RASCAR: WTG Joon!

Great win JoonJoonLi! The race in general went well. Only one bonehead move that took out quite a few drivers but other than that a blown engine and one other yellow it was a great race. We finally got in a green flag stop and had some tremendous side by side action. Overall great improvement for RASCAR. Mitch

"Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vFodb.10006$3%[email hidden]... > Great win JoonJoonLi! > > The race in general went well. Only one bonehead move that took out quitea > few drivers but other than that a blown engine and one other yellow it wasa > great race. We finally got in a green flag stop and had some tremendous > side by side action. > > Overall great improvement for RASCAR. Sad when a great improvement is a third of the field retiring 10 laps in. Kyle

"Kyle Roberts" wrote... > <snip> > Sad when a great improvement is a third of the field > retiring 10 laps in. If something happens at the front in a Dega race, it's always gonna be big. I'm not sure the people in the top 10 today realised the extent of the responsibility resting on their shoulders, judging from the line swapping going on. Jan. =---

"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:f5pdb.44610$[email hidden]... > "Kyle Roberts" wrote... > > <snip> > > Sad when a great improvement is a third of the field > > retiring 10 laps in. > > If something happens at the front in a Dega race, it's always gonna bebig. > I'm not sure the people in the top 10 today realised the extent of the > responsibility resting on their shoulders, judging from the line swapping > going on. I know Jan, I'm still just sore because I was looking forward to the Dega race. I would have made it through the melee if the instigator of said melee had left his foot on the brake instead of staying in the gas and clipping you. Kyle

I was riding along in about 10th place until whatever happened. I got stuck in a few 3 widers, we managed to get through that. I thought the first 10 laps or so were done quite nicely, everybody gave and took very well. I was wondering if I could take it for 60 more laps. I thought it was great fun. I did notice a lot of line dancing. Moving from one lane to the bottom or top. I haven't seen the accident, but I think it could've happened to anyone of us. We were running together quite a bit. I had to feather the throttle quite often, just to keep from nudging the car in front of me. I quit a few laps after the 1st caution, I had rear end damage and was way off the pace. It's no fun cruising Tally all by yerself. Congratulations to Joon!! -- Richard "ZZ" Busch Member: Screamers Racing League OAO CORS RASCAR MARA TransAm GPL Rank + 17.415 MoGPL Rank + 318.586 N2002 Rank + 7.695 TransAm Rank ?? ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =---

"Kyle Roberts" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Sipdb.21394$[email hidden]... <snip> > I know Jan, I'm still just sore because I was looking forward to the Dega > race. I would have made it through the melee if the instigator of saidmelee > had left his foot on the brake instead of staying in the gas and clipping > you. > Kyle That would of course be me and for that last bit I am truly sorry. My wheel developed an intermittant spike on the left paddle (brake) which I noticed during practice this week. It only occured during the odd left turn but at Dega had the effect of causing me to slow suddenly and lose the draft. To counter this ( and until my new wheel arrives) I switched assignments beteeen gas and brake paddles. The spike would not have much effect on the gas at all. I put in hours of practice this week but in the heat of the accident I instinctively hit the old brake paddle ( now the gas paddle ) with disasterous results. Totally my mistake and again I am really sorry. Elrikk ( Mike Kay ) PS And while I won't argue the case here I believe the correct term should be "co-instigator" but as Ed said in chat I could have lifted.

been giggling about that pit stop move me and larry pulled all afternoon. lol. i must thank fate for my win, for it truly was luck. i prolly shoulda been a lap down. "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vFodb.10006$3%[email hidden]... > Great win JoonJoonLi! > > The race in general went well. Only one bonehead move that took out quitea > few drivers but other than that a blown engine and one other yellow it wasa

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> great race. We finally got in a green flag stop and had some tremendous > side by side action. > > Overall great improvement for RASCAR. > > Mitch > >

"elrikk" said: > That would of course be me and for that last bit I am truly sorry. Does this mean that your not setting of the accident in the first place? Having looked at the replay from your view I'm really puzzled on how you thought a pass like that could succeed? What also bugs me (and others I'm sure) is that you never had the decency (sp?) to say you were sorry. Now that hurt Mike. -- ed_ http://rascar.racesimcentral.com ----------------------------------------------- $10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC

"jon" said: > been giggling about that pit stop move me and larry pulled all afternoon. > lol. > i must thank fate for my win, for it truly was luck. i prolly shoulda beena > lap down. You guys were very lucky... Why on earth the two of you didnt pit is beyond me... with so few guys left in the race after the accident you had the statistics against you :-) Damn lucky for you that Tim's engine blew up and created that second yellow... Only 2 cautions is a new record for us I think.. -- ed_ http://rascar.racesimcentral.com ----------------------------------------------- $10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC

"Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > You guys were very lucky... Why on earth the two of you didnt pit isbeyond > me... with so few guys left in the race after the accident you had the > statistics against you :-) Damn lucky for you that Tim's engine blew upand > created that second yellow... Thats the great thing of having green flag pitstops. Its not who is the fastest, but who has the best strategy, or yellow flag luck. Not that I'm saying turn off yellows, but if we can get more green flag racing, we'll see more of this sort of thing happening. Steve

I have raced over 100,000 laps at Talladega (starting with N1), and this is the first race I've ever run where the outside line was a threat. This was the most fun I've had in a race in a long time. You could RACE instead of just being in a damned parade for dozens of laps. It was as fun as the real race on TV today (which was awesome). I only have one concern about our race, and it was someone doing something that was agreed would not be a part of our racing. It happened anyway, lap after lap. It was extremely frustrating, and luckily I am a clean racer and kept my cool. Not everyone would have been so patient. The appropriate people know what I'm talking about, and I leave it up to them to decide whether it needs to be addressed or not. Other than that, nice win Joon! -Larry "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vFodb.10006$3%[email hidden]... > Great win JoonJoonLi! > > The race in general went well. Only one bonehead move that took out quitea > few drivers but other than that a blown engine and one other yellow it wasa

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> great race. We finally got in a green flag stop and had some tremendous > side by side action. > > Overall great improvement for RASCAR. > > Mitch > >

I simply never expected such long green runs, and since we had only used 4 gallons of gas, pitting just didn't make any sense. Plus I've learned to take no chances that would put me in the back of the pack. Oh, well. It worked out :) -Larry "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QWqdb.587$[email hidden]... > been giggling about that pit stop move me and larry pulled all afternoon. > lol. > i must thank fate for my win, for it truly was luck. i prolly shoulda beena

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> lap down. > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:vFodb.10006$3%[email hidden]... > > Great win JoonJoonLi! > > > > The race in general went well. Only one bonehead move that took out

quite > a > > few drivers but other than that a blown engine and one other yellow itwas

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> a > > great race. We finally got in a green flag stop and had some tremendous > > side by side action. > > > > Overall great improvement for RASCAR. > > > > Mitch > > > > > >

My stop strategy was based on previous races at this track. I saw no need to pit because we had only used 4 gallons of gas, and surely another yellow would come quickly anyway. We just had a better race than expected :) -Larry "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3f76cef9$0$6523$[email hidden]...

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> > "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > You guys were very lucky... Why on earth the two of you didnt pit is > beyond > > me... with so few guys left in the race after the accident you had the > > statistics against you :-) Damn lucky for you that Tim's engine blew up > and > > created that second yellow... > > Thats the great thing of having green flag pitstops. Its not who is the > fastest, but who has the best strategy, or yellow flag luck. Not that I'm > saying turn off yellows, but if we can get more green flag racing, we'll

see > more of this sort of thing happening. > > Steve > >

"Larry" said: > I have raced over 100,000 laps at Talladega (starting with N1), and thisis > the first race I've ever run where the outside line was a threat. > > This was the most fun I've had in a race in a long time. You could RACE > instead of just being in a damned parade for dozens of laps. The more "racing" you do - the higher the risk of an accident grows. The first half of a superspeedway is just a "fight for survival" rather the a race. In fact I'd say it's rather pointless to race for posistions because the guy behind will always be faster than you making the pass pointless. The reason the outside line worked so damn good was because Mitch and Ginger were communicating with eachother and worked together rather than race for posistion. One of the great benefits of using 'Teamspeak' -- ed_

Ed, We have fundamental differences as to what it means to be a Race Car Driver, and what drives a Race Car Driver to compete. But that's ok :) I'm not out to change you, as long as you are not out to change me. As long as that's understood, we'll get along just fine. -Larry "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > "Larry" said: > > I have raced over 100,000 laps at Talladega (starting with N1), and this > is > > the first race I've ever run where the outside line was a threat. > > > > This was the most fun I've had in a race in a long time. You could RACE > > instead of just being in a damned parade for dozens of laps. > > The more "racing" you do - the higher the risk of an accident grows. > > The first half of a superspeedway is just a "fight for survival" rather

the > a race. In fact I'd say it's rather pointless to race for posistionsbecause > the guy behind will always be faster than you making the pass pointless. > > The reason the outside line worked so damn good was because Mitch andGinger

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> were communicating with eachother and worked together rather than race for > posistion. One of the great benefits of using 'Teamspeak' > > -- > ed_ > >

"Larry" said: > Ed, > > We have fundamental differences as to what it means to be a Race CarDriver, > and what drives a Race Car Driver to compete. > Yes we do.. I think like a race-driver (to finish first - first you got to finish) while you think like a "simmer" :-D <G!> -- ed_

Hummmm Naw, dont think I will. grub "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3f7c6d7c$[email hidden]...

