Appropriate position for slower drivers?

Hi all, I just started racing NASCAR 2003 Season on line. I've been racing previous version off-line and decided to give it a shot against real people. So far it is lots of fun (once you get past the really rude behavior of some drivers). I hold a line pretty well and can drive okay in traffic, but I'm not nearly good enough to finish at the top of the pack, so my goal right now is to drive safe and finish the race. As a result, I will usually get lapped by the race leaders. As a slower car, where should I be positioned to let the faster drivers by? Should I hold a high line and let them pass low or should I go low and let them pass me high?

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> Hi all, > > I just started racing NASCAR 2003 Season on line. I've been racing > previous version off-line and decided to give it a shot against real > people. So far it is lots of fun (once you get past the really rude > behavior of some drivers). > > I hold a line pretty well and can drive okay in traffic, but I'm not > nearly good enough to finish at the top of the pack, so my goal right > now is to drive safe and finish the race. As a result, I will usually > get lapped by the race leaders. As a slower car, where should I be > positioned to let the faster drivers by? Should I hold a high line and > let them pass low or should I go low and let them pass me high? > > >

It depends on the track. At the Superspeedways like Daytona, staying high is probably best. but if you are up there you run the risk of scraping the wall and lurching back down into another lane. So be careful. A track like Darlington, however, you should be on the bottom especially at the exits to the turns. Good Luck...have fun. dave henrie

I think the most important thing isnt high or low...its how consistent you line is. Remember, somone lapping u will see u and decide the best way to get past from a long way back. So, like in all racing.... just hold your line and dont do anything unexpected :) dan "GKenney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi all, > > I just started racing NASCAR 2003 Season on line. I've been racingprevious > version off-line and decided to give it a shot against real people. So far > it is lots of fun (once you get past the really rude behavior of some > drivers). > > I hold a line pretty well and can drive okay in traffic, but I'm notnearly > good enough to finish at the top of the pack, so my goal right now is to > drive safe and finish the race. As a result, I will usually get lapped by > the race leaders. As a slower car, where should I be positioned to letthe > faster drivers by? Should I hold a high line and let them pass low orshould > I go low and let them pass me high? > >

Most of the times, go high since the fastest way around the track is on the bottom. Like Dave said, Darlington is a different beast. Also stated, just pick one and stay there so the leaders will know what you are doing. -- Brian Tate DSTP Motorsports Public Relations http://www.dstpmotorsports.com http://www.toyotaatlantic.com "GKenney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi all, > > I just started racing NASCAR 2003 Season on line. I've been racing previous > version off-line and decided to give it a shot against real people. So far > it is lots of fun (once you get past the really rude behavior of some > drivers). > > I hold a line pretty well and can drive okay in traffic, but I'm not nearly > good enough to finish at the top of the pack, so my goal right now is to > drive safe and finish the race. As a result, I will usually get lapped by > the race leaders. As a slower car, where should I be positioned to let the > faster drivers by? Should I hold a high line and let them pass low or should > I go low and let them pass me high? > >

As others have stated, generally staying high is best, but it's really nice when a driver about to be lapped, or passed, will send a "Pass low" or "Pass high" message. I have both of those as auto chat message, but not a "Going low", so you're talking to an experienced lapper here :-) "GKenney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi all, > > I just started racing NASCAR 2003 Season on line. I've been racingprevious > version off-line and decided to give it a shot against real people. So far > it is lots of fun (once you get past the really rude behavior of some > drivers). > > I hold a line pretty well and can drive okay in traffic, but I'm notnearly > good enough to finish at the top of the pack, so my goal right now is to > drive safe and finish the race. As a result, I will usually get lapped by > the race leaders. As a slower car, where should I be positioned to letthe > faster drivers by? Should I hold a high line and let them pass low orshould > I go low and let them pass me high? > >

