Watkins Glen (long) version for NASCAR Racing N2003...at The Pits

Chris Squire has completed something that's been asked about since NASCAR Racing 1...if sim racers would ever get a version of Watkins Glen with the boot. Well, now you can...go to our Sim Downloads > NASCAR Racing > Tracks section! And if you'd like to thank Chris or tell us of any problems with the track, please send him some feedback from our feedback page! (especially since our forums still seem to be hosed up). Cheers! �� Jan Kohl ::: computer security consultant ::: the pits - http://www.theuspits.com castle graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com

woohoo, 1970 Grand National Mod sounds great too! "Jan Kohl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Tda7b.14748$[email hidden]... > Chris Squire has completed something that's been asked about since NASCARRacing 1...if sim racers would ever get a version of > Watkins Glen with the boot. > > Well, now you can...go to our Sim Downloads > NASCAR Racing > Trackssection! > And if you'd like to thank Chris or tell us of any problems with thetrack, please send him some feedback from our feedback

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> page! (especially since our forums still seem to be hosed up). > > Cheers! > > �� Jan Kohl > > ::: computer security consultant ::: > the pits - http://www.theuspits.com > castle graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com > > >

Thanks, Jan. Downloaded and now about to give it a spin. :) Bruce. "Jan Kohl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Tda7b.14748$[email hidden]... > Chris Squire has completed something that's been asked about since NASCARRacing 1...if sim racers would ever get a version of Watkins Glen with the boot.

What a great track and so-o-o-o much more drivable than the modern version. Why was the circuit shortened from this arrangement; it's a far better driver's track? Bruce.

"Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:3f5dade3$[email hidden]:

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> What a great track and so-o-o-o much more drivable than the modern > version. Why was the circuit shortened from this arrangement; it's a > far better driver's track? > > Bruce. > > >

nascar

?? Its still there and certain series still race it "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:3f5dade3$[email hidden]: > > > What a great track and so-o-o-o much more drivable than the modern > > version. Why was the circuit shortened from this arrangement; it's a > > far better driver's track? > > > > Bruce. > > > > > > > > nascar

On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 20:39:09 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote: >What a great track and so-o-o-o much more drivable than the modern version. >Why was the circuit shortened from this arrangement; it's a far better >driver's track? > >Bruce. >I think you answered your own question. The drivers as a group dislike road courses, adding more turns just makes it worse. (But I LOVE it!!) Me, I dislike 1 1/2 mile generic ovals most.

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:3f5dade3$[email hidden]: > > > What a great track and so-o-o-o much more drivable than the modern > > version. Why was the circuit shortened from this arrangement; it's a > > far better driver's track? > > > > Bruce. > > > > > > > > nascar

The same reason Sears Point was butchered... -- don ------------------------------------- BAPOM Alternative Program Covers for GPL http://www.trilon.com/bapom/

In article <Tda7b.14748$[email hidden]>, "Jan Kohl" <[email hidden]> writes: >Chris Squire has completed something that's been asked about since NASCAR >Racing 1...if sim racers would ever get a version of >Watkins Glen with the boot. Chris Squire gave up music...? :-) Eldred -- "A voice from the crowd: Right, everyone out of my garden. I've had enough of this!" Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank -2.4 N2k3 rank ? Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Cliff, I was at The Glen this weekend for the Grand Prix Festival and yes, they still use this section for all races, except during Nascar weekend. Joe "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:05k7b.405955$uu5.74127@sccrnsc04...

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> ?? > > Its still there and certain series still race it > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in > > news:3f5dade3$[email hidden]: > > > > > What a great track and so-o-o-o much more drivable than the modern > > > version. Why was the circuit shortened from this arrangement; it's a > > > far better driver's track? > > > > > > Bruce. > > > > > > > > > > > > > nascar > >

I do not understand this.. The Glen was not butchered.. the whole track is there. NASCAR only uses part of it, how is that butchering the track?? You guys are acting like they threw part of the track away, its still there for use for any series that wants to use it "Don Hodgdon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:l6s7b.5550$[email hidden]...

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> > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in > > news:3f5dade3$[email hidden]: > > > > > What a great track and so-o-o-o much more drivable than the modern > > > version. Why was the circuit shortened from this arrangement; it's a > > > far better driver's track? > > > > > > Bruce. > > > > > > > > > > > > > nascar > > The same reason Sears Point was butchered... > > > -- > don > > ------------------------------------- > BAPOM > Alternative Program Covers for GPL > http://www.trilon.com/bapom/ > >

I know.. that is why I do not understand this "NASCAR killed The Glen" stuff Its still there, any series can use it.. "Joe Reed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:rps7b.46525$[email hidden]...

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> Cliff, > > I was at The Glen this weekend for the Grand Prix Festival and yes, they > still use this section for all races, except during Nascar weekend. > > Joe > > "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:05k7b.405955$uu5.74127@sccrnsc04... > > ?? > > > > Its still there and certain series still race it > > > > > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in > > > news:3f5dade3$[email hidden]: > > > > > > > What a great track and so-o-o-o much more drivable than the modern > > > > version. Why was the circuit shortened from this arrangement; it's a > > > > far better driver's track? > > > > > > > > Bruce. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nascar > > > > > >

"Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:eFt7b.16139$[email hidden]: > I know.. that is why I do not understand this "NASCAR killed The Glen" > stuff > > Its still there, any series can use it.. > > Several of the Sportscar series including, interestingly enough, the Nascar-partnered Grand American Sportcar (rolex24hr) series.

