Re: CD Image for 2003?

Nope. And Daemon Tools won't work either, but I suspect he'll fix that if it's fixable. Sierra is obviously using some sort of heavy-handed copy protection on this disc. That spinning CD you see when you launch the program is NOT the program, it's the copy protection validating the disc. Once again, legal users inconvienced and treated as guilty right from the start. I'm sure Papy has nothing to do with this so I don't hold them any blame at all. Larry "Zodiac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Anyone able to make a CD image that works for nr2003 yet.I`ve tried with > two programs so far and they wont strip alot of the info off the cd and > write it to the image.Before you answer,yes I know how to make one... > the one I made for 2002 works fine,have not used my 2002 cd to play > the game once since i made it.

There is a no cd patch out on The US Pits site. "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kwT0a.9004$[email hidden]... > Nope. And Daemon Tools won't work either, but I suspect he'll fix that if > it's fixable. > > Sierra is obviously using some sort of heavy-handed copy protection onthis

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> disc. That spinning CD you see when you launch the program is NOT the > program, it's the copy protection validating the disc. > > Once again, legal users inconvienced and treated as guilty right from the > start. > > I'm sure Papy has nothing to do with this so I don't hold them any blame

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> all. > > Larry > > "Zodiac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Anyone able to make a CD image that works for nr2003 yet.I`ve tried with > > two programs so far and they wont strip alot of the info off the cd and > > write it to the image.Before you answer,yes I know how to make one... > > the one I made for 2002 works fine,have not used my 2002 cd to play > > the game once since i made it. > >

What's the url for it? NO cd patches usually mean you can't play online but nice not to have to stick the cd in and risk it everytime you play offline. On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 15:24:30 -0400, "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>There is a no cd patch out on The US Pits site. > >"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:kwT0a.9004$[email hidden]... >> Nope. And Daemon Tools won't work either, but I suspect he'll fix that if >> it's fixable. >> >> Sierra is obviously using some sort of heavy-handed copy protection on >this >> disc. That spinning CD you see when you launch the program is NOT the >> program, it's the copy protection validating the disc. >> >> Once again, legal users inconvienced and treated as guilty right from the >> start. >> >> I'm sure Papy has nothing to do with this so I don't hold them any blame >at >> all. >> >> Larry >> >> "Zodiac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >> > Anyone able to make a CD image that works for nr2003 yet.I`ve tried with >> > two programs so far and they wont strip alot of the info off the cd and >> > write it to the image.Before you answer,yes I know how to make one... >> > the one I made for 2002 works fine,have not used my 2002 cd to play >> > the game once since i made it. >> >> >

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Yes I am aware of that, same as it was for NASCAR 2002 "Zodiac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:CJT0a.253382$[email hidden]: > > > There is a no cd patch out on The US Pits site. > > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:kwT0a.9004$[email hidden]... > >> Nope. And Daemon Tools won't work either, but I suspect he'll fix > >> that if it's fixable. > >> > >> Sierra is obviously using some sort of heavy-handed copy protection > >> on > > this > >> disc. That spinning CD you see when you launch the program is NOT > >> the program, it's the copy protection validating the disc. > >> > >> Once again, legal users inconvienced and treated as guilty right from > >> the start. > >> > >> I'm sure Papy has nothing to do with this so I don't hold them any > >> blame > > at > >> all. > >> > >> Larry > >> > >> "Zodiac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> news:[email hidden]... > >> > Anyone able to make a CD image that works for nr2003 yet.I`ve tried > >> > with two programs so far and they wont strip alot of the info off > >> > the cd and write it to the image.Before you answer,yes I know how > >> > to make one... the one I made for 2002 works fine,have not used my > >> > 2002 cd to play the game once since i made it. > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Yes but thats the same thing thats on nascarnet.com and it will > not work with multiplayer.