Correction...I my autochat is actually "Pass left" and "Pass right" Have to handle those roadies as well :-) "Bob G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:eFt2a.6671$[email hidden]... > As others have stated, generally staying high is best, but it's reallynice > when a driver about to be lapped, or passed, will send a "Pass low" or"Pass > high" message. > > I have both of those as auto chat message, but not a "Going low", soyou're

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> talking to an experienced lapper here :-) > > > > > "GKenney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi all, > > > > I just started racing NASCAR 2003 Season on line. I've been racing > previous > > version off-line and decided to give it a shot against real people. So

far > > it is lots of fun (once you get past the really rude behavior of some > > drivers). > > > > I hold a line pretty well and can drive okay in traffic, but I'm not > nearly > > good enough to finish at the top of the pack, so my goal right now isto > > drive safe and finish the race. As a result, I will usually get lappedby

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> > the race leaders. As a slower car, where should I be positioned to let > the > > faster drivers by? Should I hold a high line and let them pass low or > should > > I go low and let them pass me high? > > > > > >

"Dan_Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b2dma5$1a07en$[email hidden]... > I think the most important thing isnt high or low...its how consistent you > line is. Remember, somone lapping u will see u and decide the best way to > get past from a long way back. So, like in all racing.... just hold your > line and dont do anything unexpected :) > dan I'm glad to see I'm not the only one to think that way. The biggest thing is not to race the leaders. Roll out of the gas a little early going in and get on it a little latter coming off to give them a chance to get by clean. Like Dan pointed out the worst thing you can do is run low right till he gets there then go high. I have seen that wipe out both cars plenty of times.. MadDAWG

I've seen these messages from other players. I'm curious how you tell that I am the one sending it. It has my car number attached, but I can never see the car number of the car ahead of me. Is there someway to check what the number of the car you are approaching is. "Bob G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:eFt2a.6671$[email hidden]... > As others have stated, generally staying high is best, but it's reallynice > when a driver about to be lapped, or passed, will send a "Pass low" or"Pass > high" message. > > I have both of those as auto chat message, but not a "Going low", soyou're

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> talking to an experienced lapper here :-) > > > > > "GKenney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi all, > > > > I just started racing NASCAR 2003 Season on line. I've been racing > previous > > version off-line and decided to give it a shot against real people. So

far > > it is lots of fun (once you get past the really rude behavior of some > > drivers). > > > > I hold a line pretty well and can drive okay in traffic, but I'm not > nearly > > good enough to finish at the top of the pack, so my goal right now isto > > drive safe and finish the race. As a result, I will usually get lappedby

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> > the race leaders. As a slower car, where should I be positioned to let > the > > faster drivers by? Should I hold a high line and let them pass low or > should > > I go low and let them pass me high? > > > > > >

Okay, looks like the feedback here is really "be consistent with no unexpected moves". I can hold a line pretty well as long I'm not getting hit by major Areo effects. I do have issues with push when I approach a car and then end up going high. Same from the rear, car will get loose and will slip around in the turn. Still working on figuring out how to compensate for that. "Dan_Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b2dma5$1a07en$[email hidden]...

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> I think the most important thing isnt high or low...its how consistent you > line is. Remember, somone lapping u will see u and decide the best way to > get past from a long way back. So, like in all racing.... just hold your > line and dont do anything unexpected :) > dan > "GKenney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi all, > > > > I just started racing NASCAR 2003 Season on line. I've been racing > previous > > version off-line and decided to give it a shot against real people. So

far > > it is lots of fun (once you get past the really rude behavior of some > > drivers). > > > > I hold a line pretty well and can drive okay in traffic, but I'm not > nearly > > good enough to finish at the top of the pack, so my goal right now isto > > drive safe and finish the race. As a result, I will usually get lappedby

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> > the race leaders. As a slower car, where should I be positioned to let > the > > faster drivers by? Should I hold a high line and let them pass low or > should > > I go low and let them pass me high? > > > > > >

F2 GK "GKenney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I've seen these messages from other players. I'm curious how you tell thatI

