Guys, post your times.
The best ive done so far is 1:17.50 during a race. Avg about 1.18-1.19.
grub
RASCAR drivers compare Watkins Glen lap times
Ahead of the RASCAR race at Watkins Glen, drivers posted their NR2003 practice lap times, mostly in the 1:15 to 1:18 range, and were startled by reports of a 1:12.9. They discussed tyre wear over a race distance, front lockups and driving aids. Plenty of joking filled the thread, including a gag about lap times being read as speeds.
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I've done a 1:14 qual and 1:15 in race. And that's still slow. :o( Plus
those were with my own setups, I can't get much below 1:17 with the fast
setup. Need to be down in the 1:12's to be competitive.
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> Guys, post your times. > > The best ive done so far is 1:17.50 during a race. Avg about 1.18-1.19. > > grub > > >I saw one of the new guys do a 1:12.9...
I'm doing 1:16's consistently, and I saw Eldred do three 1:17's in a
row. :)
1:12's lap after lap are gonna force you into the pits long before
everyone else.
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> I've done a 1:14 qual and 1:15 in race. And that's still slow. :o( Plus > those were with my own setups, I can't get much below 1:17 with the fast > setup. Need to be down in the 1:12's to be competitive. > > > "grub" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Guys, post your times. > > > > The best ive done so far is 1:17.50 during a race. Avg about 1.18-1.19. > >>I've done a 1:14 qual and 1:15 in race. And that's still slow. :o( Plus
>those were with my own setups, I can't get much below 1:17 with the fast
>setup. Need to be down in the 1:12's to be competitive.
Are you KIDDING me?!? Damn...
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On 04 Aug 2003 11:57:08 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote:
>>I've done a 1:14 qual and 1:15 in race. And that's still slow. :o( Plus
>>those were with my own setups, I can't get much below 1:17 with the fast
>>setup. Need to be down in the 1:12's to be competitive.
>
>Are you KIDDING me?!? Damn...
>
No joke. With the fixed fast I was fealing pretty good about myself
if I can turn a 1:14 during the race, most of my race laps will be in
the mid 1:15 range. 1:12 with fixed fast.... insane. Actually 1:12
w/ any setup is insane.
Brian Oster
Okay I don't really race online so I guess I don't know for sure. I was
basing that statement on the fact that a) the real guys are running 1:11's
and 1:12's, b) If you set the AI at 100% they run 1:12's and 1:13's, c) I
think the NR2003 record is around 1:09, so add 3 seconds to that for a
reasonable race lap and you get 1:12, d) I have downloaded and analyzed 1:12
laps in NR2003RA and they don't appear to be doing anything that would be
impossible for a good driver to achieve with the fast setup, e) if I can do
an occasional 1:14, shame on anybody who can't do better! ;o)
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> On 04 Aug 2003 11:57:08 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > > > No joke. With the fixed fast I was fealing pretty good about myself > if I can turn a 1:14 during the race, most of my race laps will be in > the mid 1:15 range. 1:12 with fixed fast.... insane. Actually 1:12 > w/ any setup is insane. > > Brian Oster"Haqsau" wrote...
> <snip>
> e) if I can do an occasional 1:14, shame on anybody
> who can't do better! ;o)
:-(
Jan.
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>e) if I can do
>an occasional 1:14, shame on anybody who can't do better! ;o)
I know where you live, man...<g>
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Brian Oster wrote:
You can run 1:19's with the FAST setup using the keyboard and driving
aids :-)
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> > On 04 Aug 2003 11:57:08 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > > >>I've done a 1:14 qual and 1:15 in race. And that's still slow. :o( Plus > >>those were with my own setups, I can't get much below 1:17 with the fast > >>setup. Need to be down in the 1:12's to be competitive. > > > >Are you KIDDING me?!? Damn... > > > > No joke. With the fixed fast I was fealing pretty good about myself > if I can turn a 1:14 during the race, most of my race laps will be in > the mid 1:15 range. 1:12 with fixed fast.... insane. Actually 1:12 > w/ any setup is insane.LOL!