You can't do multiplayer with no-CD patches installed. Larry "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:CJT0a.253382$[email hidden]... > There is a no cd patch out on The US Pits site. > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:kwT0a.9004$[email hidden]... > > Nope. And Daemon Tools won't work either, but I suspect he'll fix thatif

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> > it's fixable. > > > > Sierra is obviously using some sort of heavy-handed copy protection on > this > > disc. That spinning CD you see when you launch the program is NOT the > > program, it's the copy protection validating the disc. > > > > Once again, legal users inconvienced and treated as guilty right from

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> > start. > > > > I'm sure Papy has nothing to do with this so I don't hold them any blame > at > > all. > > > > Larry > > > > "Zodiac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Anyone able to make a CD image that works for nr2003 yet.I`ve tried

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> > > write it to the image.Before you answer,yes I know how to make one... > > > the one I made for 2002 works fine,have not used my 2002 cd to play > > > the game once since i made it. > > > > > >

Yes I am aware of that, just pointing out this for those that might be interested. You can play multiplayer just not via Sierra. "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:wST0a.9076$[email hidden]...

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> You can't do multiplayer with no-CD patches installed. > > Larry > > "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:CJT0a.253382$[email hidden]... > > There is a no cd patch out on The US Pits site. > > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:kwT0a.9004$[email hidden]... > > > Nope. And Daemon Tools won't work either, but I suspect he'll fix

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> if > > > it's fixable. > > > > > > Sierra is obviously using some sort of heavy-handed copy protection on > > this > > > disc. That spinning CD you see when you launch the program is NOT the > > > program, it's the copy protection validating the disc. > > > > > > Once again, legal users inconvienced and treated as guilty right from > the > > > start. > > > > > > I'm sure Papy has nothing to do with this so I don't hold them any

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> > at > > > all. > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > "Zodiac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Anyone able to make a CD image that works for nr2003 yet.I`ve tried > with > > > > two programs so far and they wont strip alot of the info off the cd > and > > > > write it to the image.Before you answer,yes I know how to make

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> > > > the one I made for 2002 works fine,have not used my 2002 cd to play > > > > the game once since i made it. > > > > > > > > > > > >

Anyone able to make a CD image that works for nr2003 yet.I`ve tried with two programs so far and they wont strip alot of the info off the cd and write it to the image.Before you answer,yes I know how to make one... the one I made for 2002 works fine,have not used my 2002 cd to play the game once since i made it.

Clone CD worked.... "Zodiac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Anyone able to make a CD image that works for nr2003 yet.I`ve tried with > two programs so far and they wont strip alot of the info off the cd and > write it to the image.Before you answer,yes I know how to make one... > the one I made for 2002 works fine,have not used my 2002 cd to play > the game once since i made it.

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> There is a no cd patch out on The US Pits site. > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:kwT0a.9004$[email hidden]... >> Nope. And Daemon Tools won't work either, but I suspect he'll fix >> that if it's fixable. >> >> Sierra is obviously using some sort of heavy-handed copy protection >> on > this >> disc. That spinning CD you see when you launch the program is NOT >> the program, it's the copy protection validating the disc. >> >> Once again, legal users inconvienced and treated as guilty right from >> the start. >> >> I'm sure Papy has nothing to do with this so I don't hold them any >> blame > at >> all. >> >> Larry >> >> "Zodiac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >> > Anyone able to make a CD image that works for nr2003 yet.I`ve tried >> > with two programs so far and they wont strip alot of the info off >> > the cd and write it to the image.Before you answer,yes I know how >> > to make one... the one I made for 2002 works fine,have not used my >> > 2002 cd to play the game once since i made it. >> >> > > >

Yes but thats the same thing thats on nascarnet.com and it will not work with multiplayer.

How long have you run the cloned CD? I only ask because NR2002 had this nasty habit of leading you on, and then would freeze at intermittent times in the game when a back up CD was being used. It drove a lot of us MAD until we figured out what was going on! Larry "Tim Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:IiU0a.325$[email hidden]...

