It seems like people who dont use windshield buildup vs people who do use it
have a huge advantage when someone decides to drive around with a wrecked
engine. (as i found out today ;-) )
Will RASCAR use NR2003 hardcore mode?
A driver asked whether RASCAR would force NR2003's hardcore mode, since windshield dirt and smoke handicap some drivers. John Simmons said no: races would use the fixed fast setup and fixed weather, with drivers asked to switch off aids, because hardcore mode does not disable driving aids. Posters also established that sun glare was not part of hardcore mode despite what the manual said.
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"frederickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:JIF0a.24132$j51.12315@fe08:
> It seems like people who dont use windshield buildup vs people who do
> use it have a huge advantage when someone decides to drive around with
> a wrecked engine. (as i found out today ;-) )
>
> Yeah and they are probably KITE FLYERS too!!!
dave henrie
May sound stupid, but I am absolutely hooked on that dirty windshield.
"frederickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> It seems like people who dont use windshield buildup vs people who do useit
> have a huge advantage when someone decides to drive around with a wrecked
> engine. (as i found out today ;-) )
>
>
>
so am i :-) i try to get it dirty on purpose, and i wish it could get a
little dirtier
"jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:EPF0a.11394$yJ2.10160@FE04...
> May sound stupid, but I am absolutely hooked on that dirty windshield.
>
> "frederickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:JIF0a.24132$j51.12315@fe08...
> > It seems like people who dont use windshield buildup vs people who douse
> it
> > have a huge advantage when someone decides to drive around with awrecked
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> > engine. (as i found out today ;-) ) > > > > > > > > >In article <JIF0a.24132$j51.12315@fe08>, [email hidden] says...
> It seems like people who dont use windshield buildup vs people who do use it
> have a huge advantage when someone decides to drive around with a wrecked
> engine. (as i found out today ;-) )
No. We'll be driving the same way we did last season (at least for
now).
It will be:
Fixed setup (fast)
Fixed weather at 70 degerees, no wind, clear
Nothing forced on
We can't prevent it, but everyone should be driving with NONE of the
driving aids on except maybe clutch help (not all of us have clutch
pedals).
The only thing I don't like about Hardcore mode is they included Solar
Flares. That should have never been done. This option can KILL frame rates
if you are not running a high-end machine.
It's not a problem for me (at least I don't think it is), but I'm sure it
will be for some.
Larry
"frederickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> It seems like people who dont use windshield buildup vs people who do useit
> have a huge advantage when someone decides to drive around with a wrecked
> engine. (as i found out today ;-) )
>
>
>
Two things.
1) Solar Flare is NOT part of hardcore mode
2) Solar flare is a big hit if you are using AA or Open GL. So it can be
setup to be used. Granted most people won't take the time to figure it out.
MadDAWG
Well, I just read in the manual that Solar Flare IS part of Hard Core.
Larry
"MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Two things.
>
> 1) Solar Flare is NOT part of hardcore mode
>
> 2) Solar flare is a big hit if you are using AA or Open GL. So it can be
> setup to be used. Granted most people won't take the time to figure itout.
>
>
> MadDAWG
>
>
I run openGL and it doesnt hurt my framerates, but im pretty sure in
direct3d it did
"MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Two things.
>
> 1) Solar Flare is NOT part of hardcore mode
>
> 2) Solar flare is a big hit if you are using AA or Open GL. So it can be
> setup to be used. Granted most people won't take the time to figure itout.
>
>
> MadDAWG
>
>
A late change, apparently, due to the big FPS hit.
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Well, I just read in the manual that Solar Flare IS part of Hard Core. > > Larry > > "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Two things. > > > > 1) Solar Flare is NOT part of hardcore mode > > > > 2) Solar flare is a big hit if you are using AA or Open GL. So it canQuoted text (9 lines)
> > setup to be used. Granted most people won't take the time to figure it > out. > > > > > > MadDAWG > > > > > >>"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote
> Well, I just read in the manual that Solar Flare IS part of Hard Core.
Sometimes, things in development do change between the "Gold" date of the
manual and the Gold date of the actual software. That change was pretty
late iirc.
--
-- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard>
-- http://ymenard.cjb.net/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...
The hit occurs with either rasterizer if you have AA enabled, and worse in
OGL.
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> I run openGL and it doesnt hurt my framerates, but im pretty sure in > direct3d it did > > "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Two things. > > > > 1) Solar Flare is NOT part of hardcore mode > > > > 2) Solar flare is a big hit if you are using AA or Open GL. So it canQuoted text (10 lines)
> > setup to be used. Granted most people won't take the time to figure it > out. > > > > > > MadDAWG > > > > > > >Cool :)
Larry
"Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> A late change, apparently, due to the big FPS hit. > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:xZP0a.7165$[email hidden]... > > Well, I just read in the manual that Solar Flare IS part of Hard Core. > > > > Larry > > > > "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Two things. > > > > > > 1) Solar Flare is NOT part of hardcore mode > > > > > > 2) Solar flare is a big hit if you are using AA or Open GL. So it can > be > > > setup to be used. Granted most people won't take the time to figure it > > out. > > > > > > > > > MadDAWG > > > > > > > > > > > >No issues with Hardcore then!
