RASCAR: New Hampshire race...

What a race! :-) Well all right... we still got a some way to go in therms of yellows... but I really do see some progress being made :-) Unfortunatly I was'nt able to save replay nor results so I dont have the ecaxt results at hand.... but I think we had 10 cautions - including the one in the last corner... I had a very good race - although I should have had a better result as the �"##& sim f****d up and gave me a "bogus black flag"; Unfortunatly I messed up and exceeded the pitspeed during a stop.... I was trying real hard to get out into the lead again... - too hard actually, as I got BF for speeding. Anyway, that was not a big deal to me... I went to the end of the longest line and waited...And that's when the shit hit the fan... Suddenly my spotter tells me to let "the 99 car go by"... only problem was that the 99 car *was* ahead of me.... not only that he was 3 laps down too... So whitout no hope of getting it clearded I got a BF and had to stop - twice - 'cause the sim goofed up and started working on my car... In the end I goofed up again and speed once again... and before I knew it... I was 3 laps down.. :-/ I tried my best to grab them back without ruining anyone's race.. and with some co-operation from the leaders I slowly managed to crawl my way back up the field... By lap 100 of the 120 I was back on the lead lap... And with fresh tired on the last green - I tried my best to get into the top 5 - having an awesome fight with Jurjen, Bluestringer and Larry. I just drove the hell out of the car trying my best to get by any of them - with out screwing up... but those guys put on a real hard clean fight and in the end I had to settle for 7th or 8th I think... I was passed Bluestinger at one point too.... but he fought back and got by me then very next lap... Toward the end of the 17 lap stint my RF-was really gone and I had a big push out of 2 and 4. Even though the evening didn't go quite as planned....I had a great time... I had a lousy start of the evening too... as my throttle spring broke prior to the race... and I had to install a new one.... I just managed to make it... having to drop qual in order to get things in order... In all the fuzz and cuzz... I even forgot what key to press in 'TS' too - so I had a hard time trying to talk to the others.... I must have been going "hallo" for the first 30 laps or so - testing every key on my keyboard... LOL! Anyway... con'grats to Neil for winning and to everybody else for finishing. Oh - sorry Uwe - I really didnt mean to screw up on that re-start... I wasn't expecting you to slow that early - although I should seen it coming. I got a good start and Don got a poor one so I went low to get by him.. I hope we can get some rules to avoid things like that in the future... nontheless... *my bad*. -- ed_ http://rascar.racesimcentral.com ----------------------------------------------- $10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC

I'm so glad that you apologized to Uwe for putting me out of the race when I was leading, Ed. A simple rule would be: Don't f**king run into cars that are ahead of you, no matter how goddam eager you are to get into the lead in the first corner of a restart. How about that one? We (Uwe and myself) were two abreast going into the first corner of a restart. That means you cannot pass there and have to slow down - how difficult is that to understand? Does it take a rule? Don D in KC, someone who didn't finish, and didn't even get the courtesy of an apology. "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:3f63a8cd$[email hidden]:

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> > Anyway... con'grats to Neil for winning and to everybody else for > finishing. > > Oh - sorry Uwe - I really didnt mean to screw up on that re-start... > I wasn't expecting you to slow that early - although I should seen it > coming. I got a good start and Don got a poor one so I went low to get > by him.. I hope we can get some rules to avoid things like that in the > future... nontheless... *my bad*. > >

