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Hint: I'm pissed off. 1) There has been too goddamn much chatter during the race. It will stop right fuckin' now. Once we roll off from the grid, the idle chit chat STOPS. You will be BLACK FLAGGED if *I* think you're talking too much. 2) There will be no more restarts for people who miss the start. You have five whole minutes to take a leak, get a drink, or spank your monkey before the fuckin' race starts. Take the one lap penalty like a man. 3) If you get wall-glued, DO NOT turn down into traffic. If it happens again and if it results in an accident, you will be BLACK FLAGGED. 4) If you see smoke ahead of you, SLOW THE FUCK DOWN UNTIL YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING. If you don't have smoke on TURN IT ON. 5) If you're having problems seeing down the track, then in the name of fuckin' safety, ride the fuckin' roof so you can see further down the fuckin' track.

Feeling a bit liverish this morning, John? Bruce. "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hint: I'm pissed off........

>Hint: I'm pissed off. In other words...your gettin back to normal after the accident. Glad to hear it. I missed today because I was painting the house so I have no idea about the chat today but I think your over reacting on item 1. I only chat (other than auto) during cautions or after exiting the race. If one has caught the pack under yellow, is in position and can maintain control of the car than I see no problem. That said...I also understand rules and have no problem with them either but can disagree with em. No problem with 2-5 either. Dan

"John Simmons" wrote: > 1) There has been too goddamn much chatter during the race. It will > stop right fuckin' now. Once we roll off from the grid, the idle > chit chat STOPS. You will be BLACK FLAGGED if *I* think you're > talking too much. There is a rumour amongst the Brits that in RL, Nascar drivers SMS each other all the time cos Nascar is boring... --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.497 / Virus Database: 296 - Release Date: 04/07/2003

"John Simmons" wrote: > 2) There will be no more restarts for people who miss the start. You > have five whole minutes to take a leak, get a drink, or spank your > monkey before the fuckin' race starts. Take the one lap penalty like > a man. Priceless :) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.497 / Virus Database: 296 - Release Date: 04/07/2003

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> "John Simmons" wrote: > > > 2) There will be no more restarts for people who miss the start. You > > have five whole minutes to take a leak, get a drink, or spank your > > monkey before the fuckin' race starts. Take the one lap penalty like > > a man. > > Priceless :) >

even i'm guilty of missing the start once, so nobody should think/assume this is something personal agaist them. :)

I can here it now. restart , restart , restart I tried to log on but .........restart!! I just got wrecked coming out of the pits....restart!! I just got a bf,,,,,restart!! I didn't like my qual lap.....restart!! I agree with you John. No more restarts. Pandoras box is just waiting to be opened. "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <Dz9Qa.10175$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > "John Simmons" wrote: > > > > > 2) There will be no more restarts for people who miss the start. You > > > have five whole minutes to take a leak, get a drink, or spank your > > > monkey before the fuckin' race starts. Take the one lap penalty like > > > a man. > > > > Priceless :) > > > > even i'm guilty of missing the start once, so nobody should > think/assume this is something personal agaist them. :) >

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>In other words...your gettin back to normal after the accident. Glad to hear >it. I missed today because I was painting the house so I have no idea about >the >chat today but I think your over reacting on item 1. I only chat (other than >auto) during cautions or after exiting the race. If one has caught the pack >under yellow, is in position and can maintain control of the car than I see >no >problem.

That's just it. Most people CAN'T keep control while typing. If you're following someone, you see them either slow suddenly, or drift to the side, catch it, drift the other way, etc. Then you see the chat and figure that's what they were doing while the car was all over the track. For me to type, I have to reach OVER my wheel and try to peck out a message while also trying to watch out for the guy in front of me(who may not be in total control). It's even a big hassle to reach the function keys to chat(pit in/pit out, etc.). As a result, I don't type very much. If I want someone to pass low, I just go high on the track. They usually get the message... Eldred -- Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info on my homepage) Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

>>For me to type, Ihave to reach OVER my wheel and try to peck out a message while also trying to watch out for the guy in front of me(who may not be in total control). It's even a big hassle to reach the function keys to chat(pit in/pit out, etc.). As a result, I don't type very much. If I want someone to pass low, I just go high on the track. They usually get the message... Eldred>> Amen. I'm the same way. I keep it to a minimum....safer that way. Michael

In Formula 1 they could write a book since the cars all but drive themselves and they never have to worry about attempting a pass. -- Scott B. Husted "PA-Scott" ICQ# 4395450 http://www.Husted.cc "Tony Rickard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Qy9Qa.10174$[email hidden]... > "John Simmons" wrote: > > > 1) There has been too goddamn much chatter during the race. It will > > stop right fuckin' now. Once we roll off from the grid, the idle > > chit chat STOPS. You will be BLACK FLAGGED if *I* think you're > > talking too much. > > There is a rumour amongst the Brits that in RL, Nascar drivers SMS each > other all the time cos Nascar is boring... > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.497 / Virus Database: 296 - Release Date: 04/07/2003 > >