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> "Larry" said: > > Ed, > > > > We have fundamental differences as to what it means to be a Race Car > Driver, > > and what drives a Race Car Driver to compete. > > > > Yes we do.. I think like a race-driver (to finish first - first you got

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> finish) while you think like a "simmer" :-D > <G!> > > -- > ed_ > >

"Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > "Larry" said: > > I have raced over 100,000 laps at Talladega (starting with N1), and this > is > > the first race I've ever run where the outside line was a threat. > > > > This was the most fun I've had in a race in a long time. You could RACE > > instead of just being in a damned parade for dozens of laps. > > The more "racing" you do - the higher the risk of an accident grows. > > The first half of a superspeedway is just a "fight for survival" rather

the > a race. In fact I'd say it's rather pointless to race for posistionsbecause > the guy behind will always be faster than you making the pass pointless. > > The reason the outside line worked so damn good was because Mitch andGinger > were communicating with eachother and worked together rather than race for > posistion. One of the great benefits of using 'Teamspeak' The outside line was working because of the changes in the patch. It was working before the big one and Mitch and Ginger were running the low line at the time. I agree that there was too much passing early in the race. The only pass I tried to make was to get by Dave on lap 2 because he was blinking in and out and I didn't want to be stuck right behind him and have to deal with that for a lot of laps. I then stayed on the low line until Bamadano got a run and hung me out to dry and I got stuck in the high line. There were people squeezing into some very small holes to get back down low. I just stayed up there and road it out until the big one. Kyle

I'll just let that go. Not worth it. -Larry "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3f7c6d7c$[email hidden]...

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> "Larry" said: > > Ed, > > > > We have fundamental differences as to what it means to be a Race Car > Driver, > > and what drives a Race Car Driver to compete. > > > > Yes we do.. I think like a race-driver (to finish first - first you got

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> finish) while you think like a "simmer" :-D > <G!> > > -- > ed_ > >

Id have to disagree Kyle, the high line has worked the same since N4. If you can EVER get 3 guys to stay in line up top and build momentum its faster. Problem is no one ever sticks it out up top and dives back inside hanging out the high line. Perfect example was when I was pushing Larry to the front on the high lane, as soon as he cleared the leader he dove inside hanging me out (not picking at all Larry I might have done similar). The next time I dove inside first :) Bottom line is the high groove is faster exiting the turn but you cannot do it yourself. Mitch "Kyle Roberts" > > The outside line was working because of the changes in the patch. It was > working before the big one and Mitch and Ginger were running the low lineat > the time. I agree that there was too much passing early in the race. The > only pass I tried to make was to get by Dave on lap 2 because he was > blinking in and out and I didn't want to be stuck right behind him andhave > to deal with that for a lot of laps. I then stayed on the low line until > Bamadano got a run and hung me out to dry and I got stuck in the highline. > There were people squeezing into some very small holes to get back downlow. > I just stayed up there and road it out until the big one. > > Kyle > >

Oops, sorry :) Didn't mean to do that :) -Larry "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Fxgfb.187$%[email hidden]... > Id have to disagree Kyle, the high line has worked the same since N4. If > you can EVER get 3 guys to stay in line up top and build momentum its > faster. Problem is no one ever sticks it out up top and dives back inside > hanging out the high line. Perfect example was when I was pushing Larryto > the front on the high lane, as soon as he cleared the leader he doveinside

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> hanging me out (not picking at all Larry I might have done similar). The > next time I dove inside first :) Bottom line is the high groove is faster > exiting the turn but you cannot do it yourself. > > Mitch > > "Kyle Roberts" > > > The outside line was working because of the changes in the patch. It was > > working before the big one and Mitch and Ginger were running the low

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> at > > the time. I agree that there was too much passing early in the race. The > > only pass I tried to make was to get by Dave on lap 2 because he was > > blinking in and out and I didn't want to be stuck right behind him and > have > > to deal with that for a lot of laps. I then stayed on the low line until > > Bamadano got a run and hung me out to dry and I got stuck in the high > line. > > There were people squeezing into some very small holes to get back down > low. > > I just stayed up there and road it out until the big one. > > > > Kyle > > > > > >