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> Clone CD worked.... > > > "Zodiac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Anyone able to make a CD image that works for nr2003 yet.I`ve tried with > > two programs so far and they wont strip alot of the info off the cd and > > write it to the image.Before you answer,yes I know how to make one... > > the one I made for 2002 works fine,have not used my 2002 cd to play > > the game once since i made it. > > >

"Tim Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:IiU0a.325$4C3.56 @fe04.atl2.webusenet.com:

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> Clone CD worked.... > > > "Zodiac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> Anyone able to make a CD image that works for nr2003 yet.I`ve tried with >> two programs so far and they wont strip alot of the info off the cd and >> write it to the image.Before you answer,yes I know how to make one... >> the one I made for 2002 works fine,have not used my 2002 cd to play >> the game once since i made it. > > > >

like to know how you got it to work?...I already tried Clone CD

www.isonews.com You won't find a nocd there but here's the nfo file from the "cracker" group with the protection details in it. ����� In Their 16th Year Of Glory, FairLight Released ���Ŀ ���������������������������������������������������������������������������� Ŀ �� Nascar Racing 2003 Season (C) Vivendi Universal �� ���������������������������������������������������������������������������� �� : Supplied by: FAIRLIGHT : : Release Date: 2/5/2003 : � Cracked by: FAIRLIGHT � � Game Type: Simulation � � Packaged by: FAIRLIGHT � � Image Format: BIN/CUE � ���������������-----�����������������Ĵ ������������������������������������Ĵ � CDS: 1 � � Protection: SecuRom � � CD1 archives: 36 x 15 MB � � CD1: flt-nrs3.001 -> .036 � � � � � � ������������������������������������� ������������������������������������ � � System Requirements: puter � ���������������������������������������������������������������������������� �� Game information : ================== NASCAR Racing 2003 Season showcases new dynamic 3D graphics including a populated pit row, team war wagons, pit signs, aerial objects such as planes, helicopters, blimps, and more. In addition, the enhanced AI automatically adjusts to match the player's driving ability, allowing both rookies and veterans the opportunity to trade paint with the pros. Inspired by the exhilarating world of actual NASCAR Cup racing. Installation Information : ========================== Just extract the archives and burn the .cue file with your favorite CD-Recording software. Make sure to copy over the crack to the install dir and enjoy. Use this serial to instal: /Team FairLight -- The first ever pinball ezboard !! http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE - RYL FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY "Zodiac" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message de news: [email hidden]... > Anyone able to make a CD image that works for nr2003 yet.I`ve tried with > two programs so far and they wont strip alot of the info off the cd and > write it to the image.Before you answer,yes I know how to make one... > the one I made for 2002 works fine,have not used my 2002 cd to play > the game once since i made it.

"Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in news:3e443b0b$0$262$[email hidden]: > www.isonews.com > > You won't find a nocd there but here's the nfo file from the "cracker" > group with the protection details in it. > > I never understood those nfo files and all that cracker stuff. Someday I hope somebody write a help file in plain english that 'splains what all those terms are and how to use them. dave henrie

well in this case it's quite obvious isn't it ? So here's the "plain english version" Supplied by: FAIRLIGHT If you were working for Papy and had access to "gold" cd's your name could be there Cracked by: FAIRLIGHT If you could do thiyour name could be here Image Format: BIN/CUE It means to burn the extracted files on a cd you'll need to have a program that does cue/bin CDS: 1 Means it'll fit on 1CD Protection: SecuRom Means the original game uses SECUROM as it's "Protection", if you use CLONECD you'll want to know this CD1 archives: 36 x 15 MB It means on the CD1 you have 36 archives of 15Megs each CD1: flt-nrs3.001 -> .036 Files are called flt-nrs3.001 to flt-nrs3.036 (remember the 36 files part ?) System Requirements: puter It means you need a computer to play it, sometimes you need more than that, like a synth keayboard for some music software, or 2 sound boards for BPM STUDIO for example... Installation Information : ========================== Just extract the archives and burn the .cue file with your favorite CD-Recording software. Make sure to copy over the crack to the install dir and enjoy. Use this serial to instal: This one is quite obvious, it's the "how-to" once you've gotten the files. No need to say that this "cracked" version does NOT allow multiplayer, not yet... -- The first ever pinball ezboard !! http://pub7.ezboard.com/bpinball SYS80 : BLK HOLE - HNTD HSE - SPRIT - VOLCNO - PNK PNTHER - DEVLS DARE - RYL FLSH DLX - SPDERMAN - CHRLIE'S NGELS - TX SCTOR - MRS GOW - RBO WARS BALLY : XENN - EGHT BLL - EGHT BLL CHMP - PACMN - SPKEASY 4 - STRKES N SPRES - SPCE INVDERS - FTRE SPA - LADY LCK - PRAGON WILLIAMS : BLCKOUT - CNTACT - ADDMS FAMLY "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message de news: [email hidden]... > "Txl" <txl AT free.fr> wrote in > news:3e443b0b$0$262$[email hidden]: > > > www.isonews.com > > > > You won't find a nocd there but here's the nfo file from the "cracker" > > group with the protection details in it. > > > > > I never understood those nfo files and all that cracker stuff. Someday > I hope somebody write a help file in plain english that 'splains what all > those terms are and how to use them. > dave henrie >