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> am the one sending it. It has my car number attached, but I can never see > the car number of the car ahead of me. Is there someway to check what the > number of the car you are approaching is. > > "Bob G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:eFt2a.6671$[email hidden]... > > As others have stated, generally staying high is best, but it's really > nice > > when a driver about to be lapped, or passed, will send a "Pass low" or > "Pass > > high" message. > > > > I have both of those as auto chat message, but not a "Going low", so > you're > > talking to an experienced lapper here :-) > > > > > > > > > > "GKenney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I just started racing NASCAR 2003 Season on line. I've been racing > > previous > > > version off-line and decided to give it a shot against real people. So > far > > > it is lots of fun (once you get past the really rude behavior of some > > > drivers). > > > > > > I hold a line pretty well and can drive okay in traffic, but I'm not > > nearly > > > good enough to finish at the top of the pack, so my goal right now is > to > > > drive safe and finish the race. As a result, I will usually get

lapped > by > > > the race leaders. As a slower car, where should I be positioned tolet

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> > the > > > faster drivers by? Should I hold a high line and let them pass low or > > should > > > I go low and let them pass me high? > > > > > > > > > > > >

Thanks "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:J%u2a.57$[email hidden]... > F2 GK > > "GKenney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I've seen these messages from other players. I'm curious how you tellthat > I > > am the one sending it. It has my car number attached, but I can neversee > > the car number of the car ahead of me. Is there someway to check whatthe

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> > number of the car you are approaching is. > > > > "Bob G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:eFt2a.6671$[email hidden]... > > > As others have stated, generally staying high is best, but it's really > > nice > > > when a driver about to be lapped, or passed, will send a "Pass low" or > > "Pass > > > high" message. > > > > > > I have both of those as auto chat message, but not a "Going low", so > > you're > > > talking to an experienced lapper here :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "GKenney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I just started racing NASCAR 2003 Season on line. I've been racing > > > previous > > > > version off-line and decided to give it a shot against real people.

So > > far > > > > it is lots of fun (once you get past the really rude behavior ofsome > > > > drivers). > > > > > > > > I hold a line pretty well and can drive okay in traffic, but I'm not > > > nearly > > > > good enough to finish at the top of the pack, so my goal right nowis

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> > to > > > > drive safe and finish the race. As a result, I will usually get > lapped > > by > > > > the race leaders. As a slower car, where should I be positioned to > let > > > the > > > > faster drivers by? Should I hold a high line and let them pass low

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> > > should > > > > I go low and let them pass me high? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

The most appropriate position would be for you to just hold your line, it's not up to you to make room for faster cars, leaders have to have as much car control as a lapper. It's always been my belief that as long as the leaders or faster cars have room to pass, then they should use that room. Obviously you don't want to pull into the groove in front of faster cars but you also have to realize that everyone drives different lines at different times. So I'd say be safe us the F2 function and hold your line, if faster car hits you, it will tell you alot about his decision making process and his over all skill. With that said, when he cusses you for not moving, ignore him. You might also want to set up your autochat keys to announce pass me hi or low and do like I said...hold your line. "GKenney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi all, > > I just started racing NASCAR 2003 Season on line. I've been racingprevious > version off-line and decided to give it a shot against real people. So far > it is lots of fun (once you get past the really rude behavior of some > drivers). > > I hold a line pretty well and can drive okay in traffic, but I'm notnearly > good enough to finish at the top of the pack, so my goal right now is to > drive safe and finish the race. As a result, I will usually get lapped by > the race leaders. As a slower car, where should I be positioned to letthe > faster drivers by? Should I hold a high line and let them pass low orshould > I go low and let them pass me high? > >

Sometimes it depends on the track or the situation, but the overall golden rule is to stay high and clear. The absolute LAST thing you want to do is change your mind at the last minute. That's where the majority of major pile-ups will occur. Most drivers will make a decision on where to pass you long before they get to you. Usually, it's low. Many will announce their intentions, as I do. -Larry "GKenney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi all, > > I just started racing NASCAR 2003 Season on line. I've been racingprevious > version off-line and decided to give it a shot against real people. So far > it is lots of fun (once you get past the really rude behavior of some > drivers). > > I hold a line pretty well and can drive okay in traffic, but I'm notnearly > good enough to finish at the top of the pack, so my goal right now is to > drive safe and finish the race. As a result, I will usually get lapped by > the race leaders. As a slower car, where should I be positioned to letthe > faster drivers by? Should I hold a high line and let them pass low orshould > I go low and let them pass me high? > >

And don't make your like the middle one :) Larry "Dan_Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b2dma5$1a07en$[email hidden]...

