RASCAR: General Race Stuff

1) DO NOT JUMP THE START. When the green flag drops, you should be going no faster than the pace speed. This happened a couple of times today. 2) Bruce and Guido appear to be using the WRONG car file. I saw generic paint schemes for both cars today. 3) PATIENCE. 4) There was ENTIRELY too much idle chatting going on. That shit's gonna stop right now.

Good morning, John. Feeling a bit liverish, are we? :) 2) On the paint scheme; tell me which one you are using....the Gordon DuPont or the one I posted (Raider's scheme, same name as previous) on the RASCAR forum last week? 4) What's the problem with chat when under yellow?? Doesn't seem to cause a problem for anyone. Bruce.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Good morning, John. > Feeling a bit liverish, are we? :) > > 2) On the paint scheme; tell me which one you are using....the Gordon DuPont > or the one I posted (Raider's scheme, same name as previous) on the RASCAR > forum last week? Well, you *uploaded* this one: ras55_bkenewell.cup.car but in today's race, you used this one: 55_b_kenewell.cup.car Nobody has that car file but you, therefore, we can't see your paint job. Please rename the file you're using to the "ras..." version (and don't forget to re-select the correct file before joining the next race). > 4) What's the problem with chat when under yellow?? Doesn't seem to cause a > problem for anyone. > It's one of the very few actual rules we have Bruce. If you're chatting, you're not driving and you're a hazard on the track. Keeping the chat to a minimum is simply a good idea. What does "liverish" mean? :)

I sure hope you arent implying I jumped JS? If so show me when and don't base it on Kyles constant crying during the race. When the flag falls I step on it, not before and in as little time after it falls as humanly possible ;). If you DONT KNOW WHICH GEAR TO START IN or DONT STOP FOR FRESH TIRES then it's your FN problem that you can't get out of the box, not mine (Kyle86). I was never going much (1-3MPH) over pace speed at any start except the first where whoever was leading took off way before the green flag flew and we all tried to keep up. Jumping the start of a race (or subsequent yellow) is to purposfully slow as you approach the green flag (which I never did) then accelerate prior to the flag being dropped thus carrying a good deal more momentum/speed just as you pass the flag stand. Which I sure as hell didnt do either. If I got a better start it was cause I got a better start, nothing more nothing less. Why all the FN crying about nothing. Mitch "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message ... > 1) DO NOT JUMP THE START. When the green flag drops, you should be > going no faster than the pace speed. This happened a couple of times > today.

That's odd! (The car file). Okay, I'm now looking at the .../series/cup/cars folder and see BOTH those files in there. I'll delete the incorrect livery one and rename the other as needed then hope that works! Okay on the chat....I'm not objecting to it, just curious about the rule applying during yellows was all. "Liverish"? It means feeling a bit out of sorts, a bit grumpy, disagreeable. :) Cheers mate! Bruce. "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > What does "liverish" mean? :) > >

Hmmmm....the RaceSimCentral forums (fora) are down at the moment, John, so I can't upload that correct car file yet. Will do so as soon as I discover the RASCAR forum is accessible again. Bruce.

Not at all. I was implying that some folks who were leading the race on the restart were n0t maintaining pace speed until the green flag came out, and that others behind me were accelerating at the restarts before the green flag came out. In article <blqLa.305$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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> I sure hope you arent implying I jumped JS? > > Mitch > > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message ... > > 1) DO NOT JUMP THE START. When the green flag drops, you should be > > going no faster than the pace speed. This happened a couple of times > > today. > > >

Oh, welll, you'll get used to that soon enough. :) In article <3efe3ca7$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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> > "Liverish"? > It means feeling a bit out of sorts, a bit grumpy, disagreeable. :) > > Cheers mate! > Bruce. > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > What does "liverish" mean? :) > > > > > > >

Oh, welll, you'll get used to that soon enough. :) says...

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> "Liverish"? > It means feeling a bit out of sorts, a bit grumpy, disagreeable. :) > Cheers mate! > Bruce. > > What does "liverish" mean? :)

For me, excessive chatting during cautions is worse than seeing it under green. In a league with varied skills, even keeping pace under caution is hard enough without having to type at the same time. That's the time I work hardest mentally, trying to stay focused. If everything is cool with everyone else, and all is fine in the world, an occasional slapstick or apology is good for the group. But more likely, if an admin has anything to say while he's racing, he may usually wait to say it under yellow. Remember he's racing too. A mis-timed unneccessary chat will cause his to blink right by, afterwhich everyone is then chattting 'huh? what? who me?' It's asking alot to ask an admin to clear a BF, ask another driver to check your front/rear damage, watch for eoll msgs, etc. AND sift thru all the other stuff. chat kills :) -- Tim White www.intracmotorsports.com

