** NASCAR 3 Gone Gold **

Rich LaPorte (from my favourite 'new releases' site, Gone Gold, www.gonegold.com) has just posted the news that NASCAR 3 has been confirmed by Papyrus as having gone gold (sent off for duplication). "I have just received word directly from Papyrus that Nascar 3 is indeed Gold and off to duplication. Get ready to start your engines!" Well, Fall is closer than expected ;) -- Kenneth Verburg Webmaster/Editor-in-chief High Gear http://www.simracingnews.com

When I said the N3 BETA felt complete I guess I was not far off the mark <VBG> ;) Scott PA-Scott -- Scott B. Husted ICQ# 4395450

Ah, now when will we get a demo? Racer X Veteran Sim Racer Victory Lane- http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/1423/

And how long will we have to wait in the UK to see it? I been waiting a long time for this one Revvin

There's been a great deal of confusion here, IS this the NASCAR3 with the GPL type engine? Alan

No.

No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No That GPL type engine will NOT be in N3.....for about the 10,000th time....NO. Get it now??? I hate to be s harsh, but the same question keeps being asked over and over and over again and that info was released last month...way last month. Get over it.

Lighten up DW :) Key_Bored

>No. Hey Randy. Any idea when we might see a Nascar 3 demo? Joe McGinn ========================================== Staff Writer for the Sports *** Network [link lost in import: /***.com/] ==========================================

On Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:40:02 +0200, WOOOHOOO!!!! -- * rrevved at mindspring dot com * http://www.cabal.net * http://www.sputum.com

Hmm, they've made it pretty clear the past few months that it is not . -- Don Burnette Dburn on Ten http://members.home.net/d.burnette/Sportsman%204.htm

but are you SURE? i heard at e3.... :)

Thank you, geez. THERE IS NO N3 WITH GPL ENGINE. THERE NEVER WILL BE (not called N3, lol)! GET OVER IT. I don't even pay all that much attention to it anymore (don't worry until it hits shelves), and I still know that, sheesh, lol. Anywho, I'm done ranting now. Like DW, sorry if I sound harsh. Corey Leigh This was a blatant post for no particular reason. Yes, it did take up bandwidth. No tape dispensers were harmed in the writing of this message.

maybe he just came form his hollidays :) or he was in the queue for the SW Phantom Menace ... :) McKafre

They did make it with the GPL engine? Cool I can't wait. The GPL engine will be so much better than a tweeked N2 engine. The Mocker

<snore> What got released? Another game using an ancient driving model? Oh can we jump for joy now?!

Everyone please forgive Chris. He is a disgruntled open wheel fan who still gets overly e***d when they show screenshots of Pole Position <VBG> ;) Scott PA-Scott -- Scott B. Husted ICQ# 4395450

Hey, Chris is not alone!!!

Yea, what's wrong with Pole Position?!?! <G>

The GPL engined NASCAR4 is sitting on the back shelf right now. They claim that the average computer can't run it, so we're stuck with another NASCAR2 remake. Oh well, at least we have body roll now! Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited

POLE POSITION ROCKED. :) Man, I remember pouring many of quarter into that game when I was a kid. :) On another note, bring on the track convertors, bring on the Pits Touring Car patch and then perhaps N3 will be worth something for online play. :)

Maybe both... Or probably just getting back to his school account that he didn't have at home over the summer when the announcement and the much discussed discussion [ ??? :-) ] over it NOT being in N3.

You might be suprised. -- Don Burnette Dburn on Ten http://members.home.net/d.burnette/Sportsman%204.htm

With that attitude, I don't know if I'd wanna race him in MP at all, lol. Ripp

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> You might be suprised. > -- > Don Burnette > Dburn on Ten > http://members.home.net/d.burnette/Sportsman%204.htm > > <snore> What got released? Another game using an ancient driving

model? > > Oh can we jump for joy now?!

Why because I'm not thrilled at a developer having pumped out yet another title based on a 5+ year old driving model? Geesh. Huge difference in dissatisfaction with titles being produced, and actually being able to race online. Not that I've ever seen you on VROC/GSB either. :)

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> With that attitude, I don't know if I'd wanna race him in MP at all, lol. > Ripp > > You might be suprised. > > -- > > Don Burnette > > Dburn on Ten > > http://members.home.net/d.burnette/Sportsman%204.htm > > > <snore> What got released? Another game using an ancient driving > model? > > > Oh can we jump for joy now?!

You might be too.

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> You might be suprised. > -- > Don Burnette > Dburn on Ten > http://members.home.net/d.burnette/Sportsman%204.htm > > <snore> What got released? Another game using an ancient driving

model? > > Oh can we jump for joy now?!

I too was not thrilled when I heard that GPL's engine was not going to be used with Nascar3. That being said, rather than harboring an eternally negative attitude towards the developer for such hogwash, I opened my ears to what they were saying and realized that either they produced something this year that could be run by the masses or they wait until next year before sending anything new to the market. The former prevents the fiscal suicide that the latter would bring. So what do we want? Papyrus to produce another title that is only enjoyed by VERY few who have the systems to handle it(sales figures on GPL wee abysmal compared to any other title produced by Papyrus while the cost of GPL was more than any other title also) and go under. Or take the middle ground with them and drive what is going to be a damn good sim in its own right that many more can enjoy? And off the record, I had a chance to try out Nascar3 with the GPL physics and there was no way in hell that you were going to get more than 10 cars on the track at one time without relegating your FPS to 4 or 5. Just too much overhead for today's system to handle. Plain and simple, it would not have worked. And since your tone demonstrates a possibility that you will not even buy N3, I'll be sure to provide you with my thoughts on the title once it's released so that maybe by chance you will venture online and enjoy yourself. And by the way, I too used to race GPL during its first 6 to 8 months of life and won about 75% of the races I entered. Of course now, I probably couldn't hold a candle to most drivers of the greatest racing game ever created, but then again, Nascar racing is my main sim of choice. And before these conversations you and I have enjoyed cross the line of decency into chaos, let me state that it is not my intent to be an *** however feasible it may seem<g>. Case in point, the acceptance of constructive criticism regarding HTML formatting of newsgroup messages. The unwritten rule was unbeknownst to me and I give my thanks for pointing it out no matter how the pointing was worded<g>. Ripp

