Kevin King

http://209.242.93.9/racereaper/results/kotmqualifyooooZUQWROFXJHZU.html Fartmeister whoever he is runs 51 laps with an average of 190.235 at 81 degrees! I don't about being cheap or cheating but I'm amazed that no one says anything in this league with incredible numbers like these. Pete

Sorry I meant (I don't know about) Pete "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hutha.8868$[email hidden]... > http://209.242.93.9/racereaper/results/kotmqualifyooooZUQWROFXJHZU.html > > Fartmeister whoever he is runs 51 laps with an average of 190.235 at81

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> degrees! > I don't about being cheap or cheating but I'm amazed that no one says > anything in > this league with incredible numbers like these. > > Pete > >

Kevin, you talked about being cheap. Somebody who read your post just sent me this partial log from a few days ago. It was a Texas race and I think you know the people. Are they cheap as well? Derek_Wood: i'm down to around 500 rr spring, afraid to go any lower JG24fan_FLM*: im at 600 Derek_Wood: lol JG24fan_FLM*: lol Derek_Wood: that 398 setup has 1720 front weight though JG24fan_FLM*: mines like 1730 or so "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hutha.8868$[email hidden]... > http://209.242.93.9/racereaper/results/kotmqualifyooooZUQWROFXJHZU.html > > Fartmeister whoever he is runs 51 laps with an average of 190.235 at81

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> degrees! > I don't about being cheap or cheating but I'm amazed that no one says > anything in > this league with incredible numbers like these. > > Pete > >

1730 weight, as opposed to what? 1830? Does it work? Do they use aids? "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:L7uha.8898$[email hidden]... Kevin, you talked about being cheap. Somebody who read your post just sent me this partial log from a few days ago. It was a Texas race and I think you know the people. Are they cheap as well? Derek_Wood: i'm down to around 500 rr spring, afraid to go any lower JG24fan_FLM*: im at 600 Derek_Wood: lol JG24fan_FLM*: lol Derek_Wood: that 398 setup has 1720 front weight though JG24fan_FLM*: mines like 1730 or so "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hutha.8868$[email hidden]... > http://209.242.93.9/racereaper/results/kotmqualifyooooZUQWROFXJHZU.html > > Fartmeister whoever he is runs 51 laps with an average of 190.235 at 81

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> degrees! > I don't about being cheap or cheating but I'm amazed that no one says > anything in > this league with incredible numbers like these. > > Pete > >

Pete he has a double standard.. You and I are required to run 1830.. but his buds can run 1720 and he says nothing.. .what a jerk DW "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gwuha.16498$qF3.8859@fed1read04... 1730 weight, as opposed to what? 1830? Does it work? Do they use aids? "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:L7uha.8898$[email hidden]... Kevin, you talked about being cheap. Somebody who read your post just sent me this partial log from a few days ago. It was a Texas race and I think you know the people. Are they cheap as well? Derek_Wood: i'm down to around 500 rr spring, afraid to go any lower JG24fan_FLM*: im at 600 Derek_Wood: lol JG24fan_FLM*: lol Derek_Wood: that 398 setup has 1720 front weight though JG24fan_FLM*: mines like 1730 or so "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hutha.8868$[email hidden]... > http://209.242.93.9/racereaper/results/kotmqualifyooooZUQWROFXJHZU.html > > Fartmeister whoever he is runs 51 laps with an average of 190.235 at 81

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> degrees! > I don't about being cheap or cheating but I'm amazed that no one says > anything in > this league with incredible numbers like these. > > Pete > >

I'm assuming with that much back weight driving aids are turned on. Which ones ? Also how much is the Wheel settings tweaked in options ? Is there a way to disable this from a server i.e. Hardcore mode ? I say we go back to FASTLAP ( IVGA Humor) -- Paul "Tarrant" Yuknis #48 Jesus Saves Chevrolet Monte Carlo http://www.RacingForJesus.com "Turning Left ....... Living Right !" "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:J4vha.51603$[email hidden]... Pete he has a double standard.. You and I are required to run 1830.. but his buds can run 1720 and he says nothing.. .what a jerk DW "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gwuha.16498$qF3.8859@fed1read04... 1730 weight, as opposed to what? 1830? Does it work? Do they use aids? "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:L7uha.8898$[email hidden]... Kevin, you talked about being cheap. Somebody who read your post just sent me this partial log from a few days ago. It was a Texas race and I think you know the people. Are they cheap as well? Derek_Wood: i'm down to around 500 rr spring, afraid to go any lower JG24fan_FLM*: im at 600 Derek_Wood: lol JG24fan_FLM*: lol Derek_Wood: that 398 setup has 1720 front weight though JG24fan_FLM*: mines like 1730 or so "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hutha.8868$[email hidden]... > http://209.242.93.9/racereaper/results/kotmqualifyooooZUQWROFXJHZU.html > > Fartmeister whoever he is runs 51 laps with an average of 190.235 at 81 > degrees! > I don't about being cheap or cheating but I'm amazed that no one says > anything in > this league with incredible numbers like these. > > Pete > >

The weather was cloudy Pete. "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hutha.8868$[email hidden]... > http://209.242.93.9/racereaper/results/kotmqualifyooooZUQWROFXJHZU.html > > Fartmeister whoever he is runs 51 laps with an average of 190.235 at81

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> degrees! > I don't about being cheap or cheating but I'm amazed that no one says > anything in > this league with incredible numbers like these. > > Pete > >