Track: NEW HAMPSHIRE INTERNATIONAL SPEEDWAY Date: 09/13/03 Session: Practice P # DRIVER TIME 1 27 BOster 30.470 2 103 JurjenvanderLelij 30.516 3 19 DaveGF 30.583 4 83 grubbat 30.586 5 96 Neil__C 30.691 6 98 LTB-Racer 30.714 7 99 Elrikk 30.769 8 86 86_k_roberts 30.772 9 7 Dick-Trickle 30.794 10 42 bluestringer 30.843 11 1 Mitch_A 30.875 12 39 jsterner 30.921 13 67 UweSchuerkamp 30.971 14 9 studmonkey 30.994 15 17 j_verschue_RAS 31.013 16 04 DDodge 31.111 17 92 steve whitty 31.533 18 170 joonjoonli 32.332 Weather: Clear, 70 �F, North 0 mph Session: Qualifying P # DRIVER TIME 1 7 Dick-Trickle 30.568 2 103 JurjenvanderLelij 30.593 3 27 BOster 30.763 4 99 Elrikk 30.779 5 96 Neil__C 30.794 6 83 grubbat 30.835 7 98 LTB-Racer 30.864 8 17 j_verschue_RAS 30.889 9 19 DaveGF 30.916 10 42 bluestringer 30.939 11 86 86_k_roberts 31.013 12 67 UweSchuerkamp 31.253 13 04 DDodge 31.353 14 92 steve whitty 31.398 15 39 jsterner 31.583 16 1 Mitch_A 32.033 17 5 Ed Solheim -- 18 170 joonjoonli -- 19 9 studmonkey -- Weather: Clear, 70 �F, North 0 mph Session: Happy Hour P # DRIVER TIME 1 103 JurjenvanderLelij 30.600 2 83 grubbat 30.601 3 98 LTB-Racer 30.706 4 42 bluestringer 30.829 5 17 j_verschue_RAS 30.880 6 96 Neil__C 30.911 7 86 86_k_roberts 30.931 8 1 Mitch_A 31.016 9 99 Elrikk 31.115 10 7 Dick-Trickle 31.223 11 92 steve whitty 31.339 12 04 DDodge 31.462 13 39 jsterner 31.635 14 67 UweSchuerkamp 32.010 15 170 joonjoonli 32.222 16 27 BOster 52.739 Weather: Clear, 70 �F, North 0 mph Session: Race OFFICIAL STANDINGS F S # DRIVER INTERVAL LAPS LED POINTS STATUS 1 5 96 Neil__C 83.315 120 35* 185 Running 2 1 7 Dick-Trickle -0.16 120 8 175 Running 3 11 86 86_k_roberts -1.63 120 0 165 Running 4 9 19 DaveGF -6.01 120 0 160 Running 5 2 103 JurjenvanderLelij -6.61 120 5 160 Running 6 10 42 bluestringer -6.99 120 25 155 Running 7 17 5 Ed Solheim -7.19 120 15 151 Running 8 7 98 LTB-Racer -10.01 120 0 142 Running 9 8 17 j_verschue_RAS -10.54 120 0 138 Running 10 16 1 Mitch_A -16.26 120 22 139 Running 11 14 92 steve whitty -17.91 120 0 130 Running 12 6 83 grubbat -1L 119 0 127 Running 13 4 99 Elrikk -3L 117 0 124 Running 14 15 39 jsterner -6L 114 0 121 Running 15 13 04 DDodge -87L 33 4 123 Accident 16 3 27 BOster -88L 32 6 120 Retired 17 12 67 UweSchuerkamp -89L 31 0 112 Retired 18 18 170 joonjoonli -105L 15 0 109 Disco Caution Flags: 12 (45 laps) Lead Changes: 8 (8 drivers) Weather: Clear, 70 �F, North 0 mph Pitstop Frequency: 1x PENALTIES LAP # INFRACTION PENALTY 14 99 Entering closed pits Go to end of longest line 19 67 Entering closed pits Go to end of longest line 30 83 Unsafe pit exit Go to end of longest line 34 04 Entering closed pits Go to end of longest line 46 99 Entering closed pits Go to end of longest line 48 5 Speeding in pits Go to end of longest line 48 5 Unsafe pit exit Go to end of longest line 50 5 Passing under yellow Held for 45 seconds 54 5 Speeding in pits Drive through pit lane 73 99 Entering closed pits Go to end of longest line 77 19 Unsafe pit exit Go to end of longest line 101 39 Failure to pit Go to end of longest line 101 39 Passing under yellow Held for 4 seconds 121 83 Passing under yellow Held for 1 seconds David G Fisher "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3f63a8cd$[email hidden]... > What a race! :-) > > Well all right... we still got a some way to go in therms of yellows...but

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> I really do see some progress being made :-) > Unfortunatly I was'nt able to save replay nor results so I dont have the > ecaxt results at hand.... but I think we had 10 cautions - including the > one in the last corner... > > I had a very good race - although I should have had a better result as the > �"##& sim f****d up and gave me a "bogus black flag"; Unfortunatly I > messed up and exceeded the pitspeed during a stop.... I was trying real > hard to get out into the lead again... - too hard actually, as I got BF

for > speeding. Anyway, that was not a big deal to me... I went to the end ofthe > longest line and waited...And that's when the shit hit the fan...Suddenly > my spotter tells me to let "the 99 car go by"... only problem was that the > 99 car *was* ahead of me.... not only that he was 3 laps down too... So > whitout no hope of getting it clearded I got a BF and had to stop -twice - > 'cause the sim goofed up and started working on my car... In the end I > goofed up again and speed once again... and before I knew it... I was 3laps > down.. :-/ > > I tried my best to grab them back without ruining anyone's race.. and with > some co-operation from the leaders I slowly managed to crawl my way backup > the field... By lap 100 of the 120 I was back on the lead lap... > And with fresh tired on the last green - I tried my best to get into thetop > 5 - having an awesome fight with Jurjen, Bluestringer and Larry. I just > drove the hell out of the car trying my best to get by any of them - with > out screwing up... but those guys put on a real hard clean fight and in > the end I had to settle for 7th or 8th I think... > I was passed Bluestinger at one point too.... but he fought back and gotby > me then very next lap... Toward the end of the 17 lap stint my RF-was > really gone and I had a big push out of 2 and 4. > > Even though the evening didn't go quite as planned....I had a greattime... > I had a lousy start of the evening too... as my throttle spring brokeprior > to the race... and I had to install a new one.... I just managed to make > it... having to drop qual in order to get things in order... > > In all the fuzz and cuzz... I even forgot what key to press in 'TS' too -so > I had a hard time trying to talk to the others.... I must have been going > "hallo" for the first 30 laps or so - testing every key on my keyboard... > LOL! > > Anyway... con'grats to Neil for winning and to everybody else forfinishing. > > Oh - sorry Uwe - I really didnt mean to screw up on that re-start... I > wasn't expecting you to slow that early - although I should seen itcoming.

