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What's the best sim?

24 posts by 14 people · 22 Jun 2003 00:29 UTC - 03 Jul 2003 20:09 UTC

Best sim for stock cars, rally and open-wheel

A poster asked for the best simulation in stock car, rally and formula categories. NASCAR Racing 2003 Season and Rally Trophy were near-unanimous picks, while answers for formula cars varied between Grand Prix Legends, F1 2002, F1 Challenge 99-02, Grand Prix 4 and netKar. A side argument considered whether 'best' means most realistic or most enjoyable, with Colin McRae Rally dismissed as arcade.

game comparisonNASCAR Racing 2003 SeasonRally TrophyGrand Prix Legends

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someone 22 Jun 2003 00:29 UTC#65106
(duck) Okay okay I'm sure this question has been asked a lot. But what is the best sim right now in the following categories (on any platform). I highlight the word SIM. Stock car Rally Formula Racing (f1, cart, etc) Thanks
"someone" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > (duck) Okay okay I'm sure this question has been asked a lot. But > what is the best sim right now in the following categories (on any > platform). I highlight the word SIM. > > Stock carNascar 2003 > RallyRally Trophy > Formula Racing (f1, cart, etc)Not touching that one. > Thanks
That's like asking a thousand people to name the best book or best movie or best music or best washing machine or best car or best........... Anyway, in answer to your question:- NASCAR 2003 Colin McRae version whatever is the latest. Grand Prix Legends. Bruce.
yea i agree here for the rally part...i have colin mcrae rally 3 and it is just so nice, graphics, gameplay, and sim aspect with allowing different tires, chassis, brakes,etc etc "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3ef502ae$[email hidden]... > That's like asking a thousand people to name the best book or best movieor
Quoted text (11 lines)> best music or best washing machine or best car or best........... > > Anyway, in answer to your question:- > > NASCAR 2003 > Colin McRae version whatever is the latest. > Grand Prix Legends. > > Bruce. > >
>"warlord716 yahoo.com>" <warlord716@<NOSPAM> wrote > yea i agree here for the rally part...i have colin mcrae rally 3 and it is > just so nice, graphics, gameplay, and sim aspect with allowing different > tires, chassis, brakes,etc etc CMR3 is not a realistic rally sim. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...
Redmist 22 Jun 2003 03:47 UTC↳ reply to someone#65124
> Stock car NASCAR 2003 or GTR 2002 (mod for F1 2002) > Rally Rally Trophy > Formula Racing (f1, cart, etc) F1 Challenge 99-02
Redmist 22 Jun 2003 03:47 UTC#530903
NASCAR 2003 or GTR 2002 (mod for F1 2002) Rally Trophy F1 Challenge 99-02
He asked what was the best, not was the most realistic. Big difference when it comes to entertainment. Bruce. "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Xj9Ja.10693$[email hidden]... > > > CMR3 is not a realistic rally sim. >
But isn't asking what the best "Simulation" the exact same as asking what is the most realistic? If we are going by eye-candy, then I'd get GPL out of there.. it looks a little dated by now. Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3ef54341$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (13 lines)> He asked what was the best, not was the most realistic. > Big difference when it comes to entertainment. > > Bruce. > "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Xj9Ja.10693$[email hidden]... > > > > > > CMR3 is not a realistic rally sim. > > > > >
He did say "sim" though Bruce, not game. To me and I think many others, that automatically implies realism as well. CMR is really arcadey, so it gets almost no points on realism. -- Biz "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and the....." - Ash "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3ef54341$[email hidden]... > He asked what was the best, not was the most realistic. > Big difference when it comes to entertainment. > > Bruce. > "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Xj9Ja.10693$[email hidden]... > > > > > > CMR3 is not a realistic rally sim. > > > > >
Well - the term "best" is subjective. In other words, it is defined by opinions and, as we are well aware, everyone has differing opinions. Therefore, in my opinion, "best" in this context relates to overall enjoyment and the "eye-candy" (as you refer to it) is only part of the recipe. I just happen to like the three games I mentioned..........i.e., it's my subjective opinion. Bruce. "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2CbJa.35997$[email hidden]... > But isn't asking what the best "Simulation" the exact same as asking whatis > the most realistic? If we are going by eye-candy, then I'd get GPL out of > there.. it looks a little dated by now.