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The best I've done is 1:18.3. I guess I will be hanging around the back.
bluestringer
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> Guys, post your times. > > The best ive done so far is 1:17.50 during a race. Avg about 1.18-1.19. > > grub > > >The best I've done is 1:18.3. I guess I will be*** around the back.
bluestringer
"bluestringer" wrote...
> <snip>
> The best I've done is 1:18.3. I guess I will be hanging around the back.
It's going to be real busy back there.
Jan.
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Just keep her on the track for the entire race and you can almost be assured
of a good finish.
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> "bluestringer" wrote... > > <snip> > > The best I've done is 1:18.3. I guess I will be hanging around the back. > > It's going to be real busy back there. > > Jan. > =--- > >"Mitch_A" <
With all the mods for f1 2k2 this past year, I've bascially ignored the
Papy side for quite some time. Got online the other day At Watkins, had a
flat and then a lockup in the esses within 3 laps...just like old times for
me!!! The average times with that group were 1:18's to 19's. One guy was
faster than that. I was quite a-bit slower.
dave henrie
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>> > The best I've done is 1:18.3. I guess I will be hanging around the >> > back. >> >> It's going to be real busy back there. >> >> Jan. >> =---"Mitch_A" wrote...
> Just keep her on the track for the entire race and you can
> almost be assured of a good finish.
Don't bet against me.
Jan. <g>
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>"bluestringer" wrote...
>> <snip>
>> The best I've done is 1:18.3. I guess I will be hanging around the back.
>
>It's going to be real busy back there.
You guys need a RAS F1 driver to come over and drive your car for a
race? It's realistic, right... =)
Jason
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>"bluestringer" wrote...
>> <snip>
>> The best I've done is 1:18.3. I guess I will be hanging around the back.
>
>It's going to be real busy back there.
No shit...<g>
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> Guys, post your times.
>
> The best ive done so far is 1:17.50 during a race. Avg about 1.18-1.19.
>
> grub
I can do consistent mid 1:16s and just ran a pickup race online and
qualified at a mid 1:15. I think that will probably be middle of the pack on
Saturday.
Kyle
>Just keep her on the track for the entire race and you can almost be assured
>of a good finish.
therein lies the rub
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>Just keep her on the track for the entire race and you can almost be assured
>of a good finish.
>
>
I pity you guys. I think this is going to be a real tough race. How
many laps you doing? It may actually be worthwile pressing f5 during
the race and keeping an eye on those tyres. See any smoke from a lockup
and you're guaranteed to be heading in for new boots within a couple of
laps, and that's pretty easy to do here, though I think engine braking
is the key. Even without lockups and my front right is in the yellow
within 6 to 7 laps. Add to that the tendency for the car to want to
oversteer out of the slower corners at each end of the s/f straight (and
pretty much everywhere else really :) and this looks like it could get
messy.
Good luck. :)
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>"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in >message >news:YGAXa.48561$[email hidden]... >> "bluestringer" wrote... >> > <snip> >> > The best I've done is 1:18.3. I guess I will be hanging around the back. >> >> It's going to be real busy back there. >> >> Jan. >> =--- >> >> > >"You can run 1:19's with the FAST setup using the keyboard and driving
aids :-)"
Well, Damn, my keyboard looks a whole hell of a lot like a wheel, and
I've been in the sand enough to know that the driving aids are not
turned on. I can manage 1:19, and I even put it in the grass at turn
1. Maybe if I keep it on the track, I'm a 1:18? I am embarrassed to
drive this track so shitty, having grown up in the area. I used to
watch Andretti, Lauda, and the boys mix it up when I was a kid. Loved
the 6 wheel Elf car. Used to camp right where the cars would come up
hill from the boot. Saw Jacques Villenueve (sr.) spin out, and then
just jump on it to turn himself around again. Those were the days! I
have all of the graphics turned on, but I still haven't seen the
crazies burning cars in "The Bog".
Back to reality.