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> I got a good start and Don got a poor one so I went low to get by him.. > I hope we can get some rules to avoid things like that in the future... > nontheless... *my bad*. > > > -- > ed_ > http://rascar.racesimcentral.com > ----------------------------------------------- > $10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC > > > > > >

Uwe slowed down wayyyyyy early going into the corner. Heck, he was still on the straight when he slowed down, not even to the lights or the 3 marker. I don't think Ed was at fault there. I punted Jerry(#39) in the same corner when we tried to slow for Uwe. Kyle "Don Dodge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I'm so glad that you apologized to Uwe for putting me out of the race > when I was leading, Ed. A simple rule would be: Don't f**king run into > cars that are ahead of you, no matter how goddam eager you are to get > into the lead in the first corner of a restart. How about that one? > > We (Uwe and myself) were two abreast going into the first corner of a > restart. That means you cannot pass there and have to slow down - how > difficult is that to understand? Does it take a rule? > > > Don D in KC, someone who didn't finish, and didn't even get the > courtesy of an apology. > > > > "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:3f63a8cd$[email hidden]: > > > > Anyway... con'grats to Neil for winning and to everybody else for > > finishing. > > > > Oh - sorry Uwe - I really didnt mean to screw up on that re-start... > > I wasn't expecting you to slow that early - although I should seen it > > coming. I got a good start and Don got a poor one so I went low to get > > by him.. I hope we can get some rules to avoid things like that in the > > future... nontheless... *my bad*. > > > > >

"Don Dodge" said: > Don D in KC, someone who didn't finish, and didn't even get the > courtesy of an apology. Sorry Don - I had no idea you were taken out aswell. I have no replay of the race so I dont know what happend or who got caught in it. If my actions caused your retirement... I'm very sorry. I screwed by misjudging Uwe's braking point and gave him what looked like a "tap" in *my end*, I knew I'd made a fool of myself, but I had no idea who got caught in it. Again - I'm sorry. -- ed_ http://rascar.racesimcentral.com ----------------------------------------------- $10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC > > > > "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:3f63a8cd$[email hidden]: > > > > Anyway... con'grats to Neil for winning and to everybody else for > > finishing. > > > > Oh - sorry Uwe - I really didnt mean to screw up on that re-start... > > I wasn't expecting you to slow that early - although I should seen it > > coming. I got a good start and Don got a poor one so I went low to get > > by him.. I hope we can get some rules to avoid things like that in the > > future... nontheless... *my bad*. > > > > >

"Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3f63a8cd$[email hidden]... > What a race! :-) <snip> > Suddenly > my spotter tells me to let "the 99 car go by"... only problem was that the > 99 car *was* ahead of me.... not only that he was 3 laps down too... So > whitout no hope of getting it clearded I got a BF and had to stop -twice - > 'cause the sim goofed up and started working on my car... In the end I > goofed up again and speed once again... and before I knew it... I was 3laps > down.. :-/ <snip> > -- > ed_ I was bumped in a corner (not sure if it was my fault, [I may have moved down]) and spun lightly towards the wall; but right at impact the game did a CTD. I quickly restarted the game and rejoined the server. I got out of the pits before the yellow laps were complete and that is when the incident Ed describes above occurs. My spotter is yelling at me to pass Ed, who as we all know is right behind me. My position list in the race doesn't show any laps down so I just figure the game has become fuddled. Then with one lap until green my spotter says I'm not on the lead lap and to head up the inside line. Other then my spotter telling me to head to the inside line on subsequent restarts after yellows I never got any other indication of being laps down for the rest of the race. My position list never corrected so I had no idea of how many laps down I might be. Other then this confusion I actually enjoyed much of the day. ;o) Elrrikk PS. I didn't save the replay (because of the CTD earlier) but will download it when posted on the web site. Will make all due apologies then. ;o)

> We (Uwe and myself) were two abreast going into the first corner of a > restart. That means you cannot pass there and have to slow down - how > difficult is that to understand? Does it take a rule? > Thats sounds very similar to my incident with Jerry Sterner, 100% my fault, very sorry Jerry and all those behind that got involved. Cheers Ginger

Accepted, Ed. I was really upset, as I had just inherited the lead for the first time and didn't even make the first corner of the first green flag lap before being taken out. Don D

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> Sorry Don - I had no idea you were taken out aswell. > I have no replay of the race so I dont know what happend or who got > caught in it. > > If my actions caused your retirement... I'm very sorry. > > I screwed by misjudging Uwe's braking point and gave him what looked > like a "tap" in *my end*, I knew I'd made a fool of myself, but I had > no idea who got caught in it. > > Again - I'm sorry. > >

The car ahead of you has no obligation whatever to go into a corner the way you want them to - It's your responsibility not to hit them, plain and simple, as Ed himself admitted. If Uwe, in this instance, didn't want to race to get his lap or laps back, that's his decision and needn't be punished with being taken out of the race. In addition, restarts are always dangerous and one has to be extra careful. Don D > Uwe slowed down wayyyyyy early going into the corner. Heck, he was > still on the straight when he slowed down, not even to the lights or > the 3 marker. I don't think Ed was at fault there. I punted Jerry(#39) > in the same corner when we tried to slow for Uwe. > > Kyle

