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http://www.computerandvideogames.com/reviews/reviews_story.php(que)id=89976 enjoy! ;-)

"Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... >http://www.computerandvideogames.com/reviews/reviews_story.php(que)id=89976 > > enjoy! ;-) > Poor fella will never know what hit him ;) I did laugh at this tho : - "True to form, the Americans use the word 'International' a lot in describing NASCAR, just as they use 'World Series' to describe baseball, but the sad truth is that nobody outside the US is interested in either." Ash http://www.siroccoracing.com

> I did laugh at this tho : - > > "True to form, the Americans use the word 'International' a lot in > describing NASCAR, just as they use 'World Series' to describe baseball,but > the sad truth is that nobody outside the US is interested in either." Hehehhe.. I must say it's true.. and the Brits do this as well.. as in "Snooker World Championship".. what? Who cares about snooker? ;-) Must be some english-speaking country habit.. :-D... I'm sure the aussie have their own "World Championship" for something obscure they only play.. ayaya stefano

Some people do care about snooker - not myself I hasten to add - but the difference here is that players from all over the world compete in the World Championship snooker qualifying rounds, but 'World Series Baseball' - I don't think so. Back to the original point - PC Zone has given ALL the Nascar series poor reviews over the years. they really miss the point badly, but they do in general with racing titles. For example, they always put GC's GP series ahead of any of the EA titles. Strange really, cos their reviews of other types of games have always been very reliable. Oh well.... Iain "Stefano Casillo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b8bnvs$fji$[email hidden]...

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> > I did laugh at this tho : - > > > > "True to form, the Americans use the word 'International' a lot in > > describing NASCAR, just as they use 'World Series' to describe baseball, > but > > the sad truth is that nobody outside the US is interested in either." > > Hehehhe.. I must say it's true.. and the Brits do this as well.. as in > "Snooker World Championship".. what? Who cares about snooker? ;-) > > Must be some english-speaking country habit.. :-D... I'm sure the aussie > have their own "World Championship" for something obscure they only play.. > > ayaya > > stefano > > >

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Steve Blankenship wrote: > http://www.computerandvideogames.com/reviews/reviews_story.php(que)id=89976 > > enjoy! ;-) > > I agree with the reviewers point about no gameplay changes and the damage modelling. For his opinion on graphics, I'm on the fence. He cannot deny that they look a helluva lot better than NR2002. Yet, in a way, they are still pretty bland....eye-candy and whatnot. However, I did notice that his in-game screenshots were from one of the chase views. That would be my first sign of something amiss. Not to mention how he starts out his second paragraph with "If driving round in circles wasn't boring enough,...". It's my opinion that the chap needs to spend more time with the title, then objectively base his reviews on the pros and cons of it. Most people would realize that Papy has created a niche market for the PC. Similar to the niche space simulation titles out there. What I mean is that not everyone is going to pick up a specific title and have a good time with it. Yet I believe the fair thing to do is for the reviewer to put down his/her bias while they're playing a game and focus on what works and what doesn't within that game, instead of thinking "I hate oval racing and this just sucks, therefore I'll give it a bad score". Objectivity and bias are two very different things. -Will

Iain Mackenzie wrote: > Some people do care about snooker - not myself I hasten to add - but the > difference here is that players from all over the world compete in the World > Championship snooker qualifying rounds, but 'World Series Baseball' - I > don't think so. The World Series is so called because the original series was sponsored by a newspaper called The World. :) Gerry

On Fri, 25 Apr 2003 18:06:30 +0100, "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Some people do care about snooker - not myself I hasten to add - but the >difference here is that players from all over the world compete in the World >Championship snooker qualifying rounds, but 'World Series Baseball' - I >don't think so. Uh. That's a bad example. Major League Baseball consists of the world's best players. True it only has teams in 2 countries but the athletes themselves are from North and South America, Europe, Asia, and Africa, and represent the best in the world at playing baseball. Professional baseball players in Cuba, Japan, etc come to the United States to play when they want to make real money and face real competition from the world's best players (just as Americans go to other countries when they aren't able to find a suitor in MLB). So in that regards, I don't think calling it a "World Series" is a misnomer - just that, rather than having international teams playing, the international teams are essentially farm clubs for non-American players who end up here. Jason