I have a lot of work to do. Some papy online races proves the point
that if you can stay out of trouble, you can have a good finish by
default. Most everyone will end up in the grass at some point, and you
can cruise on by. My goals for this weekend are: 1. finish; 2. keep it
off the grass; 3. keep it off the roof. 4. try not to get consecutive
BF's for speeding in the pits - 35 is awfully slow and going downhill
is a bitch.
Dave
Well, then I'm REALLY screwed :)
-Larry
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> You can run 1:19's with the FAST setup using the keyboard and driving > aids :-) > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > "goyl at nettx dot no" > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" > --Groucho Marx--Well I just spent some time with the fast setup and just about deleted the
game in frustration. After two weeks of playing nothing but F1C trying to
wrestle a cup car around a road course just feels horrible. In half an hour
I managed a very sloppy 1:16.6 with the fast setup before I gave up. Half
an hour was all I could stand. I have definitely done better with my own
setups. The fast setup has the brake bias way too far forward, which means
you are always cooking the front tires on every corner entry. Plus like
many cup car setups they use track bar rather than rear ARB to balance the
rear, which leaves it with no bite in the rear tires and a nasty tendency
for the rear to whip around without any way to save it. Drop the track bar
and balance the rear with the ARB instead and it will stop fishtailing out
of every corner. If you set these things up like a road car instead of a
dragster they are faster and more stable. I was really thinking I might
join you guys for this one race, but after that experience, no thanks. I'm
off to Hungary for a little F1 practice.
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> "Haqsau" wrote... > > <snip> > > e) if I can do an occasional 1:14, shame on anybody > > who can't do better! ;o) > > :-( > > Jan. > =--- > >I'm running in the 15's and 16's, but for the race will probably drop the
pace a bit to conserve the tyres and try to avoid front lockups. Guess I'll
be down the back keeping Eldred company, thats if I get on the invite list
(hint...hint Eldred:o) )
Steve
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I can go 20 laps on a set of tires...
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> > I pity you guys. I think this is going to be a real tough race. How > many laps you doing? It may actually be worthwile pressing f5 during > the race and keeping an eye on those tyres. See any smoke from a lockup > and you're guaranteed to be heading in for new boots within a couple of > laps, and that's pretty easy to do here, though I think engine braking > is the key. Even without lockups and my front right is in the yellow > within 6 to 7 laps. Add to that the tendency for the car to want to > oversteer out of the slower corners at each end of the s/f straight (and > pretty much everywhere else really :) and this looks like it could get > messy.In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
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We don't want people "joining for just this one race". We want people
around us on the track that race with us all the time. The whole
point is to race with people you know.
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> Well I just spent some time with the fast setup and just about deleted the > game in frustration. After two weeks of playing nothing but F1C trying to > wrestle a cup car around a road course just feels horrible. In half an hour > I managed a very sloppy 1:16.6 with the fast setup before I gave up. Half > an hour was all I could stand. I have definitely done better with my own > setups. The fast setup has the brake bias way too far forward, which means > you are always cooking the front tires on every corner entry. Plus like > many cup car setups they use track bar rather than rear ARB to balance the > rear, which leaves it with no bite in the rear tires and a nasty tendency > for the rear to whip around without any way to save it. Drop the track bar > and balance the rear with the ARB instead and it will stop fishtailing out > of every corner. If you set these things up like a road car instead of a > dragster they are faster and more stable. > I was really thinking I might > join you guys for this one race, but after that experience, no thanks.I can eat 50 eggs ;)
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>
> I can go 20 laps on a set of tires...
>
Don't worry eldred, John has taken care of it.
Steve
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thats if I get on the invite list
> (hint...hint Eldred:o) )
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I ate 35 White Castle hamburgers once. :)
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> I can eat 50 eggs ;) > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <zFk3JBAp2wL$[email hidden]>, > > [email hidden] says... > > [snip] > > > > I can go 20 laps on a set of tires... > > > > >>
>I ate 35 White Castle hamburgers once. :)
>
I feel sorry for whoever was NEAR you at the time...<g>
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>I'm running in the 15's and 16's, but for the race will probably drop the
>pace a bit to conserve the tyres and try to avoid front lockups. Guess I'll
>be down the back keeping Eldred company, thats if I get on the invite list
>(hint...hint Eldred:o) )
As a matter of fact, I just got John's e-mail 2 minutes ago. You're good to
go.
