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New Cat 3.4 drivers for Radeon

20 posts by 11 people · 17 May 2003 04:26 UTC - 21 May 2003 15:27 UTC

ATI Catalyst 3.4 drivers and a failed install

Don Burnette reported frame-rate gains in NR2003 with the new Catalyst 3.4 drivers, while Gerry Aitken's system was left in 16-color VGA mode after mistakenly installing the XP driver on Windows 98. Posters suggested rollback procedures and recommended disk imaging tools, and some discussed earlier ATI problems on NR2003 road courses.

hardware: PC/graphicstech supportNASCAR Racing 2003 Season

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Don Burnette 17 May 2003 04:26 UTC#68237
Fyi, Just installed the new Cat 3.4 drivers for my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, pretty good results so far. 3dMark 2003 went up by just over 300 points, and I gained about 10-15 fps in N2003. -- Don Burnette remove clothes when replying via email
Don Burnette wrote:
Quoted text (9 lines)> Fyi, > > Just installed the new Cat 3.4 drivers for my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, pretty > good results so far. > 3dMark 2003 went up by just over 300 points, and I gained about 10-15 fps in > N2003. > > >
Don, I just tried to install them, but now my PC is stuck in 16 colour 640x480. Any attempt to roll back to an older driver fails, with the OS insisting there is no ATI driver installed, and the ATI control panel refusing to load. I cannot begin to imagine what I did wrong. Any ideas? Stuck in this res and colour I cannot even read a web page! Oh well, seems like a job for format\c! Glad to hear you had better luck. Cheers Gerry
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
Quoted text (28 lines)> Don Burnette wrote: > > Fyi, > > > > Just installed the new Cat 3.4 drivers for my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, pretty > > good results so far. > > 3dMark 2003 went up by just over 300 points, and I gained about 10-15 fps in > > N2003. > > > > > > > > Don, I just tried to install them, but now my PC is stuck in 16 colour > 640x480. Any attempt to roll back to an older driver fails, with the OS > insisting there is no ATI driver installed, and the ATI control panel > refusing to load. > > I cannot begin to imagine what I did wrong. Any ideas? Stuck in this res > and colour I cannot even read a web page! > > Oh well, seems like a job for format\c! > > Glad to hear you had better luck. > > Cheers > > Gerry > >
One of the best pieces of software I ever purchased was Symantec Ghost. Ghost your system drive before changing the drivers, and if something goes wrong, restore from the ghost image and try again. :) Of course, this is assuming that you've either partitioned your drive or you have more than one physical hard drive in your system, which makes the ghost/restore process much faster.
Gerry Aitken wrote:
Quoted text (26 lines)> Don Burnette wrote: >> Fyi, >> >> Just installed the new Cat 3.4 drivers for my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, >> pretty good results so far. >> 3dMark 2003 went up by just over 300 points, and I gained about >> 10-15 fps in N2003. >> >> >> > > Don, I just tried to install them, but now my PC is stuck in 16 colour > 640x480. Any attempt to roll back to an older driver fails, with the > OS insisting there is no ATI driver installed, and the ATI control > panel refusing to load. > > I cannot begin to imagine what I did wrong. Any ideas? Stuck in this > res and colour I cannot even read a web page! > > Oh well, seems like a job for format\c! > > Glad to hear you had better luck. > > Cheers > > Gerry
Yikes.. What I did was , uninstalled Control Panel, uninstalled the 3.2 drivers, rebooted machine. Installed new 3.2 drivers, rebooted, installed control panel, rebooted. Are you running XP? If so, can you do a restore back to the latest point prior to installing the drivers? If not, can you uninstall the drivers? Afterwards, do a search in the regjstry for anything ati and remove. ( back up reg before doing so). Then reboot and try reinstalling. Also , after removing the 3.2 drivers, upon rebooting, XP recognized the new hardware and wanted to install drivers for it, I cancelled out of this so it only loaded a std vga driver, then installed the new drivers. Hope this helps, -- Don Burnette remove clothes when replying via email
John Simmons wrote:
Quoted text (38 lines)> In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > says... >> Don Burnette wrote: >>> Fyi, >>> >>> Just installed the new Cat 3.4 drivers for my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, >>> pretty good results so far. >>> 3dMark 2003 went up by just over 300 points, and I gained about >>> 10-15 fps in N2003. >>> >>> >>> >> >> Don, I just tried to install them, but now my PC is stuck in 16 >> colour 640x480. Any attempt to roll back to an older driver fails, >> with the OS insisting there is no ATI driver installed, and the ATI >> control panel refusing to load. >> >> I cannot begin to imagine what I did wrong. Any ideas? Stuck in this >> res and colour I cannot even read a web page! >> >> Oh well, seems like a job for format\c! >> >> Glad to hear you had better luck. >> >> Cheers >> >> Gerry >> >> > > One of the best pieces of software I ever purchased was Symantec > Ghost. Ghost your system drive before changing the drivers, and if > something goes wrong, restore from the ghost image and try again. :) > > Of course, this is assuming that you've either partitioned your drive > or you have more than one physical hard drive in your system, which > makes the ghost/restore process much faster.