On Fri, 25 Apr 2003 12:39:40 -0500, William Bradshaw <[email hidden]> wrote: >I agree with the reviewers point about no gameplay changes and the >damage modelling. I'd like to see some replays of people (using realistic damage) driving backwards into a field of cars and being able to continue driving. It's obvious just reading that article that the guy played the game for half an hour, having already discarded it for being NASCAR oriented, and never bothered doing things like turning on realistic damage or disabling driving aids. I'd also like to know what system he's running it on if he's able to properly play the game with full details on, as he indicates in his review whilst bashing the graphics. Again, I'm skeptical. Jason

"Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... >http://www.computerandvideogames.com/reviews/reviews_story.php(que)id=89976 > > enjoy! ;-) > > Tool.

Gerry Aitken <[email hidden]> wrote here on 25 Apr 2003: > The World Series is so called because the original series was > sponsored by a newspaper called The World. :) I used to think that too, but in fact the World Series was around before the newspaper was in existence. It really does mean what it seems to. -- Above address *is* valid - but snip spamtrap to get me to *read*! Support the world's oldest motorsport venue! http://www.shelsley-walsh.co.uk/future.html

The reviewer is spot on..... It's ok as a sim, but not amazing - hence the score. "Kyle Roberts" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:CLfqa.28$[email hidden]... > > "Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > >http://www.computerandvideogames.com/reviews/reviews_story.php(que)id=89976

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"Richard" wrote... > The reviewer is spot on..... > > It's ok as a sim, but not amazing - hence the score. Interesting... why is the greatest example of its genre not amazing? To me, Medal of Honour: Allied Assault is just another stupidly difficult 3D shooter. I sort of lost the ability to complete these games after DOOM and, since this genre doesn't represent my main interest in gaming, I'm not likely to put in the time and practise required to really enjoy this game. All of which doesn't mean I try to force my ill-informed opinion of this title on other people. Jan. =---

On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 00:25:23 GMT, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote: >To me, Medal of Honour: Allied Assault is just another stupidly difficult 3D >shooter. I sort of lost the ability to complete these games after DOOM and, >since this genre doesn't represent my main interest in gaming, I'm not >likely to put in the time and practise required to really enjoy this game. >All of which doesn't mean I try to force my ill-informed opinion of this >title on other people. MOHAA is lame anway. I'm sick of first person shooters that don't at least make some attempt at realistic damage. Life bars were cool in 1994. Also, the sniper level is ridiculous. Load. Walk 2 steps. Shit, I'm dead. Reload. Walk 2 steps looking for where the shot is coming from. Reload. Take out sniper. Save. Repeat. MOHAA had about 3 hours of gameplay in it if you remove the sniper level. Jason

agreeeeeed. I love first person shooter games, I'm currently almost finished with Rainbow 6 Raven Shield. But man.. the MOHAA sniper board was TERRIBLE. My friend is totally against quicksaves, as they ruin realism and gameplay, and immersion, and I agree. and that sniper board was terrible. Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com "Jason Moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 00:25:23 GMT, "Jan Verschueren" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >To me, Medal of Honour: Allied Assault is just another stupidly difficult3D > >shooter. I sort of lost the ability to complete these games after DOOMand, > >since this genre doesn't represent my main interest in gaming, I'm not > >likely to put in the time and practise required to really enjoy thisgame.