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Thank you for reminding me of the other reason I don't race with you guys.
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> We don't want people "joining for just this one race". We want people
> around us on the track that race with us all the time. The whole
> point is to race with people you know.
>
>
I'm in the mid-16's with stab assist on. Not sure if that hurts or helps.
I'm still experimenting.
-Larry
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> I'm running in the 15's and 16's, but for the race will probably drop the
> pace a bit to conserve the tyres and try to avoid front lockups. GuessI'll
> be down the back keeping Eldred company, thats if I get on the invite list
> (hint...hint Eldred:o) )
>
> Steve
>
>
Yeah, and it deep too!
-Larry
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> I can eat 50 eggs ;) > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <zFk3JBAp2wL$[email hidden]>, > > [email hidden] says... > > [snip] > > > > I can go 20 laps on a set of tires... > > > >That would kill me, especially since I'm allergic to Onions. I think those
things come from Cows with the Onions already embedded!
-Larry
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> In article <bgo1nm$hsf$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > says... > > I can eat 50 eggs ;) > > > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > In article <zFk3JBAp2wL$[email hidden]>, > > > [email hidden] says... > > > > [snip] > > > > > > I can go 20 laps on a set of tires... > > > > > > > > > > > I ate 35 White Castle hamburgers once. :)
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> I can eat 50 eggs ;)
>Ok, so I need to stay AHEAD of you!!! DAmn, what is that smell???
LOL
Sean
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Well, since I have such a sunny personality, a well-balanced
disposition, and an overall charming demeanor, I can only surmise
that you're simply afraid you can't compete on a weekly basis.
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> Thank you for reminding me of the other reason I don't race with you guys. > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > We don't want people "joining for just this one race". We want people > > around us on the track that race with us all the time. The whole > > point is to race with people you know.
Larry wrote:
Nah, I'm just good.....:-D
Beers and cheers
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> > Well, then I'm REALLY screwed :) > > -Larry > > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > You can run 1:19's with the FAST setup using the keyboard and driving > > aids :-)Hehe, nice bait, but I'm not biting.
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> > Well, since I have such a sunny personality, a well-balanced > disposition, and an overall charming demeanor, I can only surmise > that you're simply afraid you can't compete on a weekly basis. > > >In article <[email hidden]>, John
Simmons <[email hidden]> writes
Oh yeah, forgot to mention that this was without any assists except
autoclutch. Are you needing any assists to maintain your tyres that
long? I was in the 1:15s whilst doing this. Maybe I was still pushing
too hard. I'll give it another try tonight to see if I can save the
tyres and what lap times I need to do in order to do so.
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>In article <zFk3JBAp2wL$[email hidden]>, >[email hidden] says... >> >> I pity you guys. I think this is going to be a real tough race. How >> many laps you doing? It may actually be worthwile pressing f5 during >> the race and keeping an eye on those tyres. See any smoke from a >lockup >> and you're guaranteed to be heading in for new boots within a couple of >> laps, and that's pretty easy to do here, though I think engine braking >> is the key. Even without lockups and my front right is in the yellow >> within 6 to 7 laps. Add to that the tendency for the car to want to >> oversteer out of the slower corners at each end of the s/f straight (and >> pretty much everywhere else really :) and this looks like it could get >> messy. > >I can go 20 laps on a set of tires... >In article <aWxNdAAjfDM$[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...
I am racing one-handed (after miter saw accident) and using auto-
trans, stability, and some steering assist, and just trying to stay
out of everyone's way. I usually don't use any aids on roadies
excepot auto--clutch, but injury is kinda forcing me to.
I'm doing 1:16's and 1:17's, and treating the brake pedal real
easy...