LOL 1720 and Max rear weight and -150 wedge is slightly different loser. "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:J4vha.51603$[email hidden]... Pete he has a double standard.. You and I are required to run 1830.. but his buds can run 1720 and he says nothing.. .what a jerk DW "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gwuha.16498$qF3.8859@fed1read04... 1730 weight, as opposed to what? 1830? Does it work? Do they use aids? "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:L7uha.8898$[email hidden]... Kevin, you talked about being cheap. Somebody who read your post just sent me this partial log from a few days ago. It was a Texas race and I think you know the people. Are they cheap as well? Derek_Wood: i'm down to around 500 rr spring, afraid to go any lower JG24fan_FLM*: im at 600 Derek_Wood: lol JG24fan_FLM*: lol Derek_Wood: that 398 setup has 1720 front weight though JG24fan_FLM*: mines like 1730 or so "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hutha.8868$[email hidden]... > http://209.242.93.9/racereaper/results/kotmqualifyooooZUQWROFXJHZU.html > > Fartmeister whoever he is runs 51 laps with an average of 190.235 at 81

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> degrees! > I don't about being cheap or cheating but I'm amazed that no one says > anything in > this league with incredible numbers like these. > > Pete > >

Its a combination of springs, bars and weight. Then you need to adjust castor, camber and tires to keep you from getting loose when exiting the turn. One thing that is being overlooked by many is tire pressures. No aids needed if done right. You will have to alter your driving line depending where you are in the run. Pete "Paul D. Yuknis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QBAha.22878$Zo.7307@sccrnsc03... I'm assuming with that much back weight driving aids are turned on. Which ones ? Also how much is the Wheel settings tweaked in options ? Is there a way to disable this from a server i.e. Hardcore mode ? I say we go back to FASTLAP ( IVGA Humor) -- Paul "Tarrant" Yuknis #48 Jesus Saves Chevrolet Monte Carlo http://www.RacingForJesus.com

Bill, I realize that but he was hitting 191's on lap 30. As soon as anyone started to gain he seemingly picked the pace up by dropping 3/4 of sec off his lap times. He even made a pass 3 wide in the corner getting the first and second place car at the time. He was terrible at his pit stops and kept getting Bf'd. There were some very good drivers in the race several quit in disgust. Pete "Bill Bollinger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > The weather was cloudy Pete. > > >

That's understandable Pete, I have done so many things to try to get faster there, some of which worked, but I don't see how you can be both super fast and last. "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:znFha.138$[email hidden]... Bill, I realize that but he was hitting 191's on lap 30. As soon as anyone started to gain he seemingly picked the pace up by dropping 3/4 of sec off his lap times. He even made a pass 3 wide in the corner getting the first and second place car at the time. He was terrible at his pit stops and kept getting Bf'd. There were some very good drivers in the race several quit in disgust. Pete "Bill Bollinger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > The weather was cloudy Pete. > > >

I went and looked at his stats in the league and it appears on short runs where no pits are required he is gone. But last night they ran a 50% race and where others were doing pitting laps under green in 42 seconds (if I recall) he was 70+ seconds. He then had to come back around(must have been a BF and had a 90 sec lap) He then was 3 laps down with 20 some laps to go and ended up on the lead lap by the end. He was gaining 4 seconds a lap and the leader at the end of the race only had 3 laps more on his tires than the Fart. Pete "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:VvFha.21524$qF3.304@fed1read04... That's understandable Pete, I have done so many things to try to get faster there, some of which worked, but I don't see how you can be both super fast and last.

Paul: I beleive Derek Woods and JG24 and they swear they dont use aids.. why do i believe it as i have got setups from Pete Reston that can run 1680 without using aids as well. Aides only make you slower. DW "Paul D. Yuknis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QBAha.22878$Zo.7307@sccrnsc03... I'm assuming with that much back weight driving aids are turned on. Which ones ? Also how much is the Wheel settings tweaked in options ? Is there a way to disable this from a server i.e. Hardcore mode ? I say we go back to FASTLAP ( IVGA Humor) -- Paul "Tarrant" Yuknis #48 Jesus Saves Chevrolet Monte Carlo http://www.RacingForJesus.com "Turning Left ....... Living Right !" "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:J4vha.51603$[email hidden]... Pete he has a double standard.. You and I are required to run 1830.. but his buds can run 1720 and he says nothing.. .what a jerk DW "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gwuha.16498$qF3.8859@fed1read04... 1730 weight, as opposed to what? 1830? Does it work? Do they use aids? "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:L7uha.8898$[email hidden]... Kevin, you talked about being cheap. Somebody who read your post just sent me this partial log from a few days ago. It was a Texas race and I think you know the people. Are they cheap as well? Derek_Wood: i'm down to around 500 rr spring, afraid to go any lower JG24fan_FLM*: im at 600 Derek_Wood: lol JG24fan_FLM*: lol Derek_Wood: that 398 setup has 1720 front weight though JG24fan_FLM*: mines like 1730 or so "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hutha.8868$[email hidden]... > http://209.242.93.9/racereaper/results/kotmqualifyooooZUQWROFXJHZU.html > > Fartmeister whoever he is runs 51 laps with an average of 190.235 at 81

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> degrees! > I don't about being cheap or cheating but I'm amazed that no one says > anything in > this league with incredible numbers like these. > > Pete > >