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> >All of which doesn't mean I try to force my ill-informed opinion of this > >title on other people. > > MOHAA is lame anway. I'm sick of first person shooters that don't at > least make some attempt at realistic damage. Life bars were cool in > 1994. > > Also, the sniper level is ridiculous. Load. Walk 2 steps. Shit, I'm > dead. Reload. Walk 2 steps looking for where the shot is coming > from. Reload. Take out sniper. Save. Repeat. > > MOHAA had about 3 hours of gameplay in it if you remove the sniper > level. > > Jason

On Sat, 26 Apr 2003 00:18:03 -0400, "Mike Beauchamp \(Laptop\)" <[email hidden]> wrote: >agreeeeeed. I love first person shooter games, I'm currently almost finished >with Rainbow 6 Raven Shield. But man.. the MOHAA sniper board was TERRIBLE. >My friend is totally against quicksaves, as they ruin realism and gameplay, >and immersion, and I agree. and that sniper board was terrible. > Which is why on a patch they toned it down a tad. The main problem for me (apart from death alley) was that a 1g duron said FU on about half the levels. As for the Nascar reviewer I would like to know where the international part he was talking about was the N stands for NATIONAL. It was such a short review and the way it was written made me think he booted it up looked at it at in default then quit and wrote the review.

Richard wrote: > The reviewer is spot on..... > > It's ok as a sim, but not amazing - hence the score. > > That's a pretty bold statement, Richard. Care to share with us why you think that? -Will

Simple, if it was amazing, it would draw in people that were 'no tthat interested' "William Bradshaw" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Richard wrote: > > > The reviewer is spot on..... > > > > It's ok as a sim, but not amazing - hence the score. > > > > > > That's a pretty bold statement, Richard. Care to share with us why you > think that? > > -Will >

Richard wrote: > Simple, if it was amazing, it would draw in people that were 'no tthat > interested' > Alright, then. Why isn't NASCAR Racing 2003 Season 'amazing'? What is it lacking that keeps it from being 'amazing'? The three things I find 'amazing' about it is the new tire model, prettier graphics (including more eye candy, even though my system specs don't allow me to see them all) and sun glare. -Will

cos itt gets boring "William Bradshaw" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Richard wrote: > > > Simple, if it was amazing, it would draw in people that were 'no tthat > > interested' > > > > Alright, then. Why isn't NASCAR Racing 2003 Season 'amazing'? What is it > lacking that keeps it from being 'amazing'? > > The three things I find 'amazing' about it is the new tire model, > prettier graphics (including more eye candy, even though my system specs > don't allow me to see them all) and sun glare. > > -Will >

>"Richard" <[email hidden]> wrote > Simple, if it was amazing, it would draw in people that were 'no tthat > interested' Absolutely, completely, untrue. Do you think that the greatest RPG ever has drew in people that were 'no tthat interesed' ? Or the flight sim? Or the War sim? -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

"Richard" wrote... > Simple, if it was amazing, it would draw in people that > were 'not that interested' Hogwash... if one's not interested one's not interested, regardless of how "amazing" the game is. You're still back to personal like and dislike, which was the criticism leveled against the review. PC Zone prides itself on having people who are experts in their chosen fields reviewing the games. I haven't spotted any simracing tendencies in the current staff, though. Obviously, Phil drew the short straw and made a dogs ear of it. Jan. =---

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> Hogwash... if one's not interested one's not interested, regardless of how > "amazing" the game is. You're still back to personal like and dislike, which > was the criticism leveled against the review. > > PC Zone prides itself on having people who are experts in their chosen > fields reviewing the games. I haven't spotted any simracing tendencies in > the current staff, though. > > Obviously, Phil drew the short straw and made a dogs ear of it. > > Jan. > =---

Very well stated, Jan. I agree 110%. -Will

In article <3eaa784e$0$956$[email hidden]>, "Richard" <[email hidden]> writes: >Simple, if it was amazing, it would draw in people that were 'no tthat >interested' No it wouldn't. I hear people rave on this group about Colin McRae Rally, and Rally Championship(I think that's the one). I simply don't like rally games, so all the praise in the WORLD won't get me to spend money on one... Eldred -- Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank:-1.950 MonsterRank: +305.145 N2002 Rank:+17.59 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I think he wrote the review from the pictures on the box! Larry "Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... >http://www.computerandvideogames.com/reviews/reviews_story.php(que)id=89976 > > enjoy! ;-) > >