate
Quoted text (12 lines)> >review for others with the same mind-set towards gaming. > > I dunno, I expect people who preview games to at least read the > included documentation before wasting multiple paragraphs bitching > about missing features that aren't really missing. Personally I could > care less if he likes/dislikes it, I just find the repeated factual > errors to be pathetic. > > OTOH, his preview is about in line with every other review/preview > I've ever read on that site. > > Jason
Oh come on, get your hand off it Mike. Did you actually read the tripe that guy wrote? "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:e900a.69053$[email hidden]... > Whatever man, not everyone is gonna think the same thing about every game. > Even if his review is a little ignorant to you, it's a perfectlylegitimate
Quoted text (16 lines)> review for others with the same mind-set towards gaming. > > Mike > http://mikebeauchamp.com > > > "Gene Penman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:b1pvhj$[email hidden]... > > Guys, > > > > Have a read of this 'preview' of N2003 and look at the comments made by > the > > general public. > > > > >
http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=8426&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
Quoted text (8 lines)> > > > Let him have it. What a disgrace. > > > > massivechicken > > > > > >
I was willing to read his review with tolerance and let him have his opinions. After all, when he starts talking about keyboard steering it becomes pretty clear where he comes from and which clientele he's writing for. When he then began to criticise the sound I thought yeah right, pure realism in this field isn't everybody's loaf of bread and I thought he's going to start talking about the in-car engine sounds for example. But then he says the crash sound is no good - ouch <g> I think we just need to accept that he was writing for a clientele whose requirements are very far away from ours (however mixed ours may be). But it would be good if such reviewers would define and describe their target group more clearly. The heat he's taking over on that worthplaying site is justified, as apparently, they put up a review that was absolutely not suited to _their_ clientele. Achim "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:e900a.69053$[email hidden]... > Whatever man, not everyone is gonna think the same thing about every game. > Even if his review is a little ignorant to you, it's a perfectlylegitimate > review for others with the same mind-set towards gaming.
I don't know. I read the review, and his thoughts on the sound / graphics issue not withstanding, I didn't think it was that bad. He says that you need a wheel to play this sim correctly, to have a chance at having a good time. You know what? He's right. When was the last time you recommended a sim to someone without adding..."Do you have a wheel? You really need to get a wheel to enjoy this sim...really cheap too!" And in the end of the review he flat out states that if you want a racing game this in not for you, move on...but if you wanta "GAME THAT TAKES THE SIMULATION ASPECT AS FAR AS IT CAN GO"...then this is the one. Not so bad, I think. Okay...let the flaming begin (ducking)
Ah, but in Pro Race Driver he also mentions the "rear windshield". Ummm..... what is a rear windshield, anyway? Maybe it's only on cars that go really, really fast in reverse. -- Slot Tweaks & Reviews www.slottweak.com "Ferrari_Corsa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Sf00a.70329$[email hidden]... > whats even worse is that his pro race driver review says "PRD is for racing > fans who dont want to play more than 20 laps" and "PRD is the best racing > game ever" > > Geez, where do they get this guy? I'll bet he drives some really crappy car > and hates Manual gears!! > > GB > > > > "Gene Penman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:b1pvhj$[email hidden]... > > Guys, > > > > Have a read of this 'preview' of N2003 and look at the comments made by > the > > general public. > > > > > http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=8426&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 > > > > Let him have it. What a disgrace. > > > > massivechicken > > > > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 1/10/2003
> > Have a read of this 'preview' of N2003 and look at the comments made bythe > general public. > >http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=8426&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 > > Let him have it. What a disgrace. >The really worrying thing is you saddo's getting all het up about some obscure online review of a game that will sell to the fans regardless of what the "journalist" types. His closing paragraph includes this quote.." All in all, Nascar 2003 Racing Season delivers heavily to hardcore simulation fans while leaving everyone else confused and frustrated. " What's wrong with that ?
"Race1530" wrote...
Quoted text (10 lines)> I don't know. I read the review, and his thoughts on the > sound / graphics issue not withstanding, I didn't think it > was that bad. > > He says that you need a wheel to play this sim correctly, > to have a chance at having a good time. You know what? > He's right. When was the last time you recommended a sim > to someone without adding..."Do you have a wheel? You > really need to get a wheel to enjoy this sim...really > cheap too!"