I use Drive Image 2002 for the same purposes, works very well. I image at least once and sometimes twice a month. Hopefully he has XP and has a restore point he can go back to. -- Don Burnette remove clothes when replying via email
Gerry - If your using XP you might be able to try using hte rollback feature for the video drivers. The procedure is: Right click on My Computer, select properties Click Hardware Tab Click Device manager button Click the + next to Display Adapters Right click the adapter shown (is it the ATI card?) Click the driver Tab Choose rollback If, as you say, it shows no drivers installed you can use System Restore to bring your system back to a previous state, just what that state is (and when) is dependant on how it was set up. This is available in ME also as I remember. Good luck! Icer
Quoted text (27 lines)>On Sat, 17 May 2003 13:14:21 +0100, Gerry Aitken <[email hidden]> wrote: >Don Burnette wrote: >> Fyi, >> >> Just installed the new Cat 3.4 drivers for my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, pretty >> good results so far. >> 3dMark 2003 went up by just over 300 points, and I gained about 10-15 fps in >> N2003. >> >> >> > >Don, I just tried to install them, but now my PC is stuck in 16 colour >640x480. Any attempt to roll back to an older driver fails, with the OS >insisting there is no ATI driver installed, and the ATI control panel >refusing to load. > >I cannot begin to imagine what I did wrong. Any ideas? Stuck in this res > and colour I cannot even read a web page! > >Oh well, seems like a job for format\c! > >Glad to hear you had better luck. > >Cheers > >Gerry
Why don't you just try uninstalling the drivers and trying again? Either go to "add/remove programs" and get rid of all the ATI stuff. Or try going to "Device Manager" and clicking on RADEON under video, and hit uninstall. Reboot and you'll be in the standard VGA driver. So everything will be nice and slow and in 640x480. Then run that .exe that you downloaded already from the ATI site and let it do what it's supposed to do. Did you do this the first time, or did you just install the drivers overtop of your current ones? ATI drivers are finnicky when it comes to that stuff.. Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Don Burnette wrote: > > Fyi, > > > > Just installed the new Cat 3.4 drivers for my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro,pretty > > good results so far. > > 3dMark 2003 went up by just over 300 points, and I gained about 10-15fps in
Quoted text (21 lines)> > N2003. > > > > > > > > Don, I just tried to install them, but now my PC is stuck in 16 colour > 640x480. Any attempt to roll back to an older driver fails, with the OS > insisting there is no ATI driver installed, and the ATI control panel > refusing to load. > > I cannot begin to imagine what I did wrong. Any ideas? Stuck in this res > and colour I cannot even read a web page! > > Oh well, seems like a job for format\c! > > Glad to hear you had better luck. > > Cheers > > Gerry >
Gerry Aitken wrote:
Quoted text (26 lines)> Don Burnette wrote: >> Fyi, >> >> Just installed the new Cat 3.4 drivers for my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, >> pretty good results so far. >> 3dMark 2003 went up by just over 300 points, and I gained about >> 10-15 fps in N2003. >> >> >> > > Don, I just tried to install them, but now my PC is stuck in 16 colour > 640x480. Any attempt to roll back to an older driver fails, with the > OS insisting there is no ATI driver installed, and the ATI control > panel refusing to load. > > I cannot begin to imagine what I did wrong. Any ideas? Stuck in this > res and colour I cannot even read a web page! > > Oh well, seems like a job for format\c! > > Glad to hear you had better luck. > > Cheers > > Gerry
Gerry, Did you ever get this all sorted out? -- Don Burnette remove clothes when replying via email
How about NR2003 Road Courses? I believe they were a problem with previous ATI drivers. Larry "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Fyi, > > Just installed the new Cat 3.4 drivers for my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, pretty > good results so far. > 3dMark 2003 went up by just over 300 points, and I gained about 10-15 fpsin
