Fyi,
Just installed the new Cat 3.4 drivers for my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, pretty
good results so far.
3dMark 2003 went up by just over 300 points, and I gained about 10-15 fps in
N2003.
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Don Burnette
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ATI Catalyst 3.4 drivers and a failed install
Don Burnette reported frame-rate gains in NR2003 with the new Catalyst 3.4 drivers, while Gerry Aitken's system was left in 16-color VGA mode after mistakenly installing the XP driver on Windows 98. Posters suggested rollback procedures and recommended disk imaging tools, and some discussed earlier ATI problems on NR2003 road courses.
Automated summary.
Don Burnette wrote:
Don, I just tried to install them, but now my PC is stuck in 16 colour
640x480. Any attempt to roll back to an older driver fails, with the OS
insisting there is no ATI driver installed, and the ATI control panel
refusing to load.
I cannot begin to imagine what I did wrong. Any ideas? Stuck in this res
and colour I cannot even read a web page!
Oh well, seems like a job for format\c!
Glad to hear you had better luck.
Cheers
Gerry
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> Fyi, > > Just installed the new Cat 3.4 drivers for my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, pretty > good results so far. > 3dMark 2003 went up by just over 300 points, and I gained about 10-15 fps in > N2003. > > >In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...
One of the best pieces of software I ever purchased was Symantec
Ghost. Ghost your system drive before changing the drivers, and if
something goes wrong, restore from the ghost image and try again. :)
Of course, this is assuming that you've either partitioned your drive
or you have more than one physical hard drive in your system, which
makes the ghost/restore process much faster.
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> Don Burnette wrote: > > Fyi, > > > > Just installed the new Cat 3.4 drivers for my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, pretty > > good results so far. > > 3dMark 2003 went up by just over 300 points, and I gained about 10-15 fps in > > N2003. > > > > > > > > Don, I just tried to install them, but now my PC is stuck in 16 colour > 640x480. Any attempt to roll back to an older driver fails, with the OS > insisting there is no ATI driver installed, and the ATI control panel > refusing to load. > > I cannot begin to imagine what I did wrong. Any ideas? Stuck in this res > and colour I cannot even read a web page! > > Oh well, seems like a job for format\c! > > Glad to hear you had better luck. > > Cheers > > Gerry > >Gerry Aitken wrote:
Yikes..
What I did was , uninstalled Control Panel, uninstalled the 3.2 drivers,
rebooted machine. Installed new 3.2 drivers, rebooted, installed control
panel, rebooted.
Are you running XP? If so, can you do a restore back to the latest point
prior to installing the drivers?
If not, can you uninstall the drivers? Afterwards, do a search in the
regjstry for anything ati and remove. ( back up reg before doing so). Then
reboot and try reinstalling.
Also , after removing the 3.2 drivers, upon rebooting, XP recognized the new
hardware and wanted to install drivers for it, I cancelled out of this so it
only loaded a std vga driver, then installed the new drivers.
Hope this helps,
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Don Burnette
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> Don Burnette wrote: >> Fyi, >> >> Just installed the new Cat 3.4 drivers for my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, >> pretty good results so far. >> 3dMark 2003 went up by just over 300 points, and I gained about >> 10-15 fps in N2003. >> >> >> > > Don, I just tried to install them, but now my PC is stuck in 16 colour > 640x480. Any attempt to roll back to an older driver fails, with the > OS insisting there is no ATI driver installed, and the ATI control > panel refusing to load. > > I cannot begin to imagine what I did wrong. Any ideas? Stuck in this > res and colour I cannot even read a web page! > > Oh well, seems like a job for format\c! > > Glad to hear you had better luck. > > Cheers > > GerryJohn Simmons wrote:
I use Drive Image 2002 for the same purposes, works very well. I image at
least once and sometimes twice a month.
Hopefully he has XP and has a restore point he can go back to.
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Don Burnette
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> In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > says... >> Don Burnette wrote: >>> Fyi, >>> >>> Just installed the new Cat 3.4 drivers for my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, >>> pretty good results so far. >>> 3dMark 2003 went up by just over 300 points, and I gained about >>> 10-15 fps in N2003. >>> >>> >>> >> >> Don, I just tried to install them, but now my PC is stuck in 16 >> colour 640x480. Any attempt to roll back to an older driver fails, >> with the OS insisting there is no ATI driver installed, and the ATI >> control panel refusing to load. >> >> I cannot begin to imagine what I did wrong. Any ideas? Stuck in this >> res and colour I cannot even read a web page! >> >> Oh well, seems like a job for format\c! >> >> Glad to hear you had better luck. >> >> Cheers >> >> Gerry >> >> > > One of the best pieces of software I ever purchased was Symantec > Ghost. Ghost your system drive before changing the drivers, and if > something goes wrong, restore from the ghost image and try again. :) > > Of course, this is assuming that you've either partitioned your drive > or you have more than one physical hard drive in your system, which > makes the ghost/restore process much faster.Gerry -
If your using XP you might be able to try using hte rollback feature
for the video drivers. The procedure is:
Right click on My Computer, select properties
Click Hardware Tab
Click Device manager button
Click the + next to Display Adapters
Right click the adapter shown (is it the ATI card?)