Wrong carfile? I used the one i uploaded, or so i think. ras_64_g_mielekamp[1].cup.car (only the 1 bothers me a bit) "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht news:3efe5dba$[email hidden]... > Hmmmm....the RaceSimCentral forums (fora) are down at the moment, John, soI > can't upload that correct car file yet. > Will do so as soon as I discover the RASCAR forum is accessible again. > > Bruce. > >

Take the "[1]" out of the name and it should clear up. In article <tOuLa.461676$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Wrong carfile? I used the one i uploaded, or so i think. > ras_64_g_mielekamp[1].cup.car (only the 1 bothers me a bit) >

Tim, the problem was the track we were on. Each yellow lap took THREE MINUTES and there were 4 laps each time, so it was kinda tough to sit there silent at 70 mph for 12 minutes at a time, not to mention we never got more than 2 green laps in a row.

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> Tim, the problem was the track we were on. Each yellow lap took THREE > MINUTES and there were 4 laps each time, so it was kinda tough to sit there > silent at 70 mph for 12 minutes at a time, not to mention we never got more > than 2 green laps in a row. > > >

I think we got three green laps in a row one time. It doesn't mattter how hard it is to not say something (even just to pass the time), idle chatter is not desireable at all. Don't do it (only acceptable exception is if you're on pit road, and even then, you shouldn't abuse it.

I think today's idle chit-chat was simply due to the massive doses of bordom that were setting in. Just about everyone was participating today. I dont' think Cow-bearing is necessary. It'll settle down next week :) Larry "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> 1) DO NOT JUMP THE START. When the green flag drops, you should be > going no faster than the pace speed. This happened a couple of times > today. > > 2) Bruce and Guido appear to be using the WRONG car file. I saw > generic paint schemes for both cars today. > > 3) PATIENCE. > > 4) There was ENTIRELY too much idle chatting going on. That shit's > gonna stop right now. >

In article <[email hidden]>, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> writes: >4) What's the problem with chat when under yellow?? Doesn't seem to cause a >problem for anyone. It's distracting, people are too busy typing to keep control of their car. It has caused incidents in the past when someone suddenly slowed down or swerved while typing some witty retort. I agree with John on this one. Eldred -- Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info on my homepage) Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:blqLa.305$[email hidden]... > I sure hope you arent implying I jumped JS? Mitch, you are a fast and fair racer so no hard feelings. If your initial reply had not been an FU it would have ended there. I admittedly shouldn't have said anything since that never solves anything and just ends up in what happened. Going back and forth at each other. You didn't jump it, but you sure did anticipate it. You had dropped off my tail, but after seeing the replay it was due to the front runners not maintaining the pace speed after the pace car dropped off the track which seems to happen a lot. I think everyone, myself included, can do a better job keeping the pack together during cautions. This is especially true at the shorter tracks where you can lose laps if you need repairs and the field is strung out on the caution. I was irritated because after you passed me just past the flag stand and passed second place going into one, he slowed to give you room and I slowed for him which gave the guy behind me the IMO not so good idea to dive under me going into the sharp right hander which ended badly for me. Most of our cautions were caused by people trying to pass to soon and in the wrong places. Sorry again to anyone that got caught in my warp/freeze with about 8 laps to go. I was running fourth coming T3 and the screen just froze. I then screen refreshed and I was inside Larry's car back in 16th or so. That is the second time in two weeks that this has happened. I will have to investigate it before I run Rascar again. Dave must have given it to me. Have fun at Daytona next week. I'll be there watching the real deal instead. Kyle

I noticed that too. It seemed like someone up front was brake-checking just before the start. But I was SO far back I couldn't really see what was going on :) -Larry "Kyle Roberts" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:C0JLa.16214$[email hidden]...

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> > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:blqLa.305$[email hidden]... > > I sure hope you arent implying I jumped JS? > > Mitch, you are a fast and fair racer so no hard feelings. If your initial > reply had not been an FU it would have ended there. I admittedly shouldn't > have said anything since that never solves anything and just ends up in

what > happened. Going back and forth at each other. You didn't jump it, but you > sure did anticipate it. You had dropped off my tail, but after seeing the > replay it was due to the front runners not maintaining the pace speedafter > the pace car dropped off the track which seems to happen a lot. I think > everyone, myself included, can do a better job keeping the pack together > during cautions. This is especially true at the shorter tracks where youcan > lose laps if you need repairs and the field is strung out on the caution.I > was irritated because after you passed me just past the flag stand and > passed second place going into one, he slowed to give you room and Islowed > for him which gave the guy behind me the IMO not so good idea to diveunder > me going into the sharp right hander which ended badly for me. Most of our > cautions were caused by people trying to pass to soon and in the wrong > places. > > Sorry again to anyone that got caught in my warp/freeze with about 8 lapsto > go. I was running fourth coming T3 and the screen just froze. I thenscreen > refreshed and I was inside Larry's car back in 16th or so. That is the > second time in two weeks that this has happened. I will have toinvestigate > it before I run Rascar again. Dave must have given it to me. Have fun at > Daytona next week. I'll be there watching the real deal instead. > > Kyle > >