The driver made up 2.6 laps last night over Aubrey James. Aubrey was running low 29's and he ran low 28's for last 51 laps.. 81 clear... Bill what you say? Go look at the KOTM Snugcast lap times DW "Bill Bollinger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> The weather was cloudy Pete. > > > "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:hutha.8868$[email hidden]... > > http://209.242.93.9/racereaper/results/kotmqualifyooooZUQWROFXJHZU.html > > > > Fartmeister whoever he is runs 51 laps with an average of 190.235 at > 81 > > degrees! > > I don't about being cheap or cheating but I'm amazed that no one says > > anything in > > this league with incredible numbers like these. > > > > Pete > > > > > > >

Why do you use them then? "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ApGha.76177$[email hidden]... Paul: I beleive Derek Woods and JG24 and they swear they dont use aids.. why do i believe it as i have got setups from Pete Reston that can run 1680 without using aids as well. Aides only make you slower. DW "Paul D. Yuknis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QBAha.22878$Zo.7307@sccrnsc03... I'm assuming with that much back weight driving aids are turned on. Which ones ? Also how much is the Wheel settings tweaked in options ? Is there a way to disable this from a server i.e. Hardcore mode ? I say we go back to FASTLAP ( IVGA Humor) -- Paul "Tarrant" Yuknis #48 Jesus Saves Chevrolet Monte Carlo http://www.RacingForJesus.com "Turning Left ....... Living Right !" "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:J4vha.51603$[email hidden]... Pete he has a double standard.. You and I are required to run 1830.. but his buds can run 1720 and he says nothing.. .what a jerk DW "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gwuha.16498$qF3.8859@fed1read04... 1730 weight, as opposed to what? 1830? Does it work? Do they use aids? "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:L7uha.8898$[email hidden]... Kevin, you talked about being cheap. Somebody who read your post just sent me this partial log from a few days ago. It was a Texas race and I think you know the people. Are they cheap as well? Derek_Wood: i'm down to around 500 rr spring, afraid to go any lower JG24fan_FLM*: im at 600 Derek_Wood: lol JG24fan_FLM*: lol Derek_Wood: that 398 setup has 1720 front weight though JG24fan_FLM*: mines like 1730 or so "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hutha.8868$[email hidden]... > http://209.242.93.9/racereaper/results/kotmqualifyooooZUQWROFXJHZU.html > > Fartmeister whoever he is runs 51 laps with an average of 190.235 at 81

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> degrees! > I don't about being cheap or cheating but I'm amazed that no one says > anything in > this league with incredible numbers like these. > > Pete > >

I don't understand your last sentence....isn't the Fart guy the suspicious one? "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:HLFha.197$[email hidden]... I went and looked at his stats in the league and it appears on short runs where no pits are required he is gone. But last night they ran a 50% race and where others were doing pitting laps under green in 42 seconds (if I recall) he was 70+ seconds. He then had to come back around(must have been a BF and had a 90 sec lap) He then was 3 laps down with 20 some laps to go and ended up on the lead lap by the end. He was gaining 4 seconds a lap and the leader at the end of the race only had 3 laps more on his tires than the Fart. Pete "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:VvFha.21524$qF3.304@fed1read04... That's understandable Pete, I have done so many things to try to get faster there, some of which worked, but I don't see how you can be both super fast and last.

In article <ZFGha.21538$qF3.17787@fed1read04>, Kevin King <[email hidden]> writes >I don't understand your last sentence....isn't the Fart guy the suspicious one? His last sentence says that the fart guy was gaining on the leader by 4 seconds a lap, despite the fact that the leader's tires were only 3 laps older than his. So, yes the Fart guy is the suspicious one.

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> "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:HLFha.197$ >[email hidden]... > I went and looked at his stats in the league and it appears on short runs > where no pits are required he is gone. But last night they ran a 50% race > and where others were doing pitting laps under green in 42 seconds (if > I recall) he was 70+ seconds. He then had to come back around(must > have been a BF and had a 90 sec lap) He then was 3 laps down with > 20 some laps to go and ended up on the lead lap by the end. He was > gaining 4 seconds a lap and the leader at the end of the race only had > 3 laps more on his tires than the Fart. > > Pete > "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:VvFha. >21524$qF3.304@fed1read04... > That's understandable Pete, I have done so many things to try to get >faster there, some of which worked, but I don't see how you can be both >super fast and last.

-- Peter Ives (AKA Pete Ivington) Remove ALL_STRESS before replying via email If you know what's good for you, don't listen to me :) GPLRank Joystick -50.63 Wheel -21.77

Ahh yeah, too tired heeh thanks. "Peter Ives" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... In article <ZFGha.21538$qF3.17787@fed1read04>, Kevin King <[email hidden]> writes >I don't understand your last sentence....isn't the Fart guy the suspicious one? His last sentence says that the fart guy was gaining on the leader by 4 seconds a lap, despite the fact that the leader's tires were only 3 laps older than his. So, yes the Fart guy is the suspicious one.

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> "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:HLFha.197$ >[email hidden]... > I went and looked at his stats in the league and it appears on short runs > where no pits are required he is gone. But last night they ran a 50% race > and where others were doing pitting laps under green in 42 seconds (if > I recall) he was 70+ seconds. He then had to come back around(must > have been a BF and had a 90 sec lap) He then was 3 laps down with > 20 some laps to go and ended up on the lead lap by the end. He was > gaining 4 seconds a lap and the leader at the end of the race only had > 3 laps more on his tires than the Fart. > > Pete > "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:VvFha. >21524$qF3.304@fed1read04... > That's understandable Pete, I have done so many things to try to get >faster there, some of which worked, but I don't see how you can be both >super fast and last.