Despite the yellows i had a great race. I especially enjoyed passing bluestringer on the outside, running 2 laps side by side. Great racing bluestringer :-) My apologies to Jerry Sterner for the punt in T3, *and* for me foolishly going 3 wide on the backstretch causing me to hit you in the side :(

"elrikk" said: > My spotter is yelling at me to pass Ed, who as we all know is right behind > me. My position list in the race doesn't show any laps down so I just > figure the game has become fuddled. Then with one lap until green my > spotter says I'm not on the lead lap and to head up the inside line.Other > then my spotter telling me to head to the inside line on subsequentrestarts > after yellows I never got any other indication of being laps down for the > rest of the race. My position list never corrected so I had no idea ofhow > many laps down I might be. I have a sneaky feeling that you should have passed the whole field and then passed me too, but I'm not quite sure. Without a replay it's hard to judge what went wrong. -- ed_

"JLe" said: > Despite the yellows i had a great race. I especially enjoyed passing > bluestringer on the outside, running 2 laps side by side. Great racing > bluestringer :-) Hehe.... I did the exact same thing - I think! :-) I most certainly passed one or two cars on the outside of a corner, but I'm not 1000000% certain that Bluestringer was one of them... --- I think so but I'm not completely certain that a fact. Good racing anyway! -- ed_

I think this is good example of why my strategy on restarts works. If I'm on the lead lap, run wide at turn 1 and let them through. On cold tyres on a restart, early in the race, I'm not going to fight for position. Late in the race, I've been leaving the door open, but not as much as early in the race. Having said that, now that you guys have had a few races to get a look at my driving and me at yours, I may start to fight for position a bit more. Steve "Don Dodge" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I'm so glad that you apologized to Uwe for putting me out of the race > when I was leading, Ed. A simple rule would be: Don't f**king run into > cars that are ahead of you, no matter how goddam eager you are to get > into the lead in the first corner of a restart. How about that one? > > We (Uwe and myself) were two abreast going into the first corner of a > restart. That means you cannot pass there and have to slow down - how > difficult is that to understand? Does it take a rule? > > > Don D in KC, someone who didn't finish, and didn't even get the > courtesy of an apology. > > > > "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:3f63a8cd$[email hidden]: > > > > Anyway... con'grats to Neil for winning and to everybody else for > > finishing. > > > > Oh - sorry Uwe - I really didnt mean to screw up on that re-start... > > I wasn't expecting you to slow that early - although I should seen it > > coming. I got a good start and Don got a poor one so I went low to get > > by him.. I hope we can get some rules to avoid things like that in the > > future... nontheless... *my bad*. > > > > >

Twelve cautions for 45 laps is "good racing"? Maybe I have to adjust my definition of both "good" and "racing"...

Well, since I didn't save the replay either, I dont know who to thank, who to call to the carpet, or who to blame my mistakes on. I will say this though, thanks to all you nuts who used the grubbat dodge as a puntee. I will never again post "damaged and off pace" because its like an open season to pass/punt. The divebombing was terrible, even on the lapped cars, the apparent blocking at the start of the race was just naughty, and the cars that were lapped down and racing for postion was just smelly. Several times it appeared to me the driver in front of me was breakchecking in the middle of a turn which required me to slam on the brakes. I had a good run at the beginning and enjoyed the passing and manuvering. That was fun and it required very good driving skills and a keen situational awareness of the racing enviroment. (pardon me while i pat the grub on the back). All of this gentlemanship apparently ended after the first caution. :( As usual, all is well as I am fixing the grubat dodge and getting ready for the next race. The best way to fix all of these things mentioned above is just to be faster, more consistant than the other guy and then I wont have to worry about anything......except for divebombing. grubby

"John Simmons" said: > Twelve cautions for 45 laps is "good racing"? 12 caution makes a pretty lousy *race* but, that dosn't mean that all the *racing* have to suck... I saw some really good racing last night and that was what I commented on. Yes.. far to many cautions.... but ironicly I needed quite a few of them last night :-) -- ed_

"JLe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Despite the yellows i had a great race. I especially enjoyed passing > bluestringer on the outside, running 2 laps side by side. Great racing > bluestringer :-) > My apologies to Jerry Sterner for the punt in T3, *and* for me foolishly > going 3 wide on the backstretch causing me to hit you in the side :( Even with the 12 cautions it was a very enjoyable race. Lots of good side by side clean racing. I got into some great battles with serveral drivers. bluestringer

"grub" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Well, since I didn't save the replay either, I dont know who to thank, > who to call to the carpet, or who to blame my mistakes on. I will say this > though, thanks to all you nuts who used the grubbat dodge as a puntee. I > will never again post "damaged and off pace" because its like an open > season to pass/punt. The divebombing was terrible, even on the lappedcars, > the apparent blocking at the start of the race was just naughty, and the > cars that were lapped down and racing for postion was just smelly. Several > times it appeared to me the driver in front of me was breakchecking in the > middle of a turn which required me to slam on the brakes. > I had a good run at the beginning and enjoyed the passing and > manuvering. That was fun and it required very good driving skills and akeen > situational awareness of the racing enviroment. (pardon me while i pat the > grub on the back). All of this gentlemanship apparently ended after the > first caution. :( > As usual, all is well as I am fixing the grubat dodge and gettingready

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> for the next race. The best way to fix all of these things mentioned above > is just to be faster, more consistant than the other guy and then I wont > have to worry about anything......except for divebombing. > > grubby > > > > >

Nice little demolition derby in the pits after the race Grub. :-) bluestringer

> Twelve cautions for 45 laps is "good racing"? > > Maybe I have to adjust my definition of both "good" and "racing"... Bitter and twisted ?