No, he doesn't say "This game needs a wheel to get the most out of it". He says "This game is crap because it requires a wheel to control." BIG difference, IMO. > And in the end of the review he flat out states that if > you want a racing game this in not for you, move on... > but if you wanta "GAME THAT TAKES THE SIMULATION ASPECT > AS FAR AS IT CAN GO"...then this is the one. > > Not so bad, I think. It's a cop out... the review should have started with that sentence and gone on to what makes NR2003 a great simulation or not. He starts of with a premise which doesn't apply to NR2003 and then goes on to lambast NR2003 for not living up to it. That's not reviewing, that's badmouthing. > Okay...let the flaming begin (ducking) Tell me when you're medium rare. <g> Jan. =---
jon 05 Feb 2003 20:20 UTC↳ reply to redTed#78633
"redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b1rj73$16q8j4$[email hidden]... > >All in all, Nascar 2003 Racing > Season delivers heavily to hardcore simulation fans while leaving everyone > else confused and frustrated. " >..."leaving them no alternative but to wreck tirelessly on every open server they can find so that no one else can enjoy it"...
redTed 05 Feb 2003 21:03 UTC↳ reply to jon#78443
"jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2ge0a.5768$pR.4150@FE06... > > "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:b1rj73$16q8j4$[email hidden]... > > > >All in all, Nascar 2003 Racing > > Season delivers heavily to hardcore simulation fans while leavingeveryone > > else confused and frustrated. " > > > ..."leaving them no alternative but to wreck tirelessly on every openserver > they can find so that no one else can enjoy it"... So you mis-read the entire review as well ? Sad. He was aiming all the points at novices to the genre, not you anoraks. Obviously, you want to keep the game completely to yourself and let no one else take part. It's always the same with you muppets. No wonder Papyrus won't be making Nascar 2004.
[email hidden] (Race1530) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted text (15 lines)> I don't know. I read the review, and his thoughts on the sound / graphics > issue not withstanding, I didn't think it was that bad. > > He says that you need a wheel to play this sim correctly, to have a chance at > having a good time. You know what? He's right. When was the last time you > recommended a sim to someone without adding..."Do you have a wheel? You really > need to get a wheel to enjoy this sim...really cheap too!" > > And in the end of the review he flat out states that if you want a racing game > this in not for you, move on...but if you wanta "GAME THAT TAKES THE SIMULATION > ASPECT AS FAR AS IT CAN GO"...then this is the one. > > Not so bad, I think. > > Okay...let the flaming begin (ducking)
I totally agree. We don't want dipshits like that showing up to our public network games. Let him and the other children that are more intrested in the virtual bending of sheetmetal play with their Playstations. D
Larry 05 Feb 2003 21:16 UTC↳ reply to redTed#78446
Red, If I ever need a Customer Complaint representative, I'll be sure to look you up! Larry "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b1ru7a$16a2l1$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (22 lines)> > "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2ge0a.5768$pR.4150@FE06... > > > > "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:b1rj73$16q8j4$[email hidden]... > > > > > >All in all, Nascar 2003 Racing > > > Season delivers heavily to hardcore simulation fans while leaving > everyone > > > else confused and frustrated. " > > > > > ..."leaving them no alternative but to wreck tirelessly on every open > server > > they can find so that no one else can enjoy it"... > > So you mis-read the entire review as well ? Sad. > He was aiming all the points at novices to the genre, not you anoraks. > Obviously, you want to keep the game completely to yourself and let no one > else take part. It's always the same with you muppets. No wonder Papyrus > won't be making Nascar 2004. > >
"redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b1ru7a$16a2l1$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (20 lines)> > "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2ge0a.5768$pR.4150@FE06... > > > > "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:b1rj73$16q8j4$[email hidden]... > > > > > >All in all, Nascar 2003 Racing > > > Season delivers heavily to hardcore simulation fans while leaving > everyone > > > else confused and frustrated. " > > > > > ..."leaving them no alternative but to wreck tirelessly on every open > server > > they can find so that no one else can enjoy it"... > > So you mis-read the entire review as well ? Sad. > He was aiming all the points at novices to the genre, not you anoraks. > Obviously, you want to keep the game completely to yourself and let no one > else take part. It's always the same with you muppets. No wonder Papyrus > won't be making Nascar 2004.
Lol. David G Fisher
When he stated you only have cockpit view and can only look left and right I figured he stopped at about a 1/4 lap because his keyboard was too hard to control :) "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:b1ru7a$16a2l1$[email hidden]... > > > > "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:2ge0a.5768$pR.4150@FE06...
Quoted text (16 lines)> > > > > > "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:b1rj73$16q8j4$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > >All in all, Nascar 2003 Racing > > > > Season delivers heavily to hardcore simulation fans while leaving > > everyone > > > > else confused and frustrated. " > > > > > > > ..."leaving them no alternative but to wreck tirelessly on every open > > server > > > they can find so that no one else can enjoy it"... > > > > So you mis-read the entire review as well ? Sad. > > He was aiming all the points at novices to the genre, not you anoraks. > > Obviously, you want to keep the game completely to yourself and let no
one > > else take part. It's always the same with you muppets. No wonderPapyrus
Quoted text (8 lines)> > won't be making Nascar 2004. > > Lol. > > David G Fisher > > >
Nothing wrong with that line. Lines like "Nintendo graphics look better" are what I can't understand, especially since he said he was running it at 1600x1200x32 with full bells and whistles at high FPS. "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b1rj73$16q8j4$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> > > > > Have a read of this 'preview' of N2003 and look at the comments made by > the > > general public. > > > > >
http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=8426&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
Quoted text (7 lines)> > > > Let him have it. What a disgrace. > > > The really worrying thing is you saddo's getting all het up about some > obscure online review of a game that will sell to the fans regardless of > what the "journalist" types. > His closing paragraph includes this quote.." All in all, Nascar 2003
Racing > Season delivers heavily to hardcore simulation fans while leaving everyone > else confused and frustrated. " > What's wrong with that ? > >
"Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GP00a.69061$[email hidden]... > That's what I'm sayin'. If people can continue to read this guy's review, > then they probably aren't gonna find the features either :) So, hisreview > is relevant to those people. Relevant to total morons you mean.
"redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b1ru7a$16a2l1$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (20 lines)> > "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2ge0a.5768$pR.4150@FE06... > > > > "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:b1rj73$16q8j4$[email hidden]... > > > > > >All in all, Nascar 2003 Racing > > > Season delivers heavily to hardcore simulation fans while leaving > everyone > > > else confused and frustrated. " > > > > > ..."leaving them no alternative but to wreck tirelessly on every open > server > > they can find so that no one else can enjoy it"... > > So you mis-read the entire review as well ? Sad. > He was aiming all the points at novices to the genre, not you anoraks. > Obviously, you want to keep the game completely to yourself and let no one > else take part. It's always the same with you muppets. No wonder Papyrus > won't be making Nascar 2004.
No, bogus "previews" full of blatant inaccuracies will do a lot to keep novices away from the genre. The previewer is a moron and any site that would employ someone like that doesn't deserve to have developers send them press copies. Kyle
Nope! I didn't even read it! I just comment on things randomly, as though I knw what's going on. :) hehehe Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com "Gene Penman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b1q5bc$[email hidden]... > Oh come on, get your hand off it Mike. Did you actually read the tripethat > guy wrote? > > > "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:e900a.69053$[email hidden]... > > Whatever man, not everyone is gonna think the same thing about everygame.
Quoted text (13 lines)> > Even if his review is a little ignorant to you, it's a perfectly > legitimate > > review for others with the same mind-set towards gaming. > > > > Mike > > http://mikebeauchamp.com > > > > > > "Gene Penman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:b1pvhj$[email hidden]... > > > Guys, > > > > > > Have a read of this 'preview' of N2003 and look at the comments made
by > > the > > > general public. > > > > > > > > >http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=8426&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
Quoted text (10 lines)> > > > > > Let him have it. What a disgrace. > > > > > > massivechicken > > > > > > > > > > > >
Larry 06 Feb 2003 02:57 UTC↳ reply to jwilson54#78538
I just read this so-called review. I'm convinced they guy didn't even install it. Larry "jwilson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2Gg0a.2345$[email hidden]... > When he stated you only have cockpit view and can only look left and rightI
Quoted text (20 lines)> figured he stopped at about a 1/4 lap because his keyboard was too hard to > control :) > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:b1ru7a$16a2l1$[email hidden]... > > > > > > "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:2ge0a.5768$pR.4150@FE06... > > > > > > > > "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:b1rj73$16q8j4$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > >All in all, Nascar 2003 Racing > > > > > Season delivers heavily to hardcore simulation fans while leaving > > > everyone > > > > > else confused and frustrated. " > > > > > > > > > ..."leaving them no alternative but to wreck tirelessly on every
open
Quoted text (19 lines)> > > server > > > > they can find so that no one else can enjoy it"... > > > > > > So you mis-read the entire review as well ? Sad. > > > He was aiming all the points at novices to the genre, not you anoraks. > > > Obviously, you want to keep the game completely to yourself and let no > one > > > else take part. It's always the same with you muppets. No wonder > Papyrus > > > won't be making Nascar 2004. > > > > Lol. > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > >
LOL :) "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GAj0a.69177$[email hidden]... > Nope! I didn't even read it! I just comment on things randomly, as thoughI
Quoted text (36 lines)> knw what's going on. :) hehehe > Mike > http://mikebeauchamp.com > > "Gene Penman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:b1q5bc$[email hidden]... > > Oh come on, get your hand off it Mike. Did you actually read the tripe > that > > guy wrote? > > > > > > "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:e900a.69053$[email hidden]... > > > Whatever man, not everyone is gonna think the same thing about every > game. > > > Even if his review is a little ignorant to you, it's a perfectly > > legitimate > > > review for others with the same mind-set towards gaming. > > > > > > Mike > > > http://mikebeauchamp.com > > > > > > > > > "Gene Penman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:b1pvhj$[email hidden]... > > > > Guys, > > > > > > > > Have a read of this 'preview' of N2003 and look at the comments made > by > > > the > > > > general public. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=8426&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
Quoted text (12 lines)> > > > > > > > Let him have it. What a disgrace. > > > > > > > > massivechicken > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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