-- Peter Ives (AKA Pete Ivington) Remove ALL_STRESS before replying via email If you know what's good for you, don't listen to me :) GPLRank Joystick -50.63 Wheel -21.77

Ahh yeah, too tired heeh thanks. >I don't understand your last sentence....isn't the Fart guy the suspicious one? His last sentence says that the fart guy was gaining on the leader by 4 seconds a lap, despite the fact that the leader's tires were only 3 laps older than his. So, yes the Fart guy is the suspicious one.

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> I went and looked at his stats in the league and it appears on short runs > where no pits are required he is gone. But last night they ran a 50% race > and where others were doing pitting laps under green in 42 seconds (if > I recall) he was 70+ seconds. He then had to come back around(must > have been a BF and had a 90 sec lap) He then was 3 laps down with > 20 some laps to go and ended up on the lead lap by the end. He was > gaining 4 seconds a lap and the leader at the end of the race only had > 3 laps more on his tires than the Fart. > > Pete > That's understandable Pete, I have done so many things to try to get >faster there, some of which worked, but I don't see how you can be both >super fast and last.

-- Peter Ives (AKA Pete Ivington) Remove ALL_STRESS before replying via email If you know what's good for you, don't listen to me :) GPLRank Joystick -50.63 Wheel -21.77

i dont cant u read... i used 2. dw "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:NzGha.21536$qF3.14860@fed1read04... Why do you use them then? "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ApGha.76177$[email hidden]... Paul: I beleive Derek Woods and JG24 and they swear they dont use aids.. why do i believe it as i have got setups from Pete Reston that can run 1680 without using aids as well. Aides only make you slower. DW "Paul D. Yuknis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QBAha.22878$Zo.7307@sccrnsc03... I'm assuming with that much back weight driving aids are turned on. Which ones ? Also how much is the Wheel settings tweaked in options ? Is there a way to disable this from a server i.e. Hardcore mode ? I say we go back to FASTLAP ( IVGA Humor) -- Paul "Tarrant" Yuknis #48 Jesus Saves Chevrolet Monte Carlo http://www.RacingForJesus.com "Turning Left ....... Living Right !" "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:J4vha.51603$[email hidden]... Pete he has a double standard.. You and I are required to run 1830.. but his buds can run 1720 and he says nothing.. .what a jerk DW "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gwuha.16498$qF3.8859@fed1read04... 1730 weight, as opposed to what? 1830? Does it work? Do they use aids? "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:L7uha.8898$[email hidden]... Kevin, you talked about being cheap. Somebody who read your post just sent me this partial log from a few days ago. It was a Texas race and I think you know the people. Are they cheap as well? Derek_Wood: i'm down to around 500 rr spring, afraid to go any lower JG24fan_FLM*: im at 600 Derek_Wood: lol JG24fan_FLM*: lol Derek_Wood: that 398 setup has 1720 front weight though JG24fan_FLM*: mines like 1730 or so "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hutha.8868$[email hidden]... > http://209.242.93.9/racereaper/results/kotmqualifyooooZUQWROFXJHZU.html > > Fartmeister whoever he is runs 51 laps with an average of 190.235 at 81

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> degrees! > I don't about being cheap or cheating but I'm amazed that no one says > anything in > this league with incredible numbers like these. > > Pete > >

Hmm when did this occur? Like last week you told me you used them, and got the best RF wear. "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9hIha.77366$[email hidden]... i dont cant u read... i used 2. dw "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:NzGha.21536$qF3.14860@fed1read04... Why do you use them then? "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ApGha.76177$[email hidden]... Paul: I beleive Derek Woods and JG24 and they swear they dont use aids.. why do i believe it as i have got setups from Pete Reston that can run 1680 without using aids as well. Aides only make you slower. DW "Paul D. Yuknis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QBAha.22878$Zo.7307@sccrnsc03... I'm assuming with that much back weight driving aids are turned on. Which ones ? Also how much is the Wheel settings tweaked in options ? Is there a way to disable this from a server i.e. Hardcore mode ? I say we go back to FASTLAP ( IVGA Humor) -- Paul "Tarrant" Yuknis #48 Jesus Saves Chevrolet Monte Carlo http://www.RacingForJesus.com "Turning Left ....... Living Right !" "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:J4vha.51603$[email hidden]... Pete he has a double standard.. You and I are required to run 1830.. but his buds can run 1720 and he says nothing.. .what a jerk DW "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gwuha.16498$qF3.8859@fed1read04... 1730 weight, as opposed to what? 1830? Does it work? Do they use aids? "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:L7uha.8898$[email hidden]... Kevin, you talked about being cheap. Somebody who read your post just sent me this partial log from a few days ago. It was a Texas race and I think you know the people. Are they cheap as well? Derek_Wood: i'm down to around 500 rr spring, afraid to go any lower JG24fan_FLM*: im at 600 Derek_Wood: lol JG24fan_FLM*: lol Derek_Wood: that 398 setup has 1720 front weight though JG24fan_FLM*: mines like 1730 or so "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hutha.8868$[email hidden]... > http://209.242.93.9/racereaper/results/kotmqualifyooooZUQWROFXJHZU.html > > Fartmeister whoever he is runs 51 laps with an average of 190.235 at 81