Things started great. We had a good run at the start and things spread out pretty good. After the first caution though things went south pretty quick. AS we all know cautions breed cautions. Beyond a few too many yellows it was a really fun race. I witnessed quite a bit of give n take throughout the race. There were a couple pretty ugly wrecks (racin deals) but overall things really werent to bad. We ALL still need to focus a little better and maybe a tad more give n take early in the race. I'd like to see some green flag pit stops personally. Overall Id say guys are showing more respect to fellow competitors. This is what we need to reduce yellow laps plain and simple. Mitch "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3f63a8cd$[email hidden]... > What a race! :-) > > Well all right... we still got a some way to go in therms of yellows...but

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> I really do see some progress being made :-) > Unfortunatly I was'nt able to save replay nor results so I dont have the > ecaxt results at hand.... but I think we had 10 cautions - including the > one in the last corner... > > I had a very good race - although I should have had a better result as the > �"##& sim f****d up and gave me a "bogus black flag"; Unfortunatly I > messed up and exceeded the pitspeed during a stop.... I was trying real > hard to get out into the lead again... - too hard actually, as I got BF

for > speeding. Anyway, that was not a big deal to me... I went to the end ofthe > longest line and waited...And that's when the shit hit the fan...Suddenly > my spotter tells me to let "the 99 car go by"... only problem was that the > 99 car *was* ahead of me.... not only that he was 3 laps down too... So > whitout no hope of getting it clearded I got a BF and had to stop -twice - > 'cause the sim goofed up and started working on my car... In the end I > goofed up again and speed once again... and before I knew it... I was 3laps > down.. :-/ > > I tried my best to grab them back without ruining anyone's race.. and with > some co-operation from the leaders I slowly managed to crawl my way backup > the field... By lap 100 of the 120 I was back on the lead lap... > And with fresh tired on the last green - I tried my best to get into thetop > 5 - having an awesome fight with Jurjen, Bluestringer and Larry. I just > drove the hell out of the car trying my best to get by any of them - with > out screwing up... but those guys put on a real hard clean fight and in > the end I had to settle for 7th or 8th I think... > I was passed Bluestinger at one point too.... but he fought back and gotby > me then very next lap... Toward the end of the 17 lap stint my RF-was > really gone and I had a big push out of 2 and 4. > > Even though the evening didn't go quite as planned....I had a greattime... > I had a lousy start of the evening too... as my throttle spring brokeprior > to the race... and I had to install a new one.... I just managed to make > it... having to drop qual in order to get things in order... > > In all the fuzz and cuzz... I even forgot what key to press in 'TS' too -so > I had a hard time trying to talk to the others.... I must have been going > "hallo" for the first 30 laps or so - testing every key on my keyboard... > LOL! > > Anyway... con'grats to Neil for winning and to everybody else forfinishing. > > Oh - sorry Uwe - I really didnt mean to screw up on that re-start... I > wasn't expecting you to slow that early - although I should seen itcoming.

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> I got a good start and Don got a poor one so I went low to get by him.. > I hope we can get some rules to avoid things like that in the future... > nontheless... *my bad*. > > > -- > ed_ > http://rascar.racesimcentral.com > ----------------------------------------------- > $10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC > > > > > > >

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 01:34:51 +0200, Ed Solheim wrote: > Oh - sorry Uwe - I really didnt mean to screw up on that re-start... I > wasn't expecting you to slow that early - although I should seen it coming. NP Ed, I slowed early to leave the faster guys a bit of room on the outside on cold tyres and all that, so well, a racing thing I would guess. cheers, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

just a little therapy. the doctors say that is good for me and I hope to be released very soon. thanks. "bluestringer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:f0_8b.5671$[email hidden]... > > "grub" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Well, since I didn't save the replay either, I dont know who tothank, > > who to call to the carpet, or who to blame my mistakes on. I will saythis > > though, thanks to all you nuts who used the grubbat dodge as a puntee. I > > will never again post "damaged and off pace" because its like an open > > season to pass/punt. The divebombing was terrible, even on the lapped > cars, > > the apparent blocking at the start of the race was just naughty, and the > > cars that were lapped down and racing for postion was just smelly.Several > > times it appeared to me the driver in front of me was breakchecking inthe > > middle of a turn which required me to slam on the brakes. > > I had a good run at the beginning and enjoyed the passing and > > manuvering. That was fun and it required very good driving skills and a > keen > > situational awareness of the racing enviroment. (pardon me while i patthe > > grub on the back). All of this gentlemanship apparently ended after the > > first caution. :( > > As usual, all is well as I am fixing the grubat dodge and getting > ready > > for the next race. The best way to fix all of these things mentionedabove

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> > is just to be faster, more consistant than the other guy and then I wont > > have to worry about anything......except for divebombing. > > > > grubby > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice little demolition derby in the pits after the race Grub. :-) > > bluestringer > >