Click the driver Tab
Choose rollback
If, as you say, it shows no drivers installed you can use System
Restore to bring your system back to a previous state, just what that
state is (and when) is dependant on how it was set up. This is
available in ME also as I remember.
Good luck!
Icer
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>On Sat, 17 May 2003 13:14:21 +0100, Gerry Aitken <[email hidden]> wrote: >Don Burnette wrote: >> Fyi, >> >> Just installed the new Cat 3.4 drivers for my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, pretty >> good results so far. >> 3dMark 2003 went up by just over 300 points, and I gained about 10-15 fps in >> N2003. >> >> >> > >Don, I just tried to install them, but now my PC is stuck in 16 colour >640x480. Any attempt to roll back to an older driver fails, with the OS >insisting there is no ATI driver installed, and the ATI control panel >refusing to load. > >I cannot begin to imagine what I did wrong. Any ideas? Stuck in this res > and colour I cannot even read a web page! > >Oh well, seems like a job for format\c! > >Glad to hear you had better luck. > >Cheers > >GerryWhy don't you just try uninstalling the drivers and trying again?
Either go to "add/remove programs" and get rid of all the ATI stuff. Or try
going to "Device Manager" and clicking on RADEON under video, and hit
uninstall. Reboot and you'll be in the standard VGA driver. So everything
will be nice and slow and in 640x480. Then run that .exe that you downloaded
already from the ATI site and let it do what it's supposed to do.
Did you do this the first time, or did you just install the drivers overtop
of your current ones? ATI drivers are finnicky when it comes to that stuff..
Mike
http://mikebeauchamp.com
"Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Don Burnette wrote:
> > Fyi,
> >
> > Just installed the new Cat 3.4 drivers for my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro,pretty
> > good results so far.
> > 3dMark 2003 went up by just over 300 points, and I gained about 10-15fps in
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> > N2003. > > > > > > > > Don, I just tried to install them, but now my PC is stuck in 16 colour > 640x480. Any attempt to roll back to an older driver fails, with the OS > insisting there is no ATI driver installed, and the ATI control panel > refusing to load. > > I cannot begin to imagine what I did wrong. Any ideas? Stuck in this res > and colour I cannot even read a web page! > > Oh well, seems like a job for format\c! > > Glad to hear you had better luck. > > Cheers > > Gerry >Gerry Aitken wrote:
Gerry,
Did you ever get this all sorted out?
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> Don Burnette wrote: >> Fyi, >> >> Just installed the new Cat 3.4 drivers for my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, >> pretty good results so far. >> 3dMark 2003 went up by just over 300 points, and I gained about >> 10-15 fps in N2003. >> >> >> > > Don, I just tried to install them, but now my PC is stuck in 16 colour > 640x480. Any attempt to roll back to an older driver fails, with the > OS insisting there is no ATI driver installed, and the ATI control > panel refusing to load. > > I cannot begin to imagine what I did wrong. Any ideas? Stuck in this > res and colour I cannot even read a web page! > > Oh well, seems like a job for format\c! > > Glad to hear you had better luck. > > Cheers > > GerryHow about NR2003 Road Courses? I believe they were a problem with previous
ATI drivers.
Larry
"Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Fyi,
>
> Just installed the new Cat 3.4 drivers for my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, pretty
> good results so far.
> 3dMark 2003 went up by just over 300 points, and I gained about 10-15 fpsin
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> N2003. > > > > -- > Don Burnette > > remove clothes when replying via email > >I agree, but I personally believe that PowerQuests DriveImage is a superior
solution.
The end-result is the same. Getting there is just a better ride with PQDI
:)
Larry
"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
> says...
> > Don Burnette wrote:
> > > Fyi,
> > >
> > > Just installed the new Cat 3.4 drivers for my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro,pretty
> > > good results so far.
> > > 3dMark 2003 went up by just over 300 points, and I gained about 10-15fps in
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> > > N2003. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don, I just tried to install them, but now my PC is stuck in 16 colour > > 640x480. Any attempt to roll back to an older driver fails, with the OS > > insisting there is no ATI driver installed, and the ATI control panel > > refusing to load. > > > > I cannot begin to imagine what I did wrong. Any ideas? Stuck in this res > > and colour I cannot even read a web page! > > > > Oh well, seems like a job for format\c! > > > > Glad to hear you had better luck. > > > > Cheers > > > > Gerry > > > > > > One of the best pieces of software I ever purchased was Symantec > Ghost. Ghost your system drive before changing the drivers, and if > something goes wrong, restore from the ghost image and try again. :) > > Of course, this is assuming that you've either partitioned your drive > or you have more than one physical hard drive in your system, which > makes the ghost/restore process much faster. >
Larry wrote:
>
> I agree, but I personally believe that PowerQuests DriveImage is a superior
> solution.
>
> The end-result is the same. Getting there is just a better ride with PQDI
> :)
Seagate "DiscWizard" :-)
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"
http://www.theuspits.com
"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--
6 for one, half a dozen for another..