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> I think the most important thing isnt high or low...its how consistent you > line is. Remember, somone lapping u will see u and decide the best way to > get past from a long way back. So, like in all racing.... just hold your > line and dont do anything unexpected :) > dan > "GKenney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi all, > > > > I just started racing NASCAR 2003 Season on line. I've been racing > previous > > version off-line and decided to give it a shot against real people. So

far > > it is lots of fun (once you get past the really rude behavior of some > > drivers). > > > > I hold a line pretty well and can drive okay in traffic, but I'm not > nearly > > good enough to finish at the top of the pack, so my goal right now isto > > drive safe and finish the race. As a result, I will usually get lappedby

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> > the race leaders. As a slower car, where should I be positioned to let > the > > faster drivers by? Should I hold a high line and let them pass low or > should > > I go low and let them pass me high? > > > > > >

Use split-time. After hitting F2 to show the field, press the space bar. It will show in real time who is ahead and behind you. If you are off the pace then this is the only F2 mode you should consider using since things can come up on you in a hurry. Larry "GKenney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I've seen these messages from other players. I'm curious how you tell thatI

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> am the one sending it. It has my car number attached, but I can never see > the car number of the car ahead of me. Is there someway to check what the > number of the car you are approaching is. > > "Bob G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:eFt2a.6671$[email hidden]... > > As others have stated, generally staying high is best, but it's really > nice > > when a driver about to be lapped, or passed, will send a "Pass low" or > "Pass > > high" message. > > > > I have both of those as auto chat message, but not a "Going low", so > you're > > talking to an experienced lapper here :-) > > > > > > > > > > "GKenney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I just started racing NASCAR 2003 Season on line. I've been racing > > previous > > > version off-line and decided to give it a shot against real people. So > far > > > it is lots of fun (once you get past the really rude behavior of some > > > drivers). > > > > > > I hold a line pretty well and can drive okay in traffic, but I'm not > > nearly > > > good enough to finish at the top of the pack, so my goal right now is > to > > > drive safe and finish the race. As a result, I will usually get

lapped > by > > > the race leaders. As a slower car, where should I be positioned tolet

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> > the > > > faster drivers by? Should I hold a high line and let them pass low or > > should > > > I go low and let them pass me high? > > > > > > > > > > > >

It is still common courtesy for most off-pace drivers to stay HIGH on most ovals (Darlington a noted exception). Everyone has to work together in these situations. It's EVERYONE'S responsibility, not just the passers or the passee's. Larry "Tom osbon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0Kv2a.38912$[email hidden]... > The most appropriate position would be for you to just hold your line,it's > not up to you to make room for faster cars, leaders have to have as muchcar > control as a lapper. It's always been my belief that as long as theleaders > or faster cars have room to pass, then they should use that room.Obviously > you don't want to pull into the groove in front of faster cars but youalso > have to realize that everyone drives different lines at different times.So

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> I'd say be safe us the F2 function and hold your line, if faster car hits > you, it will tell you alot about his decision making process and his over > all skill. With that said, when he cusses you for not moving, ignore him. > You might also want to set up your autochat keys to announce pass me hi or > low and do like I said...hold your line. > "GKenney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi all, > > > > I just started racing NASCAR 2003 Season on line. I've been racing > previous > > version off-line and decided to give it a shot against real people. So

far > > it is lots of fun (once you get past the really rude behavior of some > > drivers). > > > > I hold a line pretty well and can drive okay in traffic, but I'm not > nearly > > good enough to finish at the top of the pack, so my goal right now isto > > drive safe and finish the race. As a result, I will usually get lappedby