"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kwT0a.9004$[email hidden]... > Once again, legal users inconvienced and treated as guilty right from the > start. i'm curious. when you get in your car and have to use a key to start it instead of just pushing a starter button, do you feel inconvenienced and persecuted? after all, the keylock ignition system is only there to prevent other people from using your car without having paid for it, isn't it?

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> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:kwT0a.9004$[email hidden]... > > >>Once again, legal users inconvienced and treated as guilty right from the >>start. > > > i'm curious. when you get in your car and have to use a key to start it > instead of just pushing a starter button, do you feel inconvenienced and > persecuted? after all, the keylock ignition system is only there to prevent > other people from using your car without having paid for it, isn't it?

Except warez people have no problems operating the software they traffic in. Only those who bought legit copies with "anti-piracy" measures get hardships. One perfect example was the recent release of SimCity 4. Buggy as hell, it didn't take long for EA to issue a patch. To combat piracy they used an online RTF program, but like 80+ percent of people were only getting errors & their game wouldn't patch. The warez community, OTOH, had an identical patch out within 48hrs. So the pirates had no problems playing their patched versions while legit customers got screwed. Not supporting warez, just stating realities. :-( -- Fester An unbreakable toy is useful for breaking other toys.

WTF are you talking about? Larry "blorch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bG%4a.169271$2H6.2947@sccrnsc04... > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:kwT0a.9004$[email hidden]... > > > Once again, legal users inconvienced and treated as guilty right fromthe > > start. > > i'm curious. when you get in your car and have to use a key to start it > instead of just pushing a starter button, do you feel inconvenienced and > persecuted? after all, the keylock ignition system is only there toprevent > other people from using your car without having paid for it, isn't it? > >

"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:dT85a.44840$[email hidden]... > WTF are you talking about? if I have to explain the analogy to you then you are too stupid to understand it. nevermind.

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> > Larry > > "blorch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:bG%4a.169271$2H6.2947@sccrnsc04... > > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:kwT0a.9004$[email hidden]... > > > > > Once again, legal users inconvienced and treated as guilty right from > the > > > start. > > > > i'm curious. when you get in your car and have to use a key to start it > > instead of just pushing a starter button, do you feel inconvenienced and > > persecuted? after all, the keylock ignition system is only there to > prevent > > other people from using your car without having paid for it, isn't it? > > > > > >

On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 06:47:34 -0500, Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> wrote: >Except warez people have no problems operating the software they traffic >in. Only those who bought legit copies with "anti-piracy" measures get >hardships. This is why the entire idea of copy protection is fucking stupid. All copy protection does (or ever has done) is inconvenience legitimate users. Most software is still distributed illegally days in advance of the product actually shipping to retail. And yet we're still burdened with ridiculous CD checks and the like. Even in my Apple ][ days it was annoying as hell that in order to have a backup copy of most software I had to find a BBS carrying pirated versions. On a business level, I can't see how it makes sense at all. Why dump extra development time and expense into something that doesn't generate revenue. Jason

"blorch" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:bG%4a.169271$2H6.2947@sccrnsc04:

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> > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:kwT0a.9004$[email hidden]... > >> Once again, legal users inconvienced and treated as guilty right from >> the start. > > i'm curious. when you get in your car and have to use a key to start > it instead of just pushing a starter button, do you feel > inconvenienced and persecuted? after all, the keylock ignition system > is only there to prevent other people from using your car without > having paid for it, isn't it? >

