Online Qual Speeds At Tally

Are the online speeds slower or something. You speak as though 198-200 is running too fast. I readily got 202 in N2 at tally with no drafting. I haven't tried Tally on N3 yet, but I watched a reply of the designers racing in multi, and they hit 200-201.. I confused?? Shannon T > Ok....what's the deal with these 198-200mph qual speeds at Tally? > Restrictor plates coming off en-mass? > If so....let's all play by the same rules. Would someone who knows how to alter > the track.ini files (if that's correct) at Tally ......and who has a sense of > fair play......please post how to do this below....so we can "equalize" the

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> online N3 fields at Tally a little bit? > It would be appreciated. > TP > P.S. My N2 Talladega setup doesn't even reach a speed in excess of 189mph > anywhere on the track...even top speed entering T3. What is up with that?

That > car was good for 195-196 mph solo....and 198mph drafting.....not awesome I > know...but competitive at least. > -- > Tom Pabst

Ok....what's the deal with these 198-200mph qual speeds at Tally? Restrictor plates coming off en-mass? If so....let's all play by the same rules. Would someone who knows how to alter the track.ini files (if that's correct) at Tally ......and who has a sense of fair play......please post how to do this below....so we can "equalize" the online N3 fields at Tally a little bit? It would be appreciated. TP P.S. My N2 Talladega setup doesn't even reach a speed in excess of 189mph anywhere on the track...even top speed entering T3. What is up with that? That car was good for 195-196 mph solo....and 198mph drafting.....not awesome I know...but competitive at least. -- Tom Pabst

Shannon... I'm not talking about "top speed"....I'm talking about Avg lap speed....... I never saw avg lap speed on TEN in the 198mph-200mph range for qualifying (unless of course I was using the now famous "Huggins Cheat"....lol......).............and rarely during racing...even in the draft (unless air temps were lowered to 40 degrees). I didn't do all the much racing at Tally...except in leagues.....but I don't think I'm to far off on this? TP

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> Are the online speeds slower or something. You speak as though 198-200 is > running too fast. I readily got 202 in N2 at tally with no drafting. I > haven't tried Tally on N3 yet, but I watched a reply of the designers racing > in multi, and they hit 200-201.. > I confused?? > Shannon T > > Ok....what's the deal with these 198-200mph qual speeds at Tally? > > Restrictor plates coming off en-mass? > > If so....let's all play by the same rules. Would someone who knows how to > alter > > the track.ini files (if that's correct) at Tally ......and who has a sense > of > > fair play......please post how to do this below....so we can "equalize" > the > > online N3 fields at Tally a little bit? > > It would be appreciated. > > TP > > P.S. My N2 Talladega setup doesn't even reach a speed in excess of 189mph > > anywhere on the track...even top speed entering T3. What is up with that? > That > > car was good for 195-196 mph solo....and 198mph drafting.....not awesome I > > know...but competitive at least. > > -- > > Tom Pabst

Tom, From my understanding it is an "even" playing field due to the fact that the host dictates whether or not the restrictor plate is on or off. So whoever joins that host will be racing under the same circumstances. Although, not uniform across the board. Scott PA-Scott -- Scott B. Husted ICQ# 4395450

> Ok....what's the deal with these 198-200mph qual speeds at Tally? > Restrictor plates coming off en-mass? I thought the same thing Tom but by just tweaking the Qual setup a bit last night I was able to hit 197's. Odd thing is if one takes a clock and measures the speed/time at that speed factor it doesn't compute to those averages. Something screwed up there I think. I was hitting 207 down the backstretch last night in a draft at 8100 rpm, 4th was 3:20. My record Talledega online lap is 401.189 mph! I didn't notice any warping but it must have occurred. -- Rich Koehler rgkoehler(at)lucent(dot)com killerk(at)home(dot)com

When online racing, I just use the default Ace and Qual setups, and I'm consistently hitting 197-199, and even one 200 laps without draft, in qualifying.....once into draft, i think I even had a 201 once. I'm using N3 straight out of the box, not edits or anything. Corey Leigh

You can run 198-200 qual laps just by using the stock Qual setup that came with N3. Just scrub your tires like hell on the first lap,and stay low!

Im under the impression that you just have to find a fast setup. Hitting 200 MPH average isnt uncommon in N3 as ive done solo laps in the 199 range in only one day of driving N3. In the race i had last night against AI at Tally i ran a 201.xxx with the draft. Its just that the track is faster in N3 then N2/99. Chris "Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass."--Mark Twain

Default QUAL setup, no changes at all, I'm already at 198 on almost every lap I run with it, and I've had a 202.xxx mph lap in the draft against the AI cars. Talladega is just plain FAST on N3! Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited

Gentlemen, this is all great and everything, lots of speed; ugh ugh urrrrrr ugh!!! Now lets look at an actual (real-time) qualifying session. Top speeds on a good day 195mph, John Andretti in fall of '96 I believe. I think we need someone to fix the track and make it more accurate by slowing the track down. Hence the name of the game, racing SIMULATION. I know the track gurus out there can fix this to make it RIGHT. Sounds like the right move to me. Y'all race some for me, I have another two months before I can play N3, once I get back in the states. Tom