Quoted text (10 lines)> N2003. > > > > -- > Don Burnette > > remove clothes when replying via email > >
I agree, but I personally believe that PowerQuests DriveImage is a superior solution. The end-result is the same. Getting there is just a better ride with PQDI :) Larry "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > says... > > Don Burnette wrote: > > > Fyi, > > > > > > Just installed the new Cat 3.4 drivers for my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro,pretty > > > good results so far. > > > 3dMark 2003 went up by just over 300 points, and I gained about 10-15fps in
Quoted text (31 lines)> > > N2003. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don, I just tried to install them, but now my PC is stuck in 16 colour > > 640x480. Any attempt to roll back to an older driver fails, with the OS > > insisting there is no ATI driver installed, and the ATI control panel > > refusing to load. > > > > I cannot begin to imagine what I did wrong. Any ideas? Stuck in this res > > and colour I cannot even read a web page! > > > > Oh well, seems like a job for format\c! > > > > Glad to hear you had better luck. > > > > Cheers > > > > Gerry > > > > > > One of the best pieces of software I ever purchased was Symantec > Ghost. Ghost your system drive before changing the drivers, and if > something goes wrong, restore from the ghost image and try again. :) > > Of course, this is assuming that you've either partitioned your drive > or you have more than one physical hard drive in your system, which > makes the ghost/restore process much faster. >
Larry wrote: > > I agree, but I personally believe that PowerQuests DriveImage is a superior > solution. > > The end-result is the same. Getting there is just a better ride with PQDI > :) Seagate "DiscWizard" :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
6 for one, half a dozen for another.. "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > Larry wrote: > > > > I agree, but I personally believe that PowerQuests DriveImage is asuperior > > solution. > > > > The end-result is the same. Getting there is just a better ride withPQDI
Quoted text (13 lines)> > :) > > Seagate "DiscWizard" :-) > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--
Now that DOES make a difference for a cheap bastard like me Goy! "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (17 lines)> > > Mitch_A wrote: > > > > 6 for one, half a dozen for another.. > > True, but my 6 is freeware :-) > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZMPxa.30043$[email hidden]... > How about NR2003 Road Courses? I believe they were a problem withprevious > ATI drivers. Yes with 3.1, not with 3.2, not tried 3.4 yet. Regards, Mark Davison V8 Thunder OVAL Deputy Admin Car #69 http://www.v8thunder.com
Ive never had an issue with the 9700P on any track with any driver back to 2x. Why a few had issues Im not sure. "Mark Davison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:TLTxa.21061$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (17 lines)> > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ZMPxa.30043$[email hidden]... > > How about NR2003 Road Courses? I believe they were a problem with > previous > > ATI drivers. > > Yes with 3.1, not with 3.2, not tried 3.4 yet. > > Regards, > > Mark Davison > V8 Thunder OVAL Deputy Admin > Car #69 > http://www.v8thunder.com > >
In article <TLTxa.21061$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
Quoted text (15 lines)> > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ZMPxa.30043$[email hidden]... > > How about NR2003 Road Courses? I believe they were a problem with > previous > > ATI drivers. > > Yes with 3.1, not with 3.2, not tried 3.4 yet. > > Regards, > > Mark Davison > V8 Thunder OVAL Deputy Admin > Car #69 > http://www.v8thunder.com
I installed the Omega drivers today, and they're fine. Of course, I don't have (and have never had) any problems with loading road courses.