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> In article <[email hidden]>, John > Simmons <[email hidden]> writes > >In article <zFk3JBAp2wL$[email hidden]>, > >[email hidden] says... > >> > >> I pity you guys. I think this is going to be a real tough race. How > >> many laps you doing? It may actually be worthwile pressing f5 during > >> the race and keeping an eye on those tyres. See any smoke from a > >lockup > >> and you're guaranteed to be heading in for new boots within a couple of > >> laps, and that's pretty easy to do here, though I think engine braking > >> is the key. Even without lockups and my front right is in the yellow > >> within 6 to 7 laps. Add to that the tendency for the car to want to > >> oversteer out of the slower corners at each end of the s/f straight (and > >> pretty much everywhere else really :) and this looks like it could get > >> messy. > > > >I can go 20 laps on a set of tires... > > > > Oh yeah, forgot to mention that this was without any assists except > autoclutch. Are you needing any assists to maintain your tyres that > long? I was in the 1:15s whilst doing this. Maybe I was still pushing > too hard. I'll give it another try tonight to see if I can save the > tyres and what lap times I need to do in order to do so. >In article <[email hidden]>, John
Simmons <[email hidden]> writes
I backed off as best I could. I struggle real hard not to push, even
when practising. :) Was mainly in the 1:16 range with some in the
1:15's and some in the 1:17's generally. I still found that the fronts
would end up in the yellows by lap 9 or 10 at the latest, though I found
that this didn't slow me down by much and was still able to do 1:17's or
better. The most laps I have managed before locking up was 12 laps
though, after which the tyres have been ready to burst.
Also, I still found it easy to lockup, even when being more gentle with
the brake pedal because, if I was too gentle I would suddenly realise I
was going to carry too much speed into the corner and would then brake
harder. To avoid this sudden excessive braking, what I've tried to
discipline myself to do in those situations is to change down an extra
gear to help slow the car down. This seems to help avoid those sudden
tyre lockups and still gets me through the corner without running off,
though I'm still not conditioned enough to do this automatically.
Also, I've noticed that changing down as early as possible helps a lot
with braking (ie. engine braking) whilst helping to avoid tyre lockups
and, so far, I haven't noticed any mechanical gremlins as a consequence
of this. Though its still early days.
One possible little tip to avoid oversteering out of the slower corners.
Pick a spot off the track and try to drive towards it. For instance,
out of T1 I have chosen the green light off the track towards the left,
by the armco. If I steer towards that (keeping it in the left front
window section when using in-car view) it consciously makes me avoid
turning in too much under acceleration out of the corner. Once I know
the car is relatively straight I can then start looking further down the
track as normal.
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>In article <aWxNdAAjfDM$[email hidden]>, >[email hidden] says... >> In article <[email hidden]>, >John >> Simmons <[email hidden]> writes >> >In article <zFk3JBAp2wL$[email hidden] >>, >> >[email hidden] says... >> >> >> >> I pity you guys. I think this is going to be a real tough race. How >> >> many laps you doing? It may actually be worthwile pressing f5 during >> >> the race and keeping an eye on those tyres. See any smoke from a >> >lockup >> >> and you're guaranteed to be heading in for new boots within a couple of >> >> laps, and that's pretty easy to do here, though I think engine braking >> >> is the key. Even without lockups and my front right is in the yellow >> >> within 6 to 7 laps. Add to that the tendency for the car to want to >> >> oversteer out of the slower corners at each end of the s/f straight (and >> >> pretty much everywhere else really :) and this looks like it could get >> >> messy. >> > >> >I can go 20 laps on a set of tires... >> > >> >> Oh yeah, forgot to mention that this was without any assists except >> autoclutch. Are you needing any assists to maintain your tyres that >> long? I was in the 1:15s whilst doing this. Maybe I was still pushing >> too hard. I'll give it another try tonight to see if I can save the >> tyres and what lap times I need to do in order to do so. >> > >I am racing one-handed (after miter saw accident) and using auto- >trans, stability, and some steering assist, and just trying to stay >out of everyone's way. I usually don't use any aids on roadies >excepot auto--clutch, but injury is kinda forcing me to. > >I'm doing 1:16's and 1:17's, and treating the brake pedal real >easy... >John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote in
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You tell 'em John :-)
Jerry
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> In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > says... >> Thank you for reminding me of the other reason I don't race with you >> guys. >> >> "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >> > >> > > > Well, since I have such a sunny personality, a well-balanced > disposition, and an overall charming demeanor, I can only surmise > that you're simply afraid you can't compete on a weekly basis. > > > >Just did a solo tyre run off line. Managed 29 laps, with f/l down to 25%
rears at 50%. not fast times. Real easy on the brakes though. Under race
conditions, I expect a little more tyre wear...
