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RASCAR: Next Race... which track???

22 posts by 8 people · 15 Apr 2003 12:58 UTC - 19 Apr 2003 18:39 UTC

RASCAR schedule mix-up and damage settings

Drivers were confused whether the next RASCAR race was California or the postponed Daytona race, and John Simmons confirmed the schedule had the dates reversed. David G Fisher proposed moderate damage for superspeedway races because slight contact made cars uncompetitive, but John opposed changing settings by track type.

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Brian Oster 15 Apr 2003 12:58 UTC#70507
Are we running California or making up he Daytona Race this week? Brian Oster
"Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3e9c603b$[email hidden]... > Brian Oster said: > > > Are we running California or making up he Daytona Race this week? > > As listed on our website... the Daytona race is rescheduled for the 26thof > April. > We were supposed to be making up the missed Daytona race this weekend since it's the off week. California is the following weekend. John mentioned somewhere here at r.a.s. in the past few days we were running Daytona this weekend as well. David G Fisher
That's what I thought too.... Toooona Toooona Toooona :) Larry "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (13 lines)> > "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3e9c603b$[email hidden]... > > Brian Oster said: > > > > > Are we running California or making up he Daytona Race this week? > > > > As listed on our website... the Daytona race is rescheduled for the 26th > of > > April. > > > > We were supposed to be making up the missed Daytona race this weekend
since
Quoted text (8 lines)> it's the off week. California is the following weekend. John mentioned > somewhere here at r.a.s. in the past few days we were running Daytona this > weekend as well. > > David G Fisher > > >
Right, the web site says one thing and I have seen posts here saying another, hence, my confusion. Brian Oster On Tue, 15 Apr 2003 16:14:59 -0400, "David G Fisher" >
Quoted text (8 lines)>We were supposed to be making up the missed Daytona race this weekend since >it's the off week. California is the following weekend. John mentioned >somewhere here at r.a.s. in the past few days we were running Daytona this >weekend as well. > >David G Fisher > >
In article <[email hidden]>, bgoster@swbell**nosmap**.com says... > Are we running California or making up he Daytona Race this week? > > Brian Oster > Ummm, the schedule has the two dates reversed. It's entirely my fault. The race this weekend will be the Daytona make-up race. Eldred, are you watching?
On Tue, 15 Apr 2003 20:22:46 GMT, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: >That's what I thought too.... > >Toooona Toooona Toooona :) > >Larry Shouldn't that be, toooga tooooga tooooga Toga party at Daytona ZZ Richard "ZZ" Busch Member: Screamers Racing League CORS RASCAR GPL Rank + 17.415 MoGPL Rank + 318.586 N2002 Rank + 7.695 http://www.ZZBusch.com ---------------- Busch Motorsports: Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward ----------------- Busch Carpentry: A good carpenter can nail anything -----------------
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Quoted text (12 lines)> > On Tue, 15 Apr 2003 20:22:46 GMT, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >That's what I thought too.... > > > >Toooona Toooona Toooona :) > > > >Larry > > Shouldn't that be, > > toooga tooooga tooooga
"Animal House" ? In that case.....ROAD TRIP !!! Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
> >Ummm, the schedule has the two dates reversed. It's entirely my >fault. The race this weekend will be the Daytona make-up race. > >Eldred, are you watching? > zzzzzzzz...*snort* Wha...huh? Um, yeah, no problem...zzzzzz..... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-1.680 MonsterRank: +334.169 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
It would be great if we could turn the damage down to moderate or even off. I'd love to run just one RASCAR SS race where I don't get wrecked from some dumb incident. I hate to criticize ouir group, but we've flat out stunk at the SS races so far and I didn't see any trend towards things getting better at Talladega. Same dumb mistakes were made in technique and strategy as in the first SS race we ran last year. I'd rather there be a large field for the entire race then a small field half way through with a few unfortunates being constantly lapped through no fault of their own, and eventually quitting in disgust. David G Fisher "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qSZma.112401$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (16 lines)> That's what I thought too.... > > Toooona Toooona Toooona :) > > Larry > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:3e9c603b$[email hidden]... > > > Brian Oster said: > > > > > > > Are we running California or making up he Daytona Race this week? > > > > > > As listed on our website... the Daytona race is rescheduled for the
26th
Quoted text (8 lines)> > of > > > April. > > > > > > > We were supposed to be making up the missed Daytona race this weekend > since > > it's the off week. California is the following weekend. John mentioned > > somewhere here at r.a.s. in the past few days we were running Daytona
this
Quoted text (8 lines)> > weekend as well. > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > >
"John Simmons" said: > Ummm, the schedule has the two dates reversed. It's entirely my > fault. The race this weekend will be the Daytona make-up race. > Dammit! Seems liike I'm forced to miss the second SS-race this season :-( GRRRR! Shedule has been/will be corrected. -- ed_
>It would be great if we could turn the damage down to moderate or even off. What's the difference between 'moderate' and 'realistic'? I'm at work now, so I don't have the manual handy... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-1.680 MonsterRank: +334.169 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >It would be great if we could turn the damage down to moderate or evenoff. > > What's the difference between 'moderate' and 'realistic'? I'm at worknow, so > I don't have the manual handy... > > Eldred It says in the manual that your car will sustain minimal damage during hard collisions, and to remember that regardless of whatever damage setting you choose, it only applies to collision damage and that you can still blow an engine or wear your tires due to abuse. I'd prefer we use moderate, or turn it off so so many cars aren't taken out of the race due to aero damage from silly mistakes. At least for one race. David G Fisher
I have mixed feelings on this, but I lean toward agreeing. If for no other reason than the hope of getting the stoopid random-damage thing out of the way. Larry "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > It would be great if we could turn the damage down to moderate or evenoff. > > I'd love to run just one RASCAR SS race where I don't get wrecked fromsome > dumb incident. I hate to criticize ouir group, but we've flat out stunk at > the SS races so far and I didn't see any trend towards things gettingbetter > at Talladega. Same dumb mistakes were made in technique and strategy as in > the first SS race we ran last year. > > I'd rather there be a large field for the entire race then a small field > half way through with a few unfortunates being constantly lapped throughno