"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
>
> Larry wrote:
> >
> > I agree, but I personally believe that PowerQuests DriveImage is asuperior
> > solution.
> >
> > The end-result is the same. Getting there is just a better ride withPQDI
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> > :) > > Seagate "DiscWizard" :-) > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--
Mitch_A wrote:
>
> 6 for one, half a dozen for another..
True, but my 6 is freeware :-)
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"
http://www.theuspits.com
"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--
Now that DOES make a difference for a cheap bastard like me Goy!
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> > > Mitch_A wrote: > > > > 6 for one, half a dozen for another.. > > True, but my 6 is freeware :-) > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> How about NR2003 Road Courses? I believe they were a problem withprevious
> ATI drivers.
Yes with 3.1, not with 3.2, not tried 3.4 yet.
Regards,
Mark Davison
V8 Thunder OVAL Deputy Admin
Car #69
http://www.v8thunder.com
Ive never had an issue with the 9700P on any track with any driver back to
2x. Why a few had issues Im not sure.
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> > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ZMPxa.30043$[email hidden]... > > How about NR2003 Road Courses? I believe they were a problem with > previous > > ATI drivers. > > Yes with 3.1, not with 3.2, not tried 3.4 yet. > > Regards, > > Mark Davison > V8 Thunder OVAL Deputy Admin > Car #69 > http://www.v8thunder.com > >In article <TLTxa.21061$[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...
I installed the Omega drivers today, and they're fine. Of course, I
don't have (and have never had) any problems with loading road
courses.
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> > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ZMPxa.30043$[email hidden]... > > How about NR2003 Road Courses? I believe they were a problem with > previous > > ATI drivers. > > Yes with 3.1, not with 3.2, not tried 3.4 yet. > > Regards, > > Mark Davison > V8 Thunder OVAL Deputy Admin > Car #69 > http://www.v8thunder.comQuoted text (20 lines)
>Don Burnette wrote: >> Fyi, >> >> Just installed the new Cat 3.4 drivers for my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, pretty >> good results so far. >> 3dMark 2003 went up by just over 300 points, and I gained about 10-15 fps in >> N2003. >> >> >> > >Don, I just tried to install them, but now my PC is stuck in 16 colour >640x480. Any attempt to roll back to an older driver fails, with the OS >insisting there is no ATI driver installed, and the ATI control panel >refusing to load. > >I cannot begin to imagine what I did wrong. Any ideas? Stuck in this res > and colour I cannot even read a web page! > >Oh well, seems like a job for format\c!Don Burnette wrote:
Hi Don
No, but I now know what I did wrong. I tried to install the XP version
by mistake (I needed win98 ver.) and instead of the installer checking
the os version and stopping the install, it just tried to install
anyway, screwing my system in the process. I take part of the blame, of
course, what with not having a backup and using the wrong version. But
you would think the installer would have known better than to install
into the wrong OS.
I still don't know whether to just reformat or not. I'm sure there's a
solution out there on the net, but s I cannot read web pages in the res,
I'm stuffed! I can't even changed to SVGA, the system just goes back to VGA.
Cheers
Gerry
PS, thanks for all the info on disk imaging, guys, I'll definitely be
making use of that in the future!
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> Gerry Aitken wrote: > >>Don Burnette wrote: >> >>>Fyi, >>> >>>Just installed the new Cat 3.4 drivers for my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, >>>pretty good results so far. >>>3dMark 2003 went up by just over 300 points, and I gained about >>>10-15 fps in N2003. >>> >>> >>> >> >>Don, I just tried to install them, but now my PC is stuck in 16 colour >>640x480. Any attempt to roll back to an older driver fails, with the >>OS insisting there is no ATI driver installed, and the ATI control >>panel refusing to load. >> >>I cannot begin to imagine what I did wrong. Any ideas? Stuck in this >> res and colour I cannot even read a web page! >> >>Oh well, seems like a job for format\c! >> >>Glad to hear you had better luck. >> >>Cheers >> >>Gerry > > > > Gerry, > > Did you ever get this all sorted out? >"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> How about NR2003 Road Courses? I believe they were a problem withprevious
> ATI drivers.
>
> Larry
>
Wow, I thought it was just me as I've never seen anything on this before.
I've been trying to run an accelerated season in NR2003 using the 4X wear
factor at a 25% length race. I'm just up to Sears Point and I can't get past
lap 12 to 14 without a solid lockup that requires hitting the reset button
on the tower... nothing else works. I've never had a problem at any other
track with my current hardware setup but since I've run into this snag I've
tried three different driver sets inclucing the latest set of Omega drivers
for my Radeon 9500NP (can't use the hacked drivers to unlock the extra
pipelines as I get major artifacts and I'm not oc'ing the graphics card
either... surprising for me). I'm positive it's just this track and possibly
Watkin's Glen (haven't run enough laps there yet back to back to notice the
same behaviour yet) as my hardware setup runs flawlessly at all the ovals...
I've even run some full length races without any trouble at all. Is there a
fix for this I'm unaware of?
Regards,
Robin


