So if you take it easy, you should be in good shape to have a hard run at
the end with a top up of fuel and fresh tires.
Steve
LAP TIME
1 79.243000
2 77.156000
3 77.022000
4 77.078000
5 76.326000
6 77.055000
7 76.369000
8 76.701000
9 77.520000
10 76.669000
11 77.054000
12 76.733000
13 76.744000
14 76.321000
15 77.298000
16 77.679000
17 77.708000
18 77.148000
19 76.640000
20 76.933000
21 76.857000
22 77.767000
23 77.474000
24 76.867000
25 76.887000
26 77.919000
27 77.812000
28 77.385000
29 77.569000
Im running low 17's without pushing. Tires go into yellow at lap
13-14....could push into the 16's but surely will eat up the tires. Probabley
just hang back with the others and see where we end up.
mike (shamrock 28)
>Im running low 17's without pushing. Tires go into yellow at lap
>13-14....could push into the 16's but surely will eat up the tires.
>Probabley
>just hang back with the others and see where we end up.
>
I never even *thought* to check the tires when I ran on John's server...
Eldred
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Ok, we're all talking times, and this guy posts MPH :)
-Larry
"Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Just did a solo tyre run off line. Managed 29 laps, with f/l down to 25%
> rears at 50%. not fast times. Real easy on the brakes though. Underrace
> conditions, I expect a little more tyre wear...
> So if you take it easy, you should be in good shape to have a hard runat
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> the end with a top up of fuel and fresh tires. > > Steve > > LAP TIME > 1 79.243000 > 2 77.156000 > 3 77.022000 > 4 77.078000 > 5 76.326000 > 6 77.055000 > 7 76.369000 > 8 76.701000 > 9 77.520000 > 10 76.669000 > 11 77.054000 > 12 76.733000 > 13 76.744000 > 14 76.321000 > 15 77.298000 > 16 77.679000 > 17 77.708000 > 18 77.148000 > 19 76.640000 > 20 76.933000 > 21 76.857000 > 22 77.767000 > 23 77.474000 > 24 76.867000 > 25 76.887000 > 26 77.919000 > 27 77.812000 > 28 77.385000 > 29 77.569000 > > >Ok, I'm down into the low 1:16's and high 1:15's now, with no assits.
Well, I do use the driving line to help with braking points :)
I have no idea how hard I'm being on the car though. Only time will tell.
And, for me at least, Stability Assist was costing me a second a lap.
My biggest problem is consistent speeds into that wacko chicane they put in
a few years ago, and I still lock up the RF going into 1 too much.
-Larry
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> > "Neil Charlton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:bgo1nm$hsf$[email hidden]... > > I can eat 50 eggs ;) > > > Ok, so I need to stay AHEAD of you!!! DAmn, what is that smell??? > > LOL > Sean > >"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:dRdYa.8895$ug.1213@lakeread01:
Looks like times to me. 77.156= 1:17.156
Jerry
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> Ok, we're all talking times, and this guy posts MPH :) > > -Larry > > "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3f30fed9$0$28118$[email hidden]... >> Just did a solo tyre run off line. Managed 29 laps, with f/l down to >> 25% rears at 50%. not fast times. Real easy on the brakes though. >> Under > race >> conditions, I expect a little more tyre wear... >> So if you take it easy, you should be in good shape to have a hard >> run > at >> the end with a top up of fuel and fresh tires. >> >> Steve >> >> LAP TIME >> 1 79.243000 >> 2 77.156000 >> 3 77.022000 >> 4 77.078000 >> 5 76.326000 >> 6 77.055000 >> 7 76.369000 >> 8 76.701000 >> 9 77.520000 >> 10 76.669000 >> 11 77.054000 >> 12 76.733000 >> 13 76.744000 >> 14 76.321000 >> 15 77.298000 >> 16 77.679000 >> 17 77.708000 >> 18 77.148000 >> 19 76.640000 >> 20 76.933000 >> 21 76.857000 >> 22 77.767000 >> 23 77.474000 >> 24 76.867000 >> 25 76.887000 >> 26 77.919000 >> 27 77.812000 >> 28 77.385000 >> 29 77.569000 >> >> >> > >"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:dRdYa.8895$ug.1213@lakeread01:
I didn't think it was mph but laptimes...79.2 would be 1:19.2.
