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RASCAR: Pocono incident Review posted.

21 posts by 10 people · 29 Jul 2003 22:54 UTC - 31 Jul 2003 18:23 UTC

Should RASCAR discussion move off the newsgroup?

Jan Verschueren posted the Pocono incident review only on the RASCAR forum to avoid sniping from non-participants on RAS. Others argued RASCAR belongs to the newsgroup and its readers, while EldredP said airing league disputes publicly was causing problems.

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LOL, most of the discussion held here would be better held on the actual forum Sean "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:rWCVa.40607$[email hidden]... > > On the forum... > > But this IS the forum. > > >
"Tim Miser" wrote... > > On the forum... > > But this IS the forum. Yes, and I deliberately do not post it here. I'm not giving RAS the satisfaction of sniping from the sidelines easily. The races and how they run are the business of 20-odd people facing off against eachother, not of the hundreds that sit on their arses and think they're superior because they're not moved by the things they do. Jan. =---
In article <[email hidden]>, "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> writes: >"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:rWCVa.40607$[email hidden]... >> On the forum... > >But this IS the forum. That's the problem - It really *shouldn't* be... Eldred -- Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info on my homepage) Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:AHEVa.40749$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (13 lines)> "Tim Miser" wrote... > > > On the forum... > > > > But this IS the forum. > > Yes, and I deliberately do not post it here. I'm not giving RAS the > satisfaction of sniping from the sidelines easily. > > The races and how they run are the business of 20-odd people facing off > against eachother, not of the hundreds that sit on their arses and think > they're superior because they're not moved by the things they do. > > Jan.
Hey, I race 42 other AI drivers and I kick their butts day in and day out! Don't try and tell me that measly "humans" can do better. HAHAHAHA! The joke's on YOU pal! ;)
Eldred, I beg to disagree. We've reiterated time and time again the right of RASCAR to do all their posting here and I've always supported you guys in this because RASCAR and r.a.s. is the same. RASCAR is the racing event for people in r.a.s. There should. IMHO, AAMOF not be another forum, there should be no necessity for anyone participating in RASCAR to read anything else but r.a.s. to know everything he wants to know about RASCAR and the events. Achim "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... ... > >But this IS the forum. > > That's the problem - It really *shouldn't* be......
>Eldred, I beg to disagree. > >We've reiterated time and time again the right of RASCAR to do all their >posting here and I've always supported you guys in this because RASCAR and >r.a.s. is the same. RASCAR is the racing event for people in r.a.s. Maybe, but having discussions here causes a whole host of problems. From adding bandwidth for people who aren't interested, to airing dirty laundry, to people(non-participants) taking potshots. >There should. IMHO, AAMOF not be another forum, there should be no necessity >for anyone participating in RASCAR to read anything else but r.a.s. to know >everything he wants to know about RASCAR and the events. In theory, I agree. In practice, it might not be worth it anymore... Eldred -- Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info on my homepage) Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
Joachim Trensz wrote:
Quoted text (9 lines)> Eldred, I beg to disagree. > > We've reiterated time and time again the right of RASCAR to do all their > posting here and I've always supported you guys in this because RASCAR and > r.a.s. is the same. RASCAR is the racing event for people in r.a.s. > > There should. IMHO, AAMOF not be another forum, there should be no necessity > for anyone participating in RASCAR to read anything else but r.a.s. to know > everything he wants to know about RASCAR and the events.
I totally agree. By moving the chat away from here you are simply saying RASCAR only belongs to the drivers, and not the fans. :) I watch all the races, btw, so I'm a fan. :) Gerry
"Gerry Aitken" wrote...
Quoted text (7 lines)> > <snip> > > I totally agree. By moving the chat away from here you > are simply saying RASCAR only belongs to the drivers, > and not the fans. :) > > I watch all the races, btw, so I'm a fan. :)
I can think of a couple other nouns that are more appropriate... ;-) Jan. =---
EldredP wrote:
Quoted text (10 lines)>>Eldred, I beg to disagree. >> >>We've reiterated time and time again the right of RASCAR to do all their >>posting here and I've always supported you guys in this because RASCAR and >>r.a.s. is the same. RASCAR is the racing event for people in r.a.s. > > > Maybe, but having discussions here causes a whole host of problems. From > adding bandwidth for people who aren't interested, to airing dirty laundry, to > people(non-participants) taking potshots.