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> degrees! > I don't about being cheap or cheating but I'm amazed that no one says > anything in > this league with incredible numbers like these. > > Pete > >

No remember.... Got the best RF tire wear from the 1680.. lol.. Not the Aides... You guys was giving me a hard time for using aides which are suppose to be slower in Nascar 2002, but I was faster.. So I tried turning them off and I got faster. Remember.. Lets do for KK Stock Car Racing 101 Balance the car with Forward Weight.. that control tire wear on the right side.. Now can you remember this!! Why did i do this cause Derek and JG24 use 1730 and i was able because of my wheel run less forward weight.. Now you call me cheap for running these weights but its ok for Derek and JG24.. You call me cheap for doing what is only in the game. ITS IN THE GAME... DIG IT OUT AND USE IT!! DW "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jkIha.21548$qF3.13289@fed1read04... Hmm when did this occur? Like last week you told me you used them, and got the best RF wear. "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9hIha.77366$[email hidden]... i dont cant u read... i used 2. dw "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:NzGha.21536$qF3.14860@fed1read04... Why do you use them then? "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ApGha.76177$[email hidden]... Paul: I beleive Derek Woods and JG24 and they swear they dont use aids.. why do i believe it as i have got setups from Pete Reston that can run 1680 without using aids as well. Aides only make you slower. DW "Paul D. Yuknis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QBAha.22878$Zo.7307@sccrnsc03... I'm assuming with that much back weight driving aids are turned on. Which ones ? Also how much is the Wheel settings tweaked in options ? Is there a way to disable this from a server i.e. Hardcore mode ? I say we go back to FASTLAP ( IVGA Humor) -- Paul "Tarrant" Yuknis #48 Jesus Saves Chevrolet Monte Carlo http://www.RacingForJesus.com "Turning Left ....... Living Right !" "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:J4vha.51603$[email hidden]... Pete he has a double standard.. You and I are required to run 1830.. but his buds can run 1720 and he says nothing.. .what a jerk DW "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gwuha.16498$qF3.8859@fed1read04... 1730 weight, as opposed to what? 1830? Does it work? Do they use aids? "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:L7uha.8898$[email hidden]... Kevin, you talked about being cheap. Somebody who read your post just sent me this partial log from a few days ago. It was a Texas race and I think you know the people. Are they cheap as well? Derek_Wood: i'm down to around 500 rr spring, afraid to go any lower JG24fan_FLM*: im at 600 Derek_Wood: lol JG24fan_FLM*: lol Derek_Wood: that 398 setup has 1720 front weight though JG24fan_FLM*: mines like 1730 or so "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hutha.8868$[email hidden]... > http://209.242.93.9/racereaper/results/kotmqualifyooooZUQWROFXJHZU.html > > Fartmeister whoever he is runs 51 laps with an average of 190.235 at 81

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> degrees! > I don't about being cheap or cheating but I'm amazed that no one says > anything in > this league with incredible numbers like these. > > Pete > >

Why dont you ever post your setups KK.. I have given out hundreds.. Don "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aAIha.77555$[email hidden]... No remember.... Got the best RF tire wear from the 1680.. lol.. Not the Aides... You guys was giving me a hard time for using aides which are suppose to be slower in Nascar 2002, but I was faster.. So I tried turning them off and I got faster. Remember.. Lets do for KK Stock Car Racing 101 Balance the car with Forward Weight.. that control tire wear on the right side.. Now can you remember this!! Why did i do this cause Derek and JG24 use 1730 and i was able because of my wheel run less forward weight.. Now you call me cheap for running these weights but its ok for Derek and JG24.. You call me cheap for doing what is only in the game. ITS IN THE GAME... DIG IT OUT AND USE IT!! DW "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jkIha.21548$qF3.13289@fed1read04... Hmm when did this occur? Like last week you told me you used them, and got the best RF wear. "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9hIha.77366$[email hidden]... i dont cant u read... i used 2. dw "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:NzGha.21536$qF3.14860@fed1read04... Why do you use them then? "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ApGha.76177$[email hidden]... Paul: I beleive Derek Woods and JG24 and they swear they dont use aids.. why do i believe it as i have got setups from Pete Reston that can run 1680 without using aids as well. Aides only make you slower. DW "Paul D. Yuknis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QBAha.22878$Zo.7307@sccrnsc03... I'm assuming with that much back weight driving aids are turned on. Which ones ? Also how much is the Wheel settings tweaked in options ? Is there a way to disable this from a server i.e. Hardcore mode ? I say we go back to FASTLAP ( IVGA Humor) -- Paul "Tarrant" Yuknis #48 Jesus Saves Chevrolet Monte Carlo http://www.RacingForJesus.com "Turning Left ....... Living Right !" "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:J4vha.51603$[email hidden]... Pete he has a double standard.. You and I are required to run 1830.. but his buds can run 1720 and he says nothing.. .what a jerk DW "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gwuha.16498$qF3.8859@fed1read04... 1730 weight, as opposed to what? 1830? Does it work? Do they use aids? "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:L7uha.8898$[email hidden]... Kevin, you talked about being cheap. Somebody who read your post just sent me this partial log from a few days ago. It was a Texas race and I think you know the people. Are they cheap as well? Derek_Wood: i'm down to around 500 rr spring, afraid to go any lower JG24fan_FLM*: im at 600 Derek_Wood: lol JG24fan_FLM*: lol Derek_Wood: that 398 setup has 1720 front weight though JG24fan_FLM*: mines like 1730 or so "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hutha.8868$[email hidden]... > http://209.242.93.9/racereaper/results/kotmqualifyooooZUQWROFXJHZU.html > > Fartmeister whoever he is runs 51 laps with an average of 190.235 at 81

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> degrees! > I don't about being cheap or cheating but I'm amazed that no one says > anything in > this league with incredible numbers like these. > > Pete > >

The weather was cloudy in that race. At least 4 tenths difference. Doesn't look unrealistic to me. "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5rGha.76191$[email hidden]...