Aaah....was that for Guido, John? :) I don't have a [1] in my car-file name. Bruce. "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Take the "[1]" out of the name and it should clear up. > > In article <tOuLa.461676$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > Wrong carfile? I used the one i uploaded, or so i think. > > ras_64_g_mielekamp[1].cup.car (only the 1 bothers me a bit) > >

If I made that accusation during a race I would almost expect that kind of response ;). Ive been jumped before and that sure wasnt. It was already a miserable race but that really set me off. I cant quite reach/see my kb while racing and was going to question your reasoning in a more sane manner but by the time I reached the kb my patience had worn through. Sorry for that response regardless the situation. I did pass a few guys during the many restarts but I figured it was due to them either starting in 2nd gear or my fresher tires. Either way it was just hard racin, not cheatin ;) Enjoy Daytona! Mitch "Kyle Roberts" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:C0JLa.16214$[email hidden]...

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> > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:blqLa.305$[email hidden]... > > I sure hope you arent implying I jumped JS? > > Mitch, you are a fast and fair racer so no hard feelings. If your initial > reply had not been an FU it would have ended there. I admittedly shouldn't > have said anything since that never solves anything and just ends up in

what > happened. Going back and forth at each other. You didn't jump it, but you > sure did anticipate it. You had dropped off my tail, but after seeing the > replay it was due to the front runners not maintaining the pace speedafter > the pace car dropped off the track which seems to happen a lot. I think > everyone, myself included, can do a better job keeping the pack together > during cautions. This is especially true at the shorter tracks where youcan > lose laps if you need repairs and the field is strung out on the caution.I > was irritated because after you passed me just past the flag stand and > passed second place going into one, he slowed to give you room and Islowed > for him which gave the guy behind me the IMO not so good idea to diveunder > me going into the sharp right hander which ended badly for me. Most of our > cautions were caused by people trying to pass to soon and in the wrong > places. > > Sorry again to anyone that got caught in my warp/freeze with about 8 lapsto > go. I was running fourth coming T3 and the screen just froze. I thenscreen > refreshed and I was inside Larry's car back in 16th or so. That is the > second time in two weeks that this has happened. I will have toinvestigate > it before I run Rascar again. Dave must have given it to me. Have fun at > Daytona next week. I'll be there watching the real deal instead. > > Kyle > >

Yes, that was just for guido. *You* have to rename your car file. In article <3effc43d$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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> Aaah....was that for Guido, John? :) > I don't have a [1] in my car-file name. > > Bruce. > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Take the "[1]" out of the name and it should clear up. > > > > In article <tOuLa.461676$[email hidden]>, > > [email hidden] says... > > > Wrong carfile? I used the one i uploaded, or so i think. > > > ras_64_g_mielekamp[1].cup.car (only the 1 bothers me a bit) > > > > > >

Yes, that was just for guido. *You* have to rename your car file. says...

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> Aaah....was that for Guido, John? :) > I don't have a [1] in my car-file name. > Bruce. > > Take the "[1]" out of the name and it should clear up. > > > Wrong carfile? I used the one i uploaded, or so i think. > > > ras_64_g_mielekamp[1].cup.car (only the 1 bothers me a bit)

Done so...and for those who want it, I've uploaded it now. Bruce. "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Yes, that was just for guido. > > *You* have to rename your car file.

Bruce, It was only your *local* copy that was incorrectly named... (check your player info settings) The one you had posted previously was correctly named. -- ed_ "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding news:3f00237b$[email hidden]... > Done so...and for those who want it, I've uploaded it now. > > Bruce. > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Yes, that was just for guido. > > > > *You* have to rename your car file. > >

Aaaaaaahhhhhhh! Thanks, Ed. I'd fixed the local info too, before uploading the new file. Bruce. "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3f003559$[email hidden]...

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> Bruce, > It was only your *local* copy that was incorrectly named... (check your > player info settings) > The one you had posted previously was correctly named. > > -- > ed_ > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding > news:3f00237b$[email hidden]... > > Done so...and for those who want it, I've uploaded it now. > > > > Bruce. > > > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Yes, that was just for guido. > > > > > > *You* have to rename your car file. > > > > > >

> > I think we got three green laps in a row one time. Yeah, I was worried when that happened. My tyre temps soared to 125degrees :-) MS

"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Not at all. I was implying that some folks who were leading the race > on the restart were n0t maintaining pace speed until the green flag > came out. I was guilty of this on one occasion. Please put it down to me being a European rookie in only his second race and not fully conversant with NASCAR procedure. Lesson learned.. MS