dave henrie
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> Ok, we're all talking times, and this guy posts MPH :) > > -Larry > >> LAP TIME >> 1 79.243000 >For the longest time, I referred to everything in speeds as well.
In article <dRdYa.8895$ug.1213@lakeread01>, [email hidden] says...
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> Ok, we're all talking times, and this guy posts MPH :) > > -Larry > > "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3f30fed9$0$28118$[email hidden]... > > Just did a solo tyre run off line. Managed 29 laps, with f/l down to 25% > > rears at 50%. not fast times. Real easy on the brakes though. Under > race > > conditions, I expect a little more tyre wear... > > So if you take it easy, you should be in good shape to have a hard run > at > > the end with a top up of fuel and fresh tires. > > > > Steve > > > > LAP TIME > > 1 79.243000 > > 2 77.156000 > > 3 77.022000 > > 4 77.078000 > > 5 76.326000 > > 6 77.055000 > > 7 76.369000 > > 8 76.701000 > > 9 77.520000 > > 10 76.669000 > > 11 77.054000 > > 12 76.733000 > > 13 76.744000 > > 14 76.321000 > > 15 77.298000 > > 16 77.679000 > > 17 77.708000 > > 18 77.148000 > > 19 76.640000 > > 20 76.933000 > > 21 76.857000 > > 22 77.767000 > > 23 77.474000 > > 24 76.867000 > > 25 76.887000 > > 26 77.919000 > > 27 77.812000 > > 28 77.385000 > > 29 77.569000 > > > > > > > > >"Dave Henrie" wrote...
> > <snip>
> I didn't think it was mph but laptimes...79.2 would
> be 1:19.2.
I think Larry was ribbing Steve by taking the laptimes as lap speed, thus
suggesting he's some 35mph off the pace.
Jan.
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"grub" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Guys, post your times.
>
> The best ive done so far is 1:17.50 during a race. Avg about 1.18-1.19.
>
> grub
I have been able to lower my times with a few laps of practice this week. I
think I am still leaving a lot on the track though. I just raced a 14 lap
pickup race online and represented RASCAR well with a flag to flag win. Here
is the replay if you want to see what to expect from me on Saturday. I think
I should be competitive with the non-aliens among us. My fast lap in this
race was a 1:14.6something. I backed off after getting a good lead and
caught some traffic at the end.
http://mysite.verizon.net/res1dja7/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/glen_
8_7_03.zip
Kyle
good one, I'll pay that one. Actually, being australian, if I was posting
speed, I would've converted it to kilometres/hour, just to totally confuse
you all:o)
Steve
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Ok, we're all talking times, and this guy posts MPH :)
>
> -Larry
Did 25 laps last night. Started off in the mid 1:16's, progressed to the
mid-low 1:15's, then towards the end was back to mid-high 1:16's. I guess
that'll do...
-Larry
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Ok, I'm down into the low 1:16's and high 1:15's now, with no assits. > > Well, I do use the driving line to help with braking points :) > > I have no idea how hard I'm being on the car though. Only time will tell. > > And, for me at least, Stability Assist was costing me a second a lap. > > My biggest problem is consistent speeds into that wacko chicane they putQuoted text (19 lines)
> a few years ago, and I still lock up the RF going into 1 too much. > > -Larry > > "McWhom" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > "Neil Charlton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:bgo1nm$hsf$[email hidden]... > > > I can eat 50 eggs ;) > > > > > Ok, so I need to stay AHEAD of you!!! DAmn, what is that smell??? > > > > LOL > > Sean > > > > > >Cool... I stand corrected :)
-Larry
"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:dRdYa.8895$ug.1213@lakeread01: > > > Ok, we're all talking times, and this guy posts MPH :) > > > > -Larry > > > >> LAP TIME > >> 1 79.243000 > > > I didn't think it was mph but laptimes...79.2 would be 1:19.2. > > dave henrieYeah, yeah... That's the ticket!