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> The driver made up 2.6 laps last night over Aubrey James. Aubrey was > running low 29's and he ran low 28's for last 51 laps.. > 81 clear... Bill what you say? Go look at the KOTM Snugcast lap times > > DW > > > "Bill Bollinger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > The weather was cloudy Pete. > > > > > > "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:hutha.8868$[email hidden]... > > >

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> > 81 > > > degrees! > > > I don't about being cheap or cheating but I'm amazed that no one says > > > anything in > > > this league with incredible numbers like these. > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Yes, Fart is the suspicious one. But two races got talked about at the same so that it looks strange. Thats my fault. The short one I posted the link to was different from the one I watched last night. Pete "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZFGha.21538$qF3.17787@fed1read04... I don't understand your last sentence....isn't the Fart guy the suspicious one?

I guess you don't visit TLS often. I'm glad for you give out setups. My N2002 sets were posted on PROS.net. Think before you speak. "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%AIha.77566$[email hidden]... Why dont you ever post your setups KK.. I have given out hundreds.. Don "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aAIha.77555$[email hidden]... No remember.... Got the best RF tire wear from the 1680.. lol.. Not the Aides... You guys was giving me a hard time for using aides which are suppose to be slower in Nascar 2002, but I was faster.. So I tried turning them off and I got faster. Remember.. Lets do for KK Stock Car Racing 101 Balance the car with Forward Weight.. that control tire wear on the right side.. Now can you remember this!! Why did i do this cause Derek and JG24 use 1730 and i was able because of my wheel run less forward weight.. Now you call me cheap for running these weights but its ok for Derek and JG24.. You call me cheap for doing what is only in the game. ITS IN THE GAME... DIG IT OUT AND USE IT!! DW "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jkIha.21548$qF3.13289@fed1read04... Hmm when did this occur? Like last week you told me you used them, and got the best RF wear. "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9hIha.77366$[email hidden]... i dont cant u read... i used 2. dw "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:NzGha.21536$qF3.14860@fed1read04... Why do you use them then? "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ApGha.76177$[email hidden]... Paul: I beleive Derek Woods and JG24 and they swear they dont use aids.. why do i believe it as i have got setups from Pete Reston that can run 1680 without using aids as well. Aides only make you slower. DW "Paul D. Yuknis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QBAha.22878$Zo.7307@sccrnsc03... I'm assuming with that much back weight driving aids are turned on. Which ones ? Also how much is the Wheel settings tweaked in options ? Is there a way to disable this from a server i.e. Hardcore mode ? I say we go back to FASTLAP ( IVGA Humor) -- Paul "Tarrant" Yuknis #48 Jesus Saves Chevrolet Monte Carlo http://www.RacingForJesus.com "Turning Left ....... Living Right !" "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:J4vha.51603$[email hidden]... Pete he has a double standard.. You and I are required to run 1830.. but his buds can run 1720 and he says nothing.. .what a jerk DW "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gwuha.16498$qF3.8859@fed1read04... 1730 weight, as opposed to what? 1830? Does it work? Do they use aids? "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:L7uha.8898$[email hidden]... Kevin, you talked about being cheap. Somebody who read your post just sent me this partial log from a few days ago. It was a Texas race and I think you know the people. Are they cheap as well? Derek_Wood: i'm down to around 500 rr spring, afraid to go any lower JG24fan_FLM*: im at 600 Derek_Wood: lol JG24fan_FLM*: lol Derek_Wood: that 398 setup has 1720 front weight though JG24fan_FLM*: mines like 1730 or so "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hutha.8868$[email hidden]... > http://209.242.93.9/racereaper/results/kotmqualifyooooZUQWROFXJHZU.html > > Fartmeister whoever he is runs 51 laps with an average of 190.235 at 81

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> degrees! > I don't about being cheap or cheating but I'm amazed that no one says > anything in > this league with incredible numbers like these. > > Pete > >