I've come to HATE this race track. Especially with fixed setups. Like Darlington, I say "Chop it up" :) This thing is basically two drag strips with a U-Turn at each end. Grrrr..... :) Anyway, this certainly wasn't my best performance ever. I punted two cars in one race, and that's more cars than I've hit all year put together (of my own fault, of course). Sorry Bos and Bama. Did anyone else feel like this setup resulted in 'weak' or 'soft' brakes ? Sometimes I was flooring the brake pedal and it felt like I had anti-lock on (I did not) or the pedals were mis-calibrated (they are not). Just didn't seem to have the braking power I'm used to everywhere else. Plus I was driving a brick. I pretty much avoided the first incident, but then someone came through it at high speed and pile-drove me into the wall. Not sure who it was, and it really doesn't matter. My car drove like 'the truck' from that point on. I was still fast, but I had to stop at every yellow and keep the tank completely full to keep weight at the rear to make it liveable. The longer run near the end really hurt me in this regard. Oh, well :) Hey, it's New Hampshire. It's famous for being a tough track. I really don't have any complaints about what went on, save one... For heavens sake folks, CLOSE IT UP when the yellow comes out. I don't remember who it was (and again, I don't care really), but during one yellow there were two cars farting around nearly 1/2 lap away from the next closest car, and they were making NO effort to catch up. I needed to get into the pits, and I couldn't get there in time because of this. Next Race! -Larry "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3f63a8cd$[email hidden]... > What a race! :-) > > Well all right... we still got a some way to go in therms of yellows...but

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> I really do see some progress being made :-) > Unfortunatly I was'nt able to save replay nor results so I dont have the > ecaxt results at hand.... but I think we had 10 cautions - including the > one in the last corner... > > I had a very good race - although I should have had a better result as the > �"##& sim f****d up and gave me a "bogus black flag"; Unfortunatly I > messed up and exceeded the pitspeed during a stop.... I was trying real > hard to get out into the lead again... - too hard actually, as I got BF

for > speeding. Anyway, that was not a big deal to me... I went to the end ofthe > longest line and waited...And that's when the shit hit the fan...Suddenly > my spotter tells me to let "the 99 car go by"... only problem was that the > 99 car *was* ahead of me.... not only that he was 3 laps down too... So > whitout no hope of getting it clearded I got a BF and had to stop -twice - > 'cause the sim goofed up and started working on my car... In the end I > goofed up again and speed once again... and before I knew it... I was 3laps > down.. :-/ > > I tried my best to grab them back without ruining anyone's race.. and with > some co-operation from the leaders I slowly managed to crawl my way backup > the field... By lap 100 of the 120 I was back on the lead lap... > And with fresh tired on the last green - I tried my best to get into thetop > 5 - having an awesome fight with Jurjen, Bluestringer and Larry. I just > drove the hell out of the car trying my best to get by any of them - with > out screwing up... but those guys put on a real hard clean fight and in > the end I had to settle for 7th or 8th I think... > I was passed Bluestinger at one point too.... but he fought back and gotby > me then very next lap... Toward the end of the 17 lap stint my RF-was > really gone and I had a big push out of 2 and 4. > > Even though the evening didn't go quite as planned....I had a greattime... > I had a lousy start of the evening too... as my throttle spring brokeprior > to the race... and I had to install a new one.... I just managed to make > it... having to drop qual in order to get things in order... > > In all the fuzz and cuzz... I even forgot what key to press in 'TS' too -so > I had a hard time trying to talk to the others.... I must have been going > "hallo" for the first 30 laps or so - testing every key on my keyboard... > LOL! > > Anyway... con'grats to Neil for winning and to everybody else forfinishing. > > Oh - sorry Uwe - I really didnt mean to screw up on that re-start... I > wasn't expecting you to slow that early - although I should seen itcoming.

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> I got a good start and Don got a poor one so I went low to get by him.. > I hope we can get some rules to avoid things like that in the future... > nontheless... *my bad*. > > > -- > ed_ > http://rascar.racesimcentral.com > ----------------------------------------------- > $10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC > > > > > >

Yeah, that's another problem at this track. 18 cars, 18 different braking poings :) I spent most of the week nailing down precise braking points so I could run consistent lap times without eating up the tires. I accomplished that, but then had to deal with 17 other drivers with a different idea on where the braking point is :) On the start of the race, Neil broke way, way before I expected anyone would and I was hard on the binders 200 feet before my braking point was even near. I just missed him. That was the one time during the race I think my brakes locked up. From that point on, I couldn't do it if I tried. I'm still confused about that, unless the damage I took on during the first incident (which I had cleared but then got run into the wall) somehow changed the braking characteristics of my car. That, along with my soft brake pedal, got me into trouble a couple of times. -Larry "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3f63d1b4$[email hidden]...