:)
Larry
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Dave Henrie" wrote... > I think Larry was ribbing Steve by taking the laptimes as lap speed, thus > suggesting he's some 35mph off the pace. > > Jan. > =--- > >So did I until RASCAR.
-Larry
"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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25%
> > > rears at 50%. not fast times. Real easy on the brakes though. Under
> > race
> > > conditions, I expect a little more tyre wear...
> > > So if you take it easy, you should be in good shape to have a hardrun
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> For the longest time, I referred to everything in speeds as well. > > In article <dRdYa.8895$ug.1213@lakeread01>, [email hidden] says... > > Ok, we're all talking times, and this guy posts MPH :) > > > > -Larry > > > > "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:3f30fed9$0$28118$[email hidden]... > > > Just did a solo tyre run off line. Managed 29 laps, with f/l down toQuoted text (41 lines)
> > at > > > the end with a top up of fuel and fresh tires. > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > LAP TIME > > > 1 79.243000 > > > 2 77.156000 > > > 3 77.022000 > > > 4 77.078000 > > > 5 76.326000 > > > 6 77.055000 > > > 7 76.369000 > > > 8 76.701000 > > > 9 77.520000 > > > 10 76.669000 > > > 11 77.054000 > > > 12 76.733000 > > > 13 76.744000 > > > 14 76.321000 > > > 15 77.298000 > > > 16 77.679000 > > > 17 77.708000 > > > 18 77.148000 > > > 19 76.640000 > > > 20 76.933000 > > > 21 76.857000 > > > 22 77.767000 > > > 23 77.474000 > > > 24 76.867000 > > > 25 76.887000 > > > 26 77.919000 > > > 27 77.812000 > > > 28 77.385000 > > > 29 77.569000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 21:39:04 GMT, John Simmons <[email hidden]> wrote:
>For the longest time, I referred to everything in speeds as well.
I did also but Time is really a better way to measure a lap. I like
to know how many tenths off I am... speeds mean nothing to me now.
Someone says they turned 190mph at Atlanta and I have no idea if that
is good or bad.
What bugs me is that in TV broadcasts for NASCAR they use speeds as
well... I want to see lap times.
Brian Oster
This course is pissing me off. After running 1:10 and 1:11, I just can's
seem to get it below 1:9. And, my tires are toast after 40 laps. I quit!!
grub
"Kyle Roberts" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I
> think I am still leaving a lot on the track though. I just raced a 14 lap
> pickup race online and represented RASCAR well with a flag to flag win.Here
> is the replay if you want to see what to expect from me on Saturday. Ithink
> I should be competitive with the non-aliens among us. My fast lap in this
> race was a 1:14.6something. I backed off after getting a good lead and
> caught some traffic at the end.
>
>http://mysite.verizon.net/res1dja7/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/glen_
> 8_7_03.zip
>
> Kyle
>
>
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> > "grub" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Guys, post your times. > > > > The best ive done so far is 1:17.50 during a race. Avg about 1.18-1.19. > > > > grub > > I have been able to lower my times with a few laps of practice this week.
"grub" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> This course is pissing me off. After running 1:10 and 1:11, I just can's
> seem to get it below 1:9. And, my tires are toast after 40 laps. I quit!!
>
> grub
Grub, I think i had a dream where you called me on the phone. weird.
I did.
grub twight-zone bat
"frederickson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
> "grub" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > This course is pissing me off. After running 1:10 and 1:11, I just can's
> > seem to get it below 1:9. And, my tires are toast after 40 laps. Iquit!!