Tom, I can easily qualify in the 199's using the stock qualifying setup and running the same line I did in N2. No gimmicks, just faster speeds in N3. -- Don Burnette Dburn on Ten http://members.home.net/d.burnette/Sportsman%204.htm > Ok....what's the deal with these 198-200mph qual speeds at Tally? > Restrictor plates coming off en-mass? > If so....let's all play by the same rules. Would someone who knows how to alter > the track.ini files (if that's correct) at Tally ......and who has a sense of > fair play......please post how to do this below....so we can "equalize" the > online N3 fields at Tally a little bit? > It would be appreciated. > TP > P.S. My N2 Talladega setup doesn't even reach a speed in excess of 189mph > anywhere on the track...even top speed entering T3. What is up with that? That > car was good for 195-196 mph solo....and 198mph drafting.....not awesome I > know...but competitive at least. > -- > Tom Pabst

Actually, I'm seeing 198 qual times with the plate on! Tally is much, much different in N3 than N2/NROS. For one, none of my very good setups are worth a shit. -larry > Ok....what's the deal with these 198-200mph qual speeds at Tally? > Restrictor plates coming off en-mass? > If so....let's all play by the same rules. Would someone who knows how to alter > the track.ini files (if that's correct) at Tally ......and who has a sense of > fair play......please post how to do this below....so we can "equalize" the

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> online N3 fields at Tally a little bit? > It would be appreciated. > TP > P.S. My N2 Talladega setup doesn't even reach a speed in excess of 189mph > anywhere on the track...even top speed entering T3. What is up with that?

That > car was good for 195-196 mph solo....and 198mph drafting.....not awesome I > know...but competitive at least. > -- > Tom Pabst

During Qual? No way. None. Not possible. Not with the plate on. -Larry > Are the online speeds slower or something. You speak as though 198-200 is > running too fast. I readily got 202 in N2 at tally with no drafting. I > haven't tried Tally on N3 yet, but I watched a reply of the designers racing

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> in multi, and they hit 200-201.. > I confused?? > Shannon T > > Ok....what's the deal with these 198-200mph qual speeds at Tally? > > Restrictor plates coming off en-mass? > > If so....let's all play by the same rules. Would someone who knows how

to > alter > > the track.ini files (if that's correct) at Tally ......and who has a sense

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> of > > fair play......please post how to do this below....so we can "equalize" > the > > online N3 fields at Tally a little bit? > > It would be appreciated. > > TP > > P.S. My N2 Talladega setup doesn't even reach a speed in excess of

189mph > > anywhere on the track...even top speed entering T3. What is up with that? > That > > car was good for 195-196 mph solo....and 198mph drafting.....not awesome I > > know...but competitive at least. > > -- > > Tom Pabst

>Are the online speeds slower or something. You speak as though 198-200 is >running too fast. I readily got 202 in N2 at tally with no drafting. I >haven't tried Tally on N3 yet, but I watched a reply of the designers racing >in multi, and they hit 200-201.. >I confused?? >Shannon T Ran my 1st Nascar3 online race last night at Atlanta. The nascar lap record was listed as 196.xxx,but I ran a fast lap of 296.xxx. Others after the race reported the samething. What gives with these unrealistic speeds. Joel Willstein

> Ran my 1st Nascar3 online race last night at Atlanta. The nascar lap record > was listed as 196.xxx,but I ran a fast lap of 296.xxx. Others after the race > reported the samething. What gives with these unrealistic speeds. > Joel Willstein Is it possible that the version you have and the online version are different? I know if the 2 tracks are differing versions the lap times will be way off. -- Richard "ZZ" Busch Official member Sim Racing Mag Honda Challenge Screamers Racing League ---------------- Busch Motorsports Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward ----------------- Busch Carpentry Plans?, Oh, you mean that napkin sketch?

200.5 qual with plate on is what is needed. Bill / Amish on Team Brickyard > Actually, I'm seeing 198 qual times with the plate on! > Tally is much, much different in N3 than N2/NROS. For one, none of my very

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> good setups are worth a shit. > -larry > > Ok....what's the deal with these 198-200mph qual speeds at Tally? > > Restrictor plates coming off en-mass? > > If so....let's all play by the same rules. Would someone who knows how

to > alter > > the track.ini files (if that's correct) at Tally ......and who has a sense

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> of > > fair play......please post how to do this below....so we can "equalize" > the > > online N3 fields at Tally a little bit? > > It would be appreciated. > > TP > > P.S. My N2 Talladega setup doesn't even reach a speed in excess of

189mph > > anywhere on the track...even top speed entering T3. What is up with that? > That > > car was good for 195-196 mph solo....and 198mph drafting.....not awesome I > > know...but competitive at least. > > -- > > Tom Pabst

There's some bug that makes it so that the very first lap is ungodly fast when online racing... Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited

I can qual at 200 or 201 mph offline (in 70 deg. weather too). Racer X Veteran Sim Racer Victory Lane- http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/1423/

LOL, my "track record" at Dega is 1013.54 mph or something in that general category. Oh, and for the person who said that 200's are possible in qualifying, I've qualified twice wtih a 200 using the DEFAULT qual setup, and out of the box settings (online though, depends what the host has changed.) Plate was ON. The track's just that much faster. Tonight, I had a 200.124 or something like that and I qualified 4th out of 30 or so. So, it works. Corey Leigh On WON.net as Pepperman

Online, or Off? I'm assuming on. I just did a personal best 199.118 lap at 'Dega, 70 degs, no wind, default QUAL setup. I had a slower time before, and the difference in lap times was the line I drove in this one gave me better entries into the corners (I.E., minimizing tire squeal). I also tried to stay at or just a tick above the line at the bottom all the way around the corner. Looks like I'll need to do more practicing, eh? :) >200.5 qual with plate on is what is needed. >Bill / Amish on Team Brickyard

I avoid this when running alone. With my setup, it scrubs off too much speed. Racer X Veteran Sim Racer Victory Lane- http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/1423/