But the other day you said you use aids because of a medical condition.....so which is it Don? "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aAIha.77555$[email hidden]... No remember.... Got the best RF tire wear from the 1680.. lol.. Not the Aides... You guys was giving me a hard time for using aides which are suppose to be slower in Nascar 2002, but I was faster.. So I tried turning them off and I got faster. Remember.. Lets do for KK Stock Car Racing 101 Balance the car with Forward Weight.. that control tire wear on the right side.. Now can you remember this!! Why did i do this cause Derek and JG24 use 1730 and i was able because of my wheel run less forward weight.. Now you call me cheap for running these weights but its ok for Derek and JG24.. You call me cheap for doing what is only in the game. ITS IN THE GAME... DIG IT OUT AND USE IT!! DW "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jkIha.21548$qF3.13289@fed1read04... Hmm when did this occur? Like last week you told me you used them, and got the best RF wear. "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9hIha.77366$[email hidden]... i dont cant u read... i used 2. dw "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:NzGha.21536$qF3.14860@fed1read04... Why do you use them then? "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ApGha.76177$[email hidden]... Paul: I beleive Derek Woods and JG24 and they swear they dont use aids.. why do i believe it as i have got setups from Pete Reston that can run 1680 without using aids as well. Aides only make you slower. DW "Paul D. Yuknis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QBAha.22878$Zo.7307@sccrnsc03... I'm assuming with that much back weight driving aids are turned on. Which ones ? Also how much is the Wheel settings tweaked in options ? Is there a way to disable this from a server i.e. Hardcore mode ? I say we go back to FASTLAP ( IVGA Humor) -- Paul "Tarrant" Yuknis #48 Jesus Saves Chevrolet Monte Carlo http://www.RacingForJesus.com "Turning Left ....... Living Right !" "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:J4vha.51603$[email hidden]... Pete he has a double standard.. You and I are required to run 1830.. but his buds can run 1720 and he says nothing.. .what a jerk DW "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gwuha.16498$qF3.8859@fed1read04... 1730 weight, as opposed to what? 1830? Does it work? Do they use aids? "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:L7uha.8898$[email hidden]... Kevin, you talked about being cheap. Somebody who read your post just sent me this partial log from a few days ago. It was a Texas race and I think you know the people. Are they cheap as well? Derek_Wood: i'm down to around 500 rr spring, afraid to go any lower JG24fan_FLM*: im at 600 Derek_Wood: lol JG24fan_FLM*: lol Derek_Wood: that 398 setup has 1720 front weight though JG24fan_FLM*: mines like 1730 or so "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hutha.8868$[email hidden]... > http://209.242.93.9/racereaper/results/kotmqualifyooooZUQWROFXJHZU.html > > Fartmeister whoever he is runs 51 laps with an average of 190.235 at 81

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> degrees! > I don't about being cheap or cheating but I'm amazed that no one says > anything in > this league with incredible numbers like these. > > Pete > >

What about Fartmesiter lapping A James 2.5 twice in the KOTM feature race.. they both pit the same time. Fart meister get BF so he has to pit. He screws up the pitting and goes more than 2 laps down.. Now AJ isnt slow as he has won the last 4 KOTM races.. Fastmester runs 2 to 4 seconds a lap faster than AJ and makes up 2 1/2 laps. What you say Mr. Amish dw "Bill Bollinger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > The weather was cloudy in that race. At least 4 tenths difference.Doesn't

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> look unrealistic to me. > > > "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:5rGha.76191$[email hidden]... > > The driver made up 2.6 laps last night over Aubrey James. Aubrey was > > running low 29's and he ran low 28's for last 51 laps.. > > 81 clear... Bill what you say? Go look at the KOTM Snugcast lap times > > > > DW > > > > > > "Bill Bollinger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > The weather was cloudy Pete. > > > > > > > > > "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:hutha.8868$[email hidden]... > > > > > http://209.242.93.9/racereaper/results/kotmqualifyooooZUQWROFXJHZU.html > > > > > > > > Fartmeister whoever he is runs 51 laps with an average of

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> > > > anything in > > > > this league with incredible numbers like these. > > > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I think he cheats. :) 2-4 seconds a lap though. I mean if he's (AJ) running 29.0 you're saying the other guy is running 27.0-25.0s. Got a replay? "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YgJha.64961$[email hidden]... What about Fartmesiter lapping A James 2.5 twice in the KOTM feature race.. they both pit the same time. Fart meister get BF so he has to pit. He screws up the pitting and goes more than 2 laps down.. Now AJ isnt slow as he has won the last 4 KOTM races.. Fastmester runs 2 to 4 seconds a lap faster than AJ and makes up 2 1/2 laps. What you say Mr. Amish dw "Bill Bollinger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > The weather was cloudy in that race. At least 4 tenths difference. Doesn't

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> look unrealistic to me. > > > "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:5rGha.76191$[email hidden]... > > The driver made up 2.6 laps last night over Aubrey James. Aubrey was > > running low 29's and he ran low 28's for last 51 laps.. > > 81 clear... Bill what you say? Go look at the KOTM Snugcast lap times > > > > DW > > > > > > "Bill Bollinger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > The weather was cloudy Pete. > > > > > > > > > "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:hutha.8868$[email hidden]... > > > > > http://209.242.93.9/racereaper/results/kotmqualifyooooZUQWROFXJHZU.html > > > > > > > > Fartmeister whoever he is runs 51 laps with an average of

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> > > > anything in > > > > this league with incredible numbers like these. > > > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Oh so he's done it more than once. Well I mean the way I see it. When I ran KOTMs you'd have a week full of speeds, avg race laps, blaps, you knew what people ran and what was good, then when you got that 1 person who was 3-4 tenths faster than anyone all week, that's when it gets weird. I mean that's like hundreds of people, then one person pops up and blows everyone away. That's when it gets strange to me. "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:XcJha.480$[email hidden]... Yes, Fart is the suspicious one. But two races got talked about at the same so that it looks strange. Thats my fault. The short one I posted the link to was different from the one I watched last night. Pete "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZFGha.21538$qF3.17787@fed1read04... I don't understand your last sentence....isn't the Fart guy the suspicious one?

http://www.iracingfx.com/snugcast/snugcast.asp compare farts vs AJ's times "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:VlJha.21563$qF3.14257@fed1read04... I think he cheats. :) 2-4 seconds a lap though. I mean if he's (AJ) running 29.0 you're saying the other guy is running 27.0-25.0s. Got a replay?