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> "Don Dodge" said: > > > Don D in KC, someone who didn't finish, and didn't even get the > > courtesy of an apology. > > Sorry Don - I had no idea you were taken out aswell. > I have no replay of the race so I dont know what happend or who got caught > in it. > > If my actions caused your retirement... I'm very sorry. > > I screwed by misjudging Uwe's braking point and gave him what looked like

a > "tap" in *my end*, I knew I'd made a fool of myself, but I had no ideawho

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> got caught in it. > > Again - I'm sorry. > > > -- > ed_ > http://rascar.racesimcentral.com > ----------------------------------------------- > $10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in > > news:3f63a8cd$[email hidden]: > > > > > > Anyway... con'grats to Neil for winning and to everybody else for > > > finishing. > > > > > > Oh - sorry Uwe - I really didnt mean to screw up on that re-start... > > > I wasn't expecting you to slow that early - although I should seen it > > > coming. I got a good start and Don got a poor one so I went low to get > > > by him.. I hope we can get some rules to avoid things like that in the > > > future... nontheless... *my bad*. > > > > > > > > > >

The side by side actually was quite good. It was the slowing down part coming to the corner that was a problem for myself and others :) Larry "bluestringer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:g_Z8b.5661$[email hidden]...

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> > "JLe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Despite the yellows i had a great race. I especially enjoyed passing > > bluestringer on the outside, running 2 laps side by side. Great racing > > bluestringer :-) > > My apologies to Jerry Sterner for the punt in T3, *and* for me foolishly > > going 3 wide on the backstretch causing me to hit you in the side :( > > > > Even with the 12 cautions it was a very enjoyable race. Lots of good side

by > side clean racing. I got into some great battles with serveral drivers. > > > bluestringer > >

Yes, that was a nice stress reliever :) Grub owed me a whack anyway :) Larry "bluestringer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:f0_8b.5671$[email hidden]... > > "grub" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Well, since I didn't save the replay either, I dont know who tothank, > > who to call to the carpet, or who to blame my mistakes on. I will saythis > > though, thanks to all you nuts who used the grubbat dodge as a puntee. I > > will never again post "damaged and off pace" because its like an open > > season to pass/punt. The divebombing was terrible, even on the lapped > cars, > > the apparent blocking at the start of the race was just naughty, and the > > cars that were lapped down and racing for postion was just smelly.Several > > times it appeared to me the driver in front of me was breakchecking inthe > > middle of a turn which required me to slam on the brakes. > > I had a good run at the beginning and enjoyed the passing and > > manuvering. That was fun and it required very good driving skills and a > keen > > situational awareness of the racing enviroment. (pardon me while i patthe > > grub on the back). All of this gentlemanship apparently ended after the > > first caution. :( > > As usual, all is well as I am fixing the grubat dodge and getting > ready > > for the next race. The best way to fix all of these things mentionedabove

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> > is just to be faster, more consistant than the other guy and then I wont > > have to worry about anything......except for divebombing. > > > > grubby > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice little demolition derby in the pits after the race Grub. :-) > > bluestringer > >

"Don Dodge" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding news:[email hidden]... > The car ahead of you has no obligation whatever to go into a corner theway > you want them to - It's your responsibility not to hit them, plain and > simple, as Ed himself admitted. If Uwe, in this instance, didn't want to > race to get his lap or laps back, that's his decision and needn't be > punished with being taken out of the race. In addition, restarts are > always dangerous and one has to be extra careful. > The "problem" - the way I see it (biased ofcourse...) - is that he first *started* to race and then suddenly - stopped. Anyway - I'll take the blame. Once again - sorry, Don. -- ed_ > Don D > > > Uwe slowed down wayyyyyy early going into the corner. Heck, he was > > still on the straight when he slowed down, not even to the lights or > > the 3 marker. I don't think Ed was at fault there. I punted Jerry(#39) > > in the same corner when we tried to slow for Uwe. > > > > Kyle

That was a lot of fun. For the truth to be known, while we were banging around in the pits, the game ended before I could save a replay of the game. Otherwise, I would be posting some of the 'other' divers faults. :) Probally a good thing that we were clowning around. later grub "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:TIb9b.55885$Go4.35693@lakeread01...

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> Yes, that was a nice stress reliever :) > > Grub owed me a whack anyway :) > > Larry > > "bluestringer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:f0_8b.5671$[email hidden]... > > > > "grub" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Well, since I didn't save the replay either, I dont know who to > thank, > > > who to call to the carpet, or who to blame my mistakes on. I will say > this > > > though, thanks to all you nuts who used the grubbat dodge as a puntee.

I > > > will never again post "damaged and off pace" because its like an open > > > season to pass/punt. The divebombing was terrible, even on the lapped > > cars, > > > the apparent blocking at the start of the race was just naughty, andthe

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> > > cars that were lapped down and racing for postion was just smelly. > Several > > > times it appeared to me the driver in front of me was breakchecking in > the > > > middle of a turn which required me to slam on the brakes. > > > I had a good run at the beginning and enjoyed the passing and > > > manuvering. That was fun and it required very good driving skills and

a > > keen > > > situational awareness of the racing enviroment. (pardon me while i pat > the > > > grub on the back). All of this gentlemanship apparently ended afterthe > > > first caution. :( > > > As usual, all is well as I am fixing the grubat dodge and getting > > ready > > > for the next race. The best way to fix all of these things mentioned > above > > > is just to be faster, more consistant than the other guy and then Iwont