But you also got honest opinions from people without axes to grind. >>There should. IMHO, AAMOF not be another forum, there should be no necessity >>for anyone participating in RASCAR to read anything else but r.a.s. to know >>everything he wants to know about RASCAR and the events. > > > In theory, I agree. In practice, it might not be worth it anymore... Come mate, a couple of cry babies throw their toys out the pram and it all goes tits up? Gerry
Jan Verschueren wrote:
Quoted text (17 lines)> "Gerry Aitken" wrote... > >>><snip> >> >>I totally agree. By moving the chat away from here you >>are simply saying RASCAR only belongs to the drivers, >>and not the fans. :) >> >>I watch all the races, btw, so I'm a fan. :) > > > I can think of a couple other nouns that are more appropriate... ;-) > > Jan. > =--- > >
Sad b'?
I understand your concerns Eldred, although IMHO, they're an integral part of the nature of RASCAR. I think you weren't referring to me when you said 'potshots', but I'd like to assure you that my intention, however vain that may have been, was solely to contribute my experience regarding the issue in question (clean driving). Achim "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... ... > Maybe, but having discussions here causes a whole host of problems. From > adding bandwidth for people who aren't interested, to airing dirtylaundry, to > people(non-participants) taking potshots.... > In theory, I agree. In practice, it might not be worth it anymore...
Joachim Trensz wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)> > I understand your concerns Eldred, although IMHO, they're an integral part > of the nature of RASCAR. > > I think you weren't referring to me when you said 'potshots', but I'd like > to assure you that my intention, however vain that may have been, was solely > to contribute my experience regarding the issue in question (clean driving).
Where as I on the other hand didn't feel like contributing anything useful this time (either) and my comments can rightfully be interpreted as sniping Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--
Nick 30 Jul 2003 19:59 UTC↳ reply to EldredP#59314
"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (9 lines)> In article <[email hidden]>, "Tim Miser" > <[email hidden]> writes: > >"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:rWCVa.40607$[email hidden]... > >> On the forum... > > > >But this IS the forum. > > That's the problem - It really *shouldn't* be...
I think it should be done here, because I download all the newsgroup posts and read them offline. It's easier. So there.
In article <AHEVa.40749$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > The races and how they run are the business of 20-odd people facing off > against eachother, not of the hundreds that sit on their arses and think > they're superior because they're not moved by the things they do. > Ooooo... High AND mighty... Cheeky, very cheeky. -- MRSisson LOAD "GPL",8,1 RUN
EldredP 31 Jul 2003 03:34 UTC↳ reply to Nick#59376
In article <bg9c06$mbo1n$[email hidden]>, "Nick" <[email hidden]> writes: >> That's the problem - It really *shouldn't* be... > >I think it should be done here, because I download all the newsgroup posts >and read them offline. It's easier. So there. I do as well. That's why I have a distaste for forums. But in this case I'd just have to read the forum occasionally... Eldred -- Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info on my homepage) Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
In article <[email hidden]>, Gerry Aitken <[email hidden]> writes: >> In theory, I agree. In practice, it might not be worth it anymore... > >Come mate, a couple of cry babies throw their toys out the pram and it >all goes tits up? Hey, maybe I'm NOT a good admin... Eldred -- Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info on my homepage) Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.
elrikk 31 Jul 2003 04:28 UTC↳ reply to EldredP#59385
"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> In article <[email hidden]>, Gerry Aitken > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >> In theory, I agree. In practice, it might not be worth it anymore... > > > >Come mate, a couple of cry babies throw their toys out the pram and it > >all goes tits up? > > Hey, maybe I'm NOT a good admin... > > Eldred
Something tells me that "admin" skills are not the problem here. ;o) Elrikk Unless maybe we could get Judge Roy Bean!
"EldredP" wrote... > <snip> > Hey, maybe I'm NOT a good admin... So far, so good, I'd say. Current trouble is not admin related, just some latent annoyances which have surfaced due to the nature of the last two races. It's good they get talked about. Jan. =---

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