Just saying, that based on that race export that Pete posted, that he doesn't look that great. I think you also mean to say .2 to .4 per lap faster. "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YgJha.64961$[email hidden]... > What about Fartmesiter lapping A James 2.5 twice in the KOTM featurerace.. > they > both pit the same time. Fart meister get BF so he has to pit. Hescrews > up the > pitting and goes more than 2 laps down.. Now AJ isnt slow as he has wonthe

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> last 4 KOTM races.. Fastmester runs 2 to 4 seconds a lap faster than AJ > and > makes up 2 1/2 laps. What you say Mr. Amish > > dw > > > "Bill Bollinger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > The weather was cloudy in that race. At least 4 tenths difference. > Doesn't > > look unrealistic to me. > > > > > > "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:5rGha.76191$[email hidden]... > > > The driver made up 2.6 laps last night over Aubrey James. Aubrey

was > > > running low 29's and he ran low 28's for last 51 laps.. > > > 81 clear... Bill what you say? Go look at the KOTM Snugcast laptimes

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> > > > > > DW > > > > > > > > > "Bill Bollinger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > The weather was cloudy Pete. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:hutha.8868$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > http://209.242.93.9/racereaper/results/kotmqualifyooooZUQWROFXJHZU.html > > > > > > > > > > Fartmeister whoever he is runs 51 laps with an average of > 190.235 > > at > > > > 81 > > > > > degrees! > > > > > I don't about being cheap or cheating but I'm amazed that no one > says > > > > > anything in > > > > > this league with incredible numbers like these. > > > > > > > > > > Pete > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I haven't tested the different temps, but he is around .5 seconds faster than me at lap 30. "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:yqJha.65016$[email hidden]... http://www.iracingfx.com/snugcast/snugcast.asp compare farts vs AJ's times "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:VlJha.21563$qF3.14257@fed1read04... I think he cheats. :) 2-4 seconds a lap though. I mean if he's (AJ) running 29.0 you're saying the other guy is running 27.0-25.0s. Got a replay?

Also that Jake Barr seems fast, did he get wrecked? "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:yqJha.65016$[email hidden]... http://www.iracingfx.com/snugcast/snugcast.asp compare farts vs AJ's times "Kevin King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:VlJha.21563$qF3.14257@fed1read04... I think he cheats. :) 2-4 seconds a lap though. I mean if he's (AJ) running 29.0 you're saying the other guy is running 27.0-25.0s. Got a replay?

No the race last night he was making up 4 seconds a lap over the last 5 laps or so of the race. At least thats what was showing in the live update. Pete "Bill Bollinger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Just saying, that based on that race export that Pete posted, that he > doesn't look that great. I think you also mean to say .2 to .4 per lap > faster. >

In article <%AIha.77566$[email hidden]>, "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> writes: > >Why dont you ever post your setups KK.. I have given out hundreds..=20 >Don Can you guys please stop posting in HTML? It shows up as hard-to-read garbage for some of us... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-1.680 MonsterRank: +334.169 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

get a better news reader > Can you guys please stop posting in HTML? It shows up as hard-to-readgarbage > for some of us... >

How ironic.. RASCAR complaining about us posting.. lol DW "Ya OK" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Ko0ia.68458$[email hidden]...

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> get a better news reader > > > Can you guys please stop posting in HTML? It shows up as hard-to-read > garbage > > for some of us... > > > > >

Don Wilshe wrote: > > How ironic.. RASCAR complaining about us posting.. lol Nothing Ironic about it whatsoever, it wasn't a request for you to stop posting, it was a request to stop posting in HTML so he could actually read your posts Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

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> >get a better news reader > >> Can you guys please stop posting in HTML? It shows up as hard-to-read >garbage >> for some of us... >>

Ooh, *that's* an adult response... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-1.680 MonsterRank: +334.169 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <2B0ia.66949$[email hidden]>, "Don Wilshe" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>How ironic.. RASCAR complaining about us posting.. lol > >DW > > >"Ya OK" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:Ko0ia.68458$[email hidden]... >> get a better news reader >> >> > Can you guys please stop posting in HTML? It shows up as hard-to-read >> garbage >> > for some of us...

Ironic? How's that, Don? I asked you to stop posting in HTML, not to stop posting PERIOD... Touchy, ain't ya? Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-1.680 MonsterRank: +334.169 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Edlred: Didnt even know i was posting in HTML.. thanks for the heads up Don No problem buddy "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <2B0ia.66949$[email hidden]>, "Don Wilshe" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >How ironic.. RASCAR complaining about us posting.. lol > > > >DW > > > > > >"Ya OK" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:Ko0ia.68458$[email hidden]... > >> get a better news reader > >> > >> > Can you guys please stop posting in HTML? It shows up as

hard-to-read > >> garbage > >> > for some of us... > > Ironic? How's that, Don? I asked you to stop posting in HTML, not tostop

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> posting PERIOD... Touchy, ain't ya? > > Eldred > -- > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPLRank:-1.680 > MonsterRank: +334.169 > N2002 Rank:+17.59 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. >