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> > > have to worry about anything......except for divebombing. > > > > > > grubby > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice little demolition derby in the pits after the race Grub. :-) > > > > bluestringer > > > > > >

"grub" said: > For the truth to be known, while we were banging around in the pits, the > game ended before I could save a replay of the game. Otherwise, I would be > posting some of the 'other' divers faults. > :) The server replay have been posted.... take a look at it. -- ed_

"grub" said: The server replay have been posted.... take a look at it. -- ed_

Wish I could, but dont have the bandwidth. I will take your word for it though. grub "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3f66280d$[email hidden]... > "grub" said: > > > For the truth to be known, while we were banging around in the pits, the > > game ended before I could save a replay of the game. Otherwise, I wouldbe

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> > posting some of the 'other' divers faults. > > :) > > The server replay have been posted.... take a look at it. > > -- > ed_ > >

"grub" wrote: > Wish I could, but dont have the bandwidth. I will take your word for it > though. I can "chop it up" for you..... any particulare parts you want to see? -- ed_

Ed, Don't bother. On second thought, take a picture of me crossing the start/finish line in reverse from the side view. I want to use it as a desktop background. Thanks grub "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3f6634a5$[email hidden]...

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> "grub" wrote: > > > Wish I could, but dont have the bandwidth. I will take your word for it > > though. > > I can "chop it up" for you..... any particulare parts you want to see? > > -- > ed_ > >

>Sorry Bos and Bama. OK Larry I was gonna really let ya have it over this one.....uhhhh wait...I wasn't at New Hampshire. Oh well..thanks anyway :) Dan (Bamadano)

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 09:32:59 GMT, Don Dodge wrote: > The car ahead of you has no obligation whatever to go into a corner the way > you want them to - It's your responsibility not to hit them, plain and > simple, as Ed himself admitted. If Uwe, in this instance, didn't want to > race to get his lap or laps back, that's his decision and needn't be > punished with being taken out of the race. In addition, restarts are > always dangerous and one has to be extra careful. As I already said I was trying to be extra careful because it was clear that I would be able to keep up the pace of the leading cars on the outside. Sorry if I slowed too early, but I didn't want to put on full brakes on cold tyres 8-( uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

"Uwe Sch�rkamp" said: > Sorry if I slowed too early, but I didn't want to put on full > brakes on cold tyres 8-( There's nothing wrong in being careful Uwe. In fact I wish we *all* were a bit more gentle on the restarts.... What really fooled me though, was the "mixed signals". I saw that you got a much better start than Don, so I did what any other racer would do - I followed. I had no intention to pass you though. I was expecting that you would - like me - brake early into T1 but, I just wasn't expecting it that early. Anyway.. let's all learn from this and move on. With some luck we'll avoid similare things in the future :) -- ed_

LOL! Same thing happened to me :) -Larry "grub" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> That was a lot of fun. > > For the truth to be known, while we were banging around in the pits, the > game ended before I could save a replay of the game. Otherwise, I would be > posting some of the 'other' divers faults. > :) > Probally a good thing that we were clowning around. > > later > > grub > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:TIb9b.55885$Go4.35693@lakeread01... > > Yes, that was a nice stress reliever :) > > > > Grub owed me a whack anyway :) > > > > Larry > > > > "bluestringer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:f0_8b.5671$[email hidden]... > > > > > > "grub" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Well, since I didn't save the replay either, I dont know who to > > thank, > > > > who to call to the carpet, or who to blame my mistakes on. I will

say > > this > > > > though, thanks to all you nuts who used the grubbat dodge as apuntee. > I > > > > will never again post "damaged and off pace" because its like anopen > > > > season to pass/punt. The divebombing was terrible, even on thelapped > > > cars, > > > > the apparent blocking at the start of the race was just naughty, and > the > > > > cars that were lapped down and racing for postion was just smelly. > > Several > > > > times it appeared to me the driver in front of me was breakcheckingin > > the > > > > middle of a turn which required me to slam on the brakes. > > > > I had a good run at the beginning and enjoyed the passing and > > > > manuvering. That was fun and it required very good driving skillsand > a > > > keen > > > > situational awareness of the racing enviroment. (pardon me while ipat > > the > > > > grub on the back). All of this gentlemanship apparently ended after > the > > > > first caution. :( > > > > As usual, all is well as I am fixing the grubat dodge andgetting

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> > > ready > > > > for the next race. The best way to fix all of these things mentioned > > above > > > > is just to be faster, more consistant than the other guy and then I > wont > > > > have to worry about anything......except for divebombing. > > > > > > > > grubby > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice little demolition derby in the pits after the race Grub. :-) > > > > > > bluestringer > > > > > > > > > > > >

Only if you chop up the track as well. Do Darlington while you're at it :) -Larry "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3f6634a5$[email hidden]...

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> "grub" wrote: > > > Wish I could, but dont have the bandwidth. I will take your word for it > > though. > > I can "chop it up" for you..... any particulare parts you want to see? > > -- > ed_ > >

Yeah, I meant Grub. Sorry :) -Larry "Bamadano" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > >Sorry Bos and Bama. > > OK Larry I was gonna really let ya have it over this one.....uhhhhwait...I > wasn't at New Hampshire. Oh well..thanks anyway :) > Dan (Bamadano)