Now if somebody will do a No (Inner) Loop for the new Boot (Long) Glen, I'll be wreathed in smiles.... "Jan Kohl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Tda7b.14748$[email hidden]... > Chris Squire has completed something that's been asked about since NASCARRacing 1...if sim racers would ever get a version of > Watkins Glen with the boot. > > Well, now you can...go to our Sim Downloads > NASCAR Racing > Trackssection! > And if you'd like to thank Chris or tell us of any problems with thetrack, please send him some feedback from our feedback

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> page! (especially since our forums still seem to be hosed up). > > Cheers! > > �� Jan Kohl > > ::: computer security consultant ::: > the pits - http://www.theuspits.com > castle graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com > > >

Now if somebody will do a No (Inner) Loop for the new Boot (Long) Glen, I'll be wreathed in smiles.... Racing 1...if sim racers would ever get a version of track, please send him some feedback from our feedback

I have watched quite a few different series run the Glen and Sears Point on Speed and NASCAR is the only one that I have seen that runs short versions of those two tracks. Grand-Am, Trans-Am, ALMS, SCCA Touring, etc. all run the longer versions. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Several of the Sportscar series including, interestingly enough, the > Nascar-partnered Grand American Sportcar (rolex24hr) series. >

Aaah! Well, that's something of which I was unaware, Cliff. Thanks for the info. Incidentally, my compliments to the bloke who created this version for NASCAR 2003 too - he's done a fine job, in my opinion. Bruce. "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:05k7b.405955$uu5.74127@sccrnsc04... > Its still there and certain series still race it

Me three!!!!!!! Marc "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:tHv7b.46741$[email hidden]... > Now if somebody will do a No (Inner) Loop for the new Boot (Long) Glen,I'll > be wreathed in smiles.... > > "Jan Kohl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Tda7b.14748$[email hidden]... > > Chris Squire has completed something that's been asked about sinceNASCAR

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> Racing 1...if sim racers would ever get a version of > > Watkins Glen with the boot. > > > > Well, now you can...go to our Sim Downloads > NASCAR Racing > Tracks > section! > > And if you'd like to thank Chris or tell us of any problems with the > track, please send him some feedback from our feedback > > page! (especially since our forums still seem to be hosed up). > > > > Cheers! > > > > �� Jan Kohl > > > > ::: computer security consultant ::: > > the pits - http://www.theuspits.com > > castle graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com > > > > > > > >

> Chris Squire gave up music...? :-) Whoa, whoa, Eldred, Ouch! Don't even kid about that! That would break my heart. ;) Sorry, I couldn't resist. Heehee... >;) Pete Panaia A seasoned witch could call you from the depths of your disgrace, And rearrange your liver to the solid mental grace... (Close To The Edge - YES)

Do you think Nascar doesn't use the long version because that part of the track is so visible from the public road (like from pickup trucks or your car's roof)? Despite the fact that parking there is prohibited, I'd expect quite a few people to watch races from there, as there's plenty of room for parking the car? Achim "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:tHv7b.46741$[email hidden]... > Now if somebody will do a No (Inner) Loop for the new Boot (Long) Glen,I'll > be wreathed in smiles...

Nah, I doubt it From what I understand, you can see alot of Sears Point like that also.. (I could be wrong) "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:bjmifl$kbrud$[email hidden]... > Do you think Nascar doesn't use the long version because that part of the > track is so visible from the public road (like from pickup trucks or your > car's roof)? Despite the fact that parking there is prohibited, I'd expect > quite a few people to watch races from there, as there's plenty of roomfor

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> parking the car? > > Achim > > > "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:tHv7b.46741$[email hidden]... > > Now if somebody will do a No (Inner) Loop for the new Boot (Long) Glen, > I'll > > be wreathed in smiles... > >

On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 23:43:53 GMT, "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I do not understand this.. > >The Glen was not butchered.. the whole track is there. NASCAR only uses >part of it, how is that butchering the track?? > >You guys are acting like they threw part of the track away, its still there >for use for any series that wants to use it > >

The biggest change between the GPL version and today's is the second-to-last turn (left hander) is much tighter than it was before. And the pits have moved/been changed since then... JD

In article <o2y7b.23025$[email hidden]>, "Pete Panaia" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>> Chris Squire gave up music...? :-) > >Whoa, whoa, Eldred, >Ouch! Don't even kid about that! >That would break my heart. ;) > >Sorry, I couldn't resist. Heehee... >;) > >Pete Panaia > >A seasoned witch could call you from the depths of your disgrace, >And rearrange your liver to the solid mental grace... >(Close To The Edge - YES)

</me flips to that song in my mp3 playlist> My current favorite Yessong is Siberian Khatru, though. :-) I've seen Yes at least twice(maybe 3 times). Great shows. I just need to practice more so I can play as well as Chris Squire...<g> Eldred -- "A voice from the crowd: Right, everyone out of my garden. I've had enough of this!" Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank -2.4 N2k3 rank ? Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.