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> > the race leaders. As a slower car, where should I be positioned to let > the > > faster drivers by? Should I hold a high line and let them pass low or > should > > I go low and let them pass me high? > > > > > >

My suggestion would be to move high if you have time. But, if you find yourself in a position where they are right on you then you should just hold your line and let them find their way around you. If they bitch about it tell them there is more than 1 line and they need to find another since you are using that one. (-: -- Michael K. Grandy "GKenney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi all, > > I just started racing NASCAR 2003 Season on line. I've been racing previous > version off-line and decided to give it a shot against real people. So far > it is lots of fun (once you get past the really rude behavior of some > drivers). > > >

Hehe, I aspire to the day that I have to make a decision on passing someone on-line! I've got the hot key ready just in case. "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2_v2a.33043$[email hidden]...

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> Sometimes it depends on the track or the situation, but the overall golden > rule is to stay high and clear. > > The absolute LAST thing you want to do is change your mind at the last > minute. That's where the majority of major pile-ups will occur. > > Most drivers will make a decision on where to pass you long before they

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> to you. Usually, it's low. Many will announce their intentions, as I do. > > -Larry > > "GKenney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi all, > > > > I just started racing NASCAR 2003 Season on line. I've been racing > previous > > version off-line and decided to give it a shot against real people. So

far > > it is lots of fun (once you get past the really rude behavior of some > > drivers). > > > > I hold a line pretty well and can drive okay in traffic, but I'm not > nearly > > good enough to finish at the top of the pack, so my goal right now isto > > drive safe and finish the race. As a result, I will usually get lappedby

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> > the race leaders. As a slower car, where should I be positioned to let > the > > faster drivers by? Should I hold a high line and let them pass low or > should > > I go low and let them pass me high? > > > > > >

On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 08:54:18 -0500, "GKenney" <[email hidden]> wrote: >As a slower car, where should I be positioned to let the >faster drivers by? Drive a normal line, it's up to them to watch how you're driving and find a way around. If someone hits you from behind and you're not swerving like a madman then it's not your fault. People will bitch at you about it and demand that you do a better job of getting out of the way, but making the pass, even on a lapped car, is their problem not yours. Jason

Mike makes a good point, which I was illuding to when I said "Don't change your mind at the last minute". Well, second is probably more accurate :) Suprises are not thought well of :) Larry "Mike Grandy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Gjy2a.15546$[email hidden]... > My suggestion would be to move high if you have time. But, if you find > yourself in a position where they are right on you then you should justhold > your line and let them find their way around you. If they bitch about it > tell them there is more than 1 line and they need to find another sinceyou

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> are using that one. (-: > > > -- > Michael K. Grandy > "GKenney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi all, > > > > I just started racing NASCAR 2003 Season on line. I've been racing > previous > > version off-line and decided to give it a shot against real people. So

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> > it is lots of fun (once you get past the really rude behavior of some > > drivers). > > > > > > > >

NASCAR will black flag ya if youre too slow (off pace for the PC) but NR2003 will not. It's up to you to make the final judgment on whether youre ready for online racing. By the questions youre asking its ez to see youre not going to be a wrecker ;) No matter how well you *Hold* your line if youre 20MPH off the pace you will be a hazard to all in the race. Mitch <[email hidden]>

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> wrote: > > >As a slower car, where should I be positioned to let the > >faster drivers by? > > Drive a normal line, it's up to them to watch how you're driving and > find a way around. >

Hehe, thanks Mitch. I'm fast enough, just not comfortable drafting online yet. So I'm not going to be in the superfast group. I'm focusing on Daytona right now and my impression is that you've got to get into a good drafting situation to really do well there. "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5Gz2a.155$%[email hidden]... > NASCAR will black flag ya if youre too slow (off pace for the PC) butNR2003 > will not. It's up to you to make the final judgment on whether youreready