Keys are used to help keep cars in possesion of the LEGITIMATE OWNER who PURCHASED the vehicle. COPY PROTECTION is used to keep LEGITIMATE OWNERS from using something they PAID for as they see fit. Again as has been shown over and over again. COPY PROTECTION DOES NOT STOP PIRACY. The hacks are often released before the game hits retail shelves. MS made a big deal of it's digital rights scheme but there were registration #'s available the same day XP was released. Turbo Tax has littered my system with extra files...files that were preventing some of my OTHER NON INTUIT software from working.(uninstall TT, program works again...you be the judge) The only people who benefit from Copy Protection are the Copy Protection companies...Show me how Sierra will recover the cost of Safe disk or whatever scheme they use, the people who were going to steal Nr2k3 have ALREADY DONE SO! I'd like to see hard numbers on how much $$ copy protection adds to the cost of products I buy. Copy Protection adds to the wear and tear on my system, delays the loading of products, is not 100% compatible with PC hardware and is a real pain when testing editing or mods that require many multiple reloadings of a program. I have bought MANY racing sim...NONE of them require me to find the cd and drop it in the drive and wait wait wait til the copy protection decides I AM NOT A THIEF!!! If I can't bypass the cp with a nocd..I don't keep that product. dave henrie

LOL! That was fun :) Larry "blorch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4sk5a.200157$[email hidden]...

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> > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:dT85a.44840$[email hidden]... > > WTF are you talking about? > > if I have to explain the analogy to you then you are too stupid to > understand it. nevermind. > > > > > > Larry > > > > "blorch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:bG%4a.169271$2H6.2947@sccrnsc04... > > > > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:kwT0a.9004$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > Once again, legal users inconvienced and treated as guilty right

from > > the > > > > start. > > > > > > i'm curious. when you get in your car and have to use a key to startit > > > instead of just pushing a starter button, do you feel inconveniencedand

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> > > persecuted? after all, the keylock ignition system is only there to > > prevent > > > other people from using your car without having paid for it, isn't it? > > > > > > > > > > > >

In article <bG%4a.169271$2H6.2947@sccrnsc04>, "blorch" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:kwT0a.9004$[email hidden]... > >> Once again, legal users inconvienced and treated as guilty right from the >> start. > >i'm curious. when you get in your car and have to use a key to start it >instead of just pushing a starter button, do you feel inconvenienced and >persecuted? after all, the keylock ignition system is only there to prevent >other people from using your car without having paid for it, isn't it?

A better analogy would have been if you had to flip to some random page in your car owner's manual, and enter in a keyword before iut would start. Turning a key and hitting a button are so similar as to not be a problem. Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-0.381 MonsterRank: +339.873 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > A better analogy would have been if you had to flip to some random page inyour > car owner's manual, and enter in a keyword before iut would start.Turning a > key and hitting a button are so similar as to not be a problem. except the analogy breaks down when you start to introduce things that don't already happen in the real world.

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> > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> A better analogy would have been if you had to flip to some random >> page in > your >> car owner's manual, and enter in a keyword before iut would start. > Turning a >> key and hitting a button are so similar as to not be a problem. > > except the analogy breaks down when you start to introduce things that > don't already happen in the real world.

But that is what happens in the computer world. Lets stay with cars for a while...if I went to Firestone for some new tires, would I expect to drive away with a hidden gps receiver tracking my moves? Would I expect the new tires to impact the very functioning of other components of the car? Would I expect a special locking lugnut on the wheel that means ONLY the Firestone dealer can change that tire at a later date? No..these things don't happen in the real world, but in the digital domain they are all together tooooooo common. dave henrie > > > > >

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>"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> A better analogy would have been if you had to flip to some random page in >your >> car owner's manual, and enter in a keyword before iut would start. >Turning a >> key and hitting a button are so similar as to not be a problem. > >except the analogy breaks down when you start to introduce things that don't >already happen in the real world.

Thus making the point that I didn't agree with your analogy. As I inferred, I don't consider having to turn a key instead of hitting a button to start my car an inconvenience. However, having to find a CD just so that the game will RUN can be a pain in the ass sometimes. Then you have to deal with possible damage to the CD drove because of the copy-protection. N2002 would spin the drive so fast I thought the damn thing would explode. None of my other games do that, and that behavior has been linked with their secure-rom CP. The 'warez' kiddies have no such issues. They just click on the icon and boom, they're playing the game. Thus making the original point that CP is just a <expletive> waste of time that only affects the legal purchasers... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-0.381 MonsterRank: +339.873 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.