pw 19 May 2003 03:30 UTC↳ reply to Gerry Aitken#67999
Quoted text (20 lines)>Don Burnette wrote: >> Fyi, >> >> Just installed the new Cat 3.4 drivers for my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, pretty >> good results so far. >> 3dMark 2003 went up by just over 300 points, and I gained about 10-15 fps in >> N2003. >> >> >> > >Don, I just tried to install them, but now my PC is stuck in 16 colour >640x480. Any attempt to roll back to an older driver fails, with the OS >insisting there is no ATI driver installed, and the ATI control panel >refusing to load. > >I cannot begin to imagine what I did wrong. Any ideas? Stuck in this res > and colour I cannot even read a web page! > >Oh well, seems like a job for format\c!
No way! I have never had to do something that drastic! Any way, I followed the instructions in the readme (uninstalled the 3.2 drivers and the control panel then reinstalled both - 3.4 drivers 1st) and so far no problems at all. -pw > >Glad to hear you had better luck. > >Cheers > >Gerry pw livingston,montana please use "pw at williamsonenterprises dot com" for e-mail thanks ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =---
Don Burnette wrote:
Quoted text (36 lines)> Gerry Aitken wrote: > >>Don Burnette wrote: >> >>>Fyi, >>> >>>Just installed the new Cat 3.4 drivers for my ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, >>>pretty good results so far. >>>3dMark 2003 went up by just over 300 points, and I gained about >>>10-15 fps in N2003. >>> >>> >>> >> >>Don, I just tried to install them, but now my PC is stuck in 16 colour >>640x480. Any attempt to roll back to an older driver fails, with the >>OS insisting there is no ATI driver installed, and the ATI control >>panel refusing to load. >> >>I cannot begin to imagine what I did wrong. Any ideas? Stuck in this >> res and colour I cannot even read a web page! >> >>Oh well, seems like a job for format\c! >> >>Glad to hear you had better luck. >> >>Cheers >> >>Gerry > > > > Gerry, > > Did you ever get this all sorted out? >
Hi Don No, but I now know what I did wrong. I tried to install the XP version by mistake (I needed win98 ver.) and instead of the installer checking the os version and stopping the install, it just tried to install anyway, screwing my system in the process. I take part of the blame, of course, what with not having a backup and using the wrong version. But you would think the installer would have known better than to install into the wrong OS. I still don't know whether to just reformat or not. I'm sure there's a solution out there on the net, but s I cannot read web pages in the res, I'm stuffed! I can't even changed to SVGA, the system just goes back to VGA. Cheers Gerry PS, thanks for all the info on disk imaging, guys, I'll definitely be making use of that in the future!
Robin 21 May 2003 15:27 UTC↳ reply to Larry#67851
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZMPxa.30043$[email hidden]... > How about NR2003 Road Courses? I believe they were a problem withprevious > ATI drivers. > > Larry > Wow, I thought it was just me as I've never seen anything on this before. I've been trying to run an accelerated season in NR2003 using the 4X wear factor at a 25% length race. I'm just up to Sears Point and I can't get past lap 12 to 14 without a solid lockup that requires hitting the reset button on the tower... nothing else works. I've never had a problem at any other track with my current hardware setup but since I've run into this snag I've tried three different driver sets inclucing the latest set of Omega drivers for my Radeon 9500NP (can't use the hacked drivers to unlock the extra pipelines as I get major artifacts and I'm not oc'ing the graphics card either... surprising for me). I'm positive it's just this track and possibly Watkin's Glen (haven't run enough laps there yet back to back to notice the same behaviour yet) as my hardware setup runs flawlessly at all the ovals... I've even run some full length races without any trouble at all. Is there a fix for this I'm unaware of? Regards, Robin

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