A rose by any other name........... They're ALL games. :) Bruce. "Biz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3zcJa.16315$[email hidden]... > He did say "sim" though Bruce, not game.
"someone" wrote... > (duck) Okay okay I'm sure this question has been > asked a lot. But what is the best sim right now > in the following categories (on any platform). > I highlight the word SIM. > > Stock car Nascar Racing 2003 Season - Papyrus/Sierra (PC) > Rally Rally Trophy - BugBear/JoWood (PC) > Formula Racing (f1, cart, etc) For online multiplayer capability one would still have to give it to: Grand Prix Legends - Papyrus/Sierra (PC) But if that's not really important to you: F1 2002 - ISI/EA Sports (PC) is the better game (though the GTR2002 mod showcases it's physics better), but I'd wait for the upcoming F1 Challenge 99-02 (+mods) in that case (possibly better multiplayer). Dark Horse: Netkar - Stefano Casillo (PC) http://forum.racesimcentral.com/t.php?s=&threadid=81886 (can't find official site??) Also worth sampling is: Live for Speed - Scawen Roberts/Eric Bailey/Victor van Vlaardingen (PC) http://www.liveforspeed.net Jan. =--- PS.: there's a slight pattern with regard to platform in this reply... <vbg>
"Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:3ef57840$[email hidden]: > A rose by any other name........... > They're ALL games. :) > > Bruce. ssshhhh...lower your voice Bruce, GPL might hear you... dh
>"Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote > He asked what was the best, not was the most realistic. > Big difference when it comes to entertainment. The original person said "I highlight the word SIM". That excludes such arcade games like CMR3, whatever fun they may be. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://ymenard.cjb.net/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...
Yup.. that's cool... Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3ef577f7$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (13 lines)> Well - the term "best" is subjective. In other words, it is defined by > opinions and, as we are well aware, everyone has differing opinions. > Therefore, in my opinion, "best" in this context relates to overall > enjoyment and the "eye-candy" (as you refer to it) is only part of the > recipe. > I just happen to like the three games I mentioned..........i.e., it's my > subjective opinion. > > Bruce. > > "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:2CbJa.35997$[email hidden]... > > But isn't asking what the best "Simulation" the exact same as asking
what > is > > the most realistic? If we are going by eye-candy, then I'd get GPL outof > > there.. it looks a little dated by now. > >
"someone" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > (duck) Okay okay I'm sure this question has been asked a lot. But > what is the best sim right now in the following categories (on any > platform). I highlight the word SIM. > > Stock carNascar 2003 (Papy) > RallyRally Trophy > Formula Racing (f1, cart, etc)netKar > ThanksWelcome :)
"Redmist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bd38tb$nqn68$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> > Stock car > > NASCAR 2003 or GTR 2002 (mod for F1 2002) > > > Rally > > Rally Trophy > > > Formula Racing (f1, cart, etc) > > F1 Challenge 99-02
A little premature? It's not actually out. I believe it's released today. Dou
> A little premature? It's not actually out. I believe it's released today. Well, kind of... It was on the shelves on June 19 in New Zealand. I've got it in my hot little hands now....first impressions are very positive.
"Redmist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bd5hqu$ocju2$[email hidden]... > > A little premature? It's not actually out. I believe it's releasedtoday. > > Well, kind of... > > It was on the shelves on June 19 in New Zealand. I've got it in my hot > little hands now....first impressions are very positive. But you liked F12002 anyway Doug
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 20:29:17 -0400, someone <[email hidden]> wrote: >Stock car Nascar Racing 2003 Season >Rally Rally Trophy >Formula Racing (f1, cart, etc) Grand Prix Legends F1 1995 Mod for F1 2002 Grand Prix 4 Jason
"mark.seery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:be1vlh$m7k$[email hidden]... > simulators > >Not a bad choice, though it has its problems. Alanb

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