"Scott B. Husted" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3f118943$[email hidden]... > In Formula 1 they could write a book since the cars all but drivethemselves > and they never have to worry about attempting a pass. >At least the F1 guy's can write ;)

In article <[email hidden]>, "grub" <[email hidden]> writes: >I agree with you John. No more restarts. Pandoras box is just waiting to be >opened. Hehe... When we started, I was against restarts. But in a few races, someone wanted a restart, and John restarted for them. So this time, *I* restart for someone, now John bans restarts. I just can't win...<g> Eldred -- Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info on my homepage) Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

You win! ;) -- Scott B. Husted "PA-Scott" ICQ# 4395450 http://www.Husted.cc "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bes3ef$8f4k0$[email hidden]... > > "Scott B. Husted" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3f118943$[email hidden]... > > In Formula 1 they could write a book since the cars all but drive > themselves > > and they never have to worry about attempting a pass. > > > At least the F1 guy's can write ;) > >

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> In article <[email hidden]>, "grub" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >I agree with you John. No more restarts. Pandoras box is just waiting to be > >opened. > > Hehe... When we started, I was against restarts. But in a few races, someone > wanted a restart, and John restarted for them. So this time, *I* restart for > someone, now John bans restarts. I just can't win...<g> > > Eldred >

Well, I did that because it seems like we have a lot of restarts because someone wasn't in their chair when the pace car pulled off the grid. If you remember, i was one of the first to ask for a restart yesterday so that steve wouldn't start a lap down. .

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>In article <[email hidden]>, "grub" ><[email hidden]> writes: > >>I agree with you John. No more restarts. Pandoras box is just waiting to be >>opened. > >Hehe... When we started, I was against restarts. But in a few races, someone >wanted a restart, and John restarted for them. So this time, *I* restart for >someone, now John bans restarts. I just can't win...<g> > >Eldred

I didn't have a problem with the RS Eldred. It wasn't like we were restarting because someone got spun... someone just missed the start and at the time I felt like it was a good move. I also don't have a problem with reiterating the fact that we all need to be ready when the command to start engines is given. Brian Oster

Chatting really is the least of our problems - and who's to blame? With yellow after yellow after yellow - no wonder people get bored and start talking. Now, too many yellows caused by too many stupid moves - that *is* a big problem. And yes, before some smartass come in with some stupid remark, I've done my share - of both. -- ed_

In article <3f11f402$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Chatting really is the least of our problems - and who's to blame? With > yellow after yellow after yellow - no wonder people get bored and start > talking. Now, too many yellows caused by too many stupid moves - that *is* > a big problem. Go through the list of incidents for yesterday's race. 2/3 of them were because people spun themselves. There were only a couple of stupid things that were done. The rest of the stuff was a lack of practice and a lack of willingness to use aids when it was needed.

"John Simmons" <said:> > Go through the list of incidents for yesterday's race. 2/3 of them > were because people spun themselves. There were only a couple of > stupid things that were done. The rest of the stuff was a lack of > practice and a lack of willingness to use aids when it was needed. That's exactly what I mean John... "stupid moves" as in driving beyond their limits and/or going flat out on cold tires... Look at 9/10 of my restarts - I always loose ground to those in front.... Why? Because I go seven "tenths", as old Jenks would put it. I always try to do a few laps before I start picking up the pace... And usually that does the trick. The problem is that we have god damn many yellows that we never even get any heat into our tires. The odd exception here being when I do something stupid as trying to go 3 wide into T1.. (Dave lost momentum and Jan was going a bit too slow (iirc) so I thought I could squeese thru...) I do agree on the practice bit though... people really need to learn how to drive within **their** limits. -- ed_ http://rascar.racesimcentral.com ----------------------------------------------- $10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC

So which was it John? Leak, drink, or a little monkey abuse? <g>. "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <Dz9Qa.10175$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > "John Simmons" wrote: > > > > > 2) There will be no more restarts for people who miss the start. You > > > have five whole minutes to take a leak, get a drink, or spank your > > > monkey before the fuckin' race starts. Take the one lap penalty like > > > a man. > > > > Priceless :) > > > > even i'm guilty of missing the start once, so nobody should > think/assume this is something personal agaist them. :) >

For me, it was "leak". :) In article <jRMQa.10826$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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> So which was it John? Leak, drink, or a little monkey abuse? <g>. > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <Dz9Qa.10175$[email hidden]>, > > [email hidden] says... > > > "John Simmons" wrote: > > > > > > > 2) There will be no more restarts for people who miss the start. You > > > > have five whole minutes to take a leak, get a drink, or spank your > > > > monkey before the fuckin' race starts. Take the one lap penalty like > > > > a man. > > > > > > Priceless :) > > > > > > > even i'm guilty of missing the start once, so nobody should > > think/assume this is something personal agaist them. :) > >