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> for online racing. By the questions youre asking its ez to see youre not > going to be a wrecker ;) No matter how well you *Hold* your line if youre > 20MPH off the pace you will be a hazard to all in the race. > > > Mitch > > <[email hidden]> > > wrote: > > > > >As a slower car, where should I be positioned to let the > > >faster drivers by? > > > > Drive a normal line, it's up to them to watch how you're driving and > > find a way around. > > > >

If you can't at least follow somebody in a draft, you need to practice more offline. Set up some AI races and start at the back. Practice staying in the draft until you can at least keep up with them at 98% or so. On the way to that goal, you should start to figure out how to pass too. A second exercise is to try to qual in the middle of the pack (turn down the AI if you need to) and practice not starting "the big one". The first lap is where almost all of the BS I see online gets started. A lot of this is because of warp, but a lot of it is just people (and it only takes one) making mistakes. The only way to get comfortable with the aero effects is to actually race in the middle of a pack. You wont learn it riding around by your lonesome. The AI is a great learning tool; use it to your advantage. racin you soon, Gerald "GKenney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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> Hehe, thanks Mitch. I'm fast enough, just not comfortable drafting online > yet. So I'm not going to be in the superfast group. I'm focusing on Daytona > right now and my impression is that you've got to get into a good drafting > situation to really do well there. > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:5Gz2a.155$%[email hidden]... > > NASCAR will black flag ya if youre too slow (off pace for the PC) but > NR2003 > > will not. It's up to you to make the final judgment on whether youre > ready > > for online racing. By the questions youre asking its ez to see youre not > > going to be a wrecker ;) No matter how well you *Hold* your line if youre > > 20MPH off the pace you will be a hazard to all in the race. > > > > > > Mitch > > > > <[email hidden]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > >As a slower car, where should I be positioned to let the > > > >faster drivers by? > > > > > > Drive a normal line, it's up to them to watch how you're driving and > > > find a way around. > > > > > > >

One thing I'm finding Gerald is that offline and online play feels really different. When offline with the AI (97% for me, Im a wimp) the push is quite bad outta 4 yet online I can keep her down pretty easy outta 4. Could be other factors also as I didnt pay too close attention to the weather and the like. Mitch "Gerald Moore" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> If you can't at least follow somebody in a draft, you need to practice > more offline. Set up some AI races and start at the back. Practice > staying in the draft until you can at least keep up with them at 98% > or so. On the way to that goal, you should start to figure out how to > pass too. A second exercise is to try to qual in the middle of the > pack (turn down the AI if you need to) and practice not starting "the > big one". The first lap is where almost all of the BS I see online > gets started. A lot of this is because of warp, but a lot of it is > just people (and it only takes one) making mistakes. > > The only way to get comfortable with the aero effects is to actually > race in the middle of a pack. You wont learn it riding around by your > lonesome. The AI is a great learning tool; use it to your advantage. > > racin you soon, > Gerald > > > "GKenney" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

news:<[email hidden]>... > > Hehe, thanks Mitch. I'm fast enough, just not comfortable draftingonline > > yet. So I'm not going to be in the superfast group. I'm focusing onDaytona > > right now and my impression is that you've got to get into a gooddrafting

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> > situation to really do well there. > > > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:5Gz2a.155$%[email hidden]... > > > NASCAR will black flag ya if youre too slow (off pace for the PC) but > > NR2003 > > > will not. It's up to you to make the final judgment on whether youre > > ready > > > for online racing. By the questions youre asking its ez to see youre

not > > > going to be a wrecker ;) No matter how well you *Hold* your line ifyoure

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> > > 20MPH off the pace you will be a hazard to all in the race. > > > > > > > > > Mitch > > > > > > <[email hidden]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >As a slower car, where should I be positioned to let the > > > > >faster drivers by? > > > > > > > > Drive a normal line, it's up to them to watch how you're driving and > > > > find a way around. > > > > > > > > > >