Larry
"Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> A late change, apparently, due to the big FPS hit. > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:xZP0a.7165$[email hidden]... > > Well, I just read in the manual that Solar Flare IS part of Hard Core. > > > > Larry > > > > "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Two things. > > > > > > 1) Solar Flare is NOT part of hardcore mode > > > > > > 2) Solar flare is a big hit if you are using AA or Open GL. So it can > be > > > setup to be used. Granted most people won't take the time to figure it > > out. > > > > > > > > > MadDAWG > > > > > > > > > > > >Cool! No problems with Hardcore then!
Larry
"ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> >"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Well, I just read in the manual that Solar Flare IS part of Hard Core. > > > Sometimes, things in development do change between the "Gold" date of the > manual and the Gold date of the actual software. That change was pretty > late iirc. > > > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > >*IF* I had my will - we would use HC-mode.... but sofar I have no idea
what rules we should use.. as I've yet to get hold of a copyu of N2003 :-(
--
ed_
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$10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC.
"frederickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> It seems like people who dont use windshield buildup vs people who do use
it
> have a huge advantage when someone decides to drive around with a wrecked
> engine. (as i found out today ;-) )
>
>
>
"Ed Solheim" <edwins[ REMOVE ]@[ THIS ].no> wrote in message
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> *IF* I had my will - we would use HC-mode.... but sofar I have no idea
> what rules we should use.. as I've yet to get hold of a copyu of N2003:-(
use
> it
> > have a huge advantage when someone decides to drive around with awrecked
> > engine. (as i found out today ;-) )
That is why God, in his infinate mercy and wisdom, allows for Kite Flying.
;o)
elrikk
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> -- > ed_ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > $10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC. > > > "frederickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:JIF0a.24132$j51.12315@fe08... > > It seems like people who dont use windshield buildup vs people who doIn article <SEO0a.6404$[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...
Sun glare is *not* part of the hardcore settings. Hardcore is "force
cockpit smoke, and windshield dirt on.
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> The only thing I don't like about Hardcore mode is they included Solar > Flares. That should have never been done. This option can KILL frame rates > if you are not running a high-end machine. > > It's not a problem for me (at least I don't think it is), but I'm sure it > will be for some. > > Larry > > "frederickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:JIF0a.24132$j51.12315@fe08... > > It seems like people who dont use windshield buildup vs people who do use > it > > have a huge advantage when someone decides to drive around with a wrecked > > engine. (as i found out today ;-) ) > > > > > > > > >
> Sun glare is *not* part of the hardcore settings. Hardcore is "force
> cockpit smoke, and windshield dirt on.
...can we vote on it or something?
In article <yCX0a.3040$[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...
No voting. It will not be hardcore mode. Why? Because hardcore mode
does not disable driving aids at the same time as it forces other
settings. Not very hardcore if you ask me.
Drive it the way it's most comfortable (or realistic) for you.
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> > > Sun glare is *not* part of the hardcore settings. Hardcore is "force > > cockpit smoke, and windshield dirt on. > > ...can we vote on it or something? > > > >Roof rider ;)
"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> In article <yCX0a.3040$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > says... > > > > > Sun glare is *not* part of the hardcore settings. Hardcore is "force > > > cockpit smoke, and windshield dirt on. > > > > ...can we vote on it or something? > > > > > > > > > > No voting. It will not be hardcore mode. Why? Because hardcore mode > does not disable driving aids at the same time as it forces other > settings. Not very hardcore if you ask me. > > Drive it the way it's most comfortable (or realistic) for you.In article <ODY0a.79$[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...
AND DAMN PROUD OF IT TOO! LOL
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> Roof rider ;) > > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <yCX0a.3040$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > > says... > > > > > > > Sun glare is *not* part of the hardcore settings. Hardcore is "force > > > > cockpit smoke, and windshield dirt on. > > > > > > ...can we vote on it or something? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No voting. It will not be hardcore mode. Why? Because hardcore mode > > does not disable driving aids at the same time as it forces other > > settings. Not very hardcore if you ask me. > > > > Drive it the way it's most comfortable (or realistic) for you. > > >John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:
I see a hidden agenda here John. :) oops that is the cockpit that is
hidden...my mistake....
dave henrie
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> In article <ODY0a.79$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... >> Roof rider ;) >> >> >> "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >> > In article <yCX0a.3040$[email hidden]>, >> > [email hidden] says... >> > > >> > > > Sun glare is *not* part of the hardcore settings. Hardcore is >> > > > "force cockpit smoke, and windshield dirt on. >> > > >> > > ...can we vote on it or something? >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > No voting. It will not be hardcore mode. Why? Because hardcore >> > mode does not disable driving aids at the same time as it forces >> > other settings. Not very hardcore if you ask me. >> > >> > Drive it the way it's most comfortable (or realistic) for you. >> >> >> > > > AND DAMN PROUD OF IT TOO! LOL >Yep. It has been established that the manual is wrong.
Larry
"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> In article <SEO0a.6404$[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
> says...
> > The only thing I don't like about Hardcore mode is they included Solar
> > Flares. That should have never been done. This option can KILL framerates
> > if you are not running a high-end machine.
> >
> > It's not a problem for me (at least I don't think it is), but I'm sureit
use
> > it
> > > have a huge advantage when someone decides to drive around with awrecked