Quoted text (42 lines)> fault of their own, and eventually quitting in disgust. > > David G Fisher > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:qSZma.112401$[email hidden]... > > That's what I thought too.... > > > > Toooona Toooona Toooona :) > > > > Larry > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:3e9c603b$[email hidden]... > > > > Brian Oster said: > > > > > > > > > Are we running California or making up he Daytona Race this week? > > > > > > > > As listed on our website... the Daytona race is rescheduled for the > 26th > > > of > > > > April. > > > > > > > > > > We were supposed to be making up the missed Daytona race this weekend > > since > > > it's the off week. California is the following weekend. John mentioned > > > somewhere here at r.a.s. in the past few days we were running Daytona > this > > > weekend as well. > > > > > > David G Fisher > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
I am against any change for a specific track type. You run the race, take your chances, and complain about the outcome just like the rest of us. In article <EkVna.128914$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
Quoted text (12 lines)> I have mixed feelings on this, but I lean toward agreeing. If for no other > reason than the hope of getting the stoopid random-damage thing out of the > way. > > Larry > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > It would be great if we could turn the damage down to moderate or even > off. > > > > I'd love to run just one RASCAR SS race where I don't get wrecked from
In article <[email hidden]>, John Simmons <[email hidden]> writes: >I am against any change for a specific track type. You run the race, >take your chances, and complain about the outcome just like the rest >of us. I thought they were asking about turning down the damage for ALL the races... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-1.950 MonsterRank: +305.145 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, JohnSimmons
Quoted text (7 lines)> <[email hidden]> writes: > > >I am against any change for a specific track type. You run the race, > >take your chances, and complain about the outcome just like the rest > >of us. > > I thought they were asking about turning down the damage for ALL the
races... > > Eldred No, just the SS races. As Pete said, a tiny bit of body damage in a SS race and the car is suddenly 20mph slower than the rest of the field which is completely unrealistic. This doesn't happen on other tracks of course. Changing to moderate damage would go a ways to correct this and provide for a better race for all of us. If the damage model was more realistic than I could maybe understand the reluctance of some to not want to do this for the SS races, but the game is screwed up as it is now. David G Fisher
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
Quoted text (25 lines)> > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <[email hidden]>, John > Simmons > > <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > >I am against any change for a specific track type. You run the race, > > >take your chances, and complain about the outcome just like the rest > > >of us. > > > > I thought they were asking about turning down the damage for ALL the > races... > > > > Eldred > > No, just the SS races. As Pete said, a tiny bit of body damage in a SS race > and the car is suddenly 20mph slower than the rest of the field which is > completely unrealistic. This doesn't happen on other tracks of course. > Changing to moderate damage would go a ways to correct this and provide for > a better race for all of us. If the damage model was more realistic than I > could maybe understand the reluctance of some to not want to do this for the > SS races, but the game is screwed up as it is now. > > David G Fisher
1) I think (or was at least hoping) that driving with realistic damage would create an atmosphere where everyone KNOWS that the slightest bit of damage would make their car uncompetitive until they pitted again. This should promote better driving, especially in a controlled environment where we don't have to worry about intentioanl wreckers. I think most/all of us make an honest effort to drive clean, but... 2) Shit happens Dave. As much as we'd like it to happen, we all can't have a perfect race every week - EVERYBODY makes mistakes. It's all fine and dandy to bitch and moan, but I honestly don't see how we're any better as drivers at any other kind of track than we are at the supers. It's just that mistakes are amplified at supers because of the importance of the draft. 3) If we lower the damage for supers, we should lower the damage for ALL tracks. I think we're stressing Eldred enough just to remember to start the server, we don't want him to have to remember to change the damage level for a given track as well. :) 4) I personally don't think we should lower the damage level, but I will defer to the majority. We are, afterall, here to have fun.
In article <[email hidden]>, John Simmons <[email hidden]> writes: >3) If we lower the damage for supers, we should lower the damage for >ALL tracks. I think we're stressing Eldred enough just to remember >to start the server, we don't want him to have to remember to change >the damage level for a given track as well. :) Thanks, John - I appreciate the vote of confidence...<g> Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-1.950 MonsterRank: +305.145 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
Quoted text (10 lines)> In article <[email hidden]>, John Simmons > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >3) If we lower the damage for supers, we should lower the damage for > >ALL tracks. I think we're stressing Eldred enough just to remember > >to start the server, we don't want him to have to remember to change > >the damage level for a given track as well. :) > > Thanks, John - I appreciate the vote of confidence...<g> >
Just a poke in the ribs to see if you were awake, ol' buddy... :)
I pretty much agree. Again, I would only be for it in respect to getting around the random-damage issue. Larry "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> I am against any change for a specific track type. You run the race, > take your chances, and complain about the outcome just like the rest > of us. > > In article <EkVna.128914$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > I have mixed feelings on this, but I lean toward agreeing. If for no
other > > reason than the hope of getting the stoopid random-damage thing out ofthe
Quoted text (10 lines)> > way. > > > > Larry > > > > "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > It would be great if we could turn the damage down to moderate or even > > off. > > > > > > I'd love to run just one RASCAR SS race where I don't get wrecked from

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