Rhawn, Don't you know by now that reason never works with unreasonable people? He only knows what he WANTS and the facts of life, business and reality are not going to dissuade him in his rancor toward Papyrus. I only know that Papyrus Design Group has given me more entertainment per buck than anyone else on the face of the planet and I WILL buy every one of their offerings if for no other reason than to let them know that I want them to stay in business. If I can get a GPL out of a dozen NR99's then it's damned well worth it to me.

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> I too was not thrilled when I heard that GPL's engine was not going to be > used with Nascar3. That being said, rather than harboring an eternally > negative attitude towards the developer for such hogwash, I opened my ears > to what they were saying and realized that either they produced something > this year that could be run by the masses or they wait until next year > before sending anything new to the market. The former prevents the fiscal > suicide that the latter would bring. So what do we want? Papyrus to > produce another title that is only enjoyed by VERY few who have the systems > to handle it(sales figures on GPL wee abysmal compared to any other title > produced by Papyrus while the cost of GPL was more than any other title > also) and go under. Or take the middle ground with them and drive what is > going to be a damn good sim in its own right that many more can enjoy? And > off the record, I had a chance to try out Nascar3 with the GPL physics and > there was no way in hell that you were going to get more than 10 cars on the > track at one time without relegating your FPS to 4 or 5. Just too much > overhead for today's system to handle. Plain and simple, it would not have > worked. > And since your tone demonstrates a possibility that you will not even buy > N3, I'll be sure to provide you with my thoughts on the title once it's > released so that maybe by chance you will venture online and enjoy yourself. > And by the way, I too used to race GPL during its first 6 to 8 months of > life and won about 75% of the races I entered. Of course now, I probably > couldn't hold a candle to most drivers of the greatest racing game ever > created, but then again, Nascar racing is my main sim of choice. > And before these conversations you and I have enjoyed cross the line of > decency into chaos, let me state that it is not my intent to be an *** > however feasible it may seem<g>. Case in point, the acceptance of > constructive criticism regarding HTML formatting of newsgroup messages. The > unwritten rule was unbeknownst to me and I give my thanks for pointing it > out no matter how the pointing was worded<g>. > Ripp > > Why because I'm not thrilled at a developer having pumped out yet another > > title based on a 5+ year old driving model? Geesh. Huge difference in > > dissatisfaction with titles being produced, and actually being able to > race > > online. > > Not that I've ever seen you on VROC/GSB either. :)

-- Bob Curtin Worcester Area Strategy & Tactics Exchange http://www.tiac.net/users/ten10ths/ "If God had intended men to join the Army he would have given us green, baggy skin"

Amen BC, Amen! > Rhawn, > Don't you know by now that reason never works with unreasonable people? He only > knows what he WANTS and the facts of life, business and reality are not going to > dissuade him in his rancor toward Papyrus. > I only know that Papyrus Design Group has given me more entertainment per buck > than anyone else on the face of the planet and I WILL buy every one of their > offerings if for no other reason than to let them know that I want them to stay > in business. If I can get a GPL out of a dozen NR99's then it's damned well > worth it to me. > > I too was not thrilled when I heard that GPL's engine was not going to be > > used with Nascar3. That being said, rather than harboring an eternally > > negative attitude towards the developer for such hogwash, I opened my ears > > to what they were saying and realized that either they produced something > > this year that could be run by the masses or they wait until next year > > before sending anything new to the market. The former prevents the fiscal > > suicide that the latter would bring. So what do we want? Papyrus to > > produce another title that is only enjoyed by VERY few who have the systems > > to handle it(sales figures on GPL wee abysmal compared to any other title > > produced by Papyrus while the cost of GPL was more than any other title > > also) and go under. Or take the middle ground with them and drive what is > > going to be a damn good sim in its own right that many more can enjoy? And > > off the record, I had a chance to try out Nascar3 with the GPL physics and > > there was no way in hell that you were going to get more than 10 cars on the > > track at one time without relegating your FPS to 4 or 5. Just too much > > overhead for today's system to handle. Plain and simple, it would not have > > worked. > > And since your tone demonstrates a possibility that you will not even buy > > N3, I'll be sure to provide you with my thoughts on the title once it's > > released so that maybe by chance you will venture online and enjoy yourself. > > And by the way, I too used to race GPL during its first 6 to 8 months of > > life and won about 75% of the races I entered. Of course now, I probably > > couldn't hold a candle to most drivers of the greatest racing game ever > > created, but then again, Nascar racing is my main sim of choice. > > And before these conversations you and I have enjoyed cross the line of > > decency into chaos, let me state that it is not my intent to be an *** > > however feasible it may seem<g>. Case in point, the acceptance of > > constructive criticism regarding HTML formatting of newsgroup messages. The > > unwritten rule was unbeknownst to me and I give my thanks for pointing it

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> > out no matter how the pointing was worded<g>. > > Ripp > > > Why because I'm not thrilled at a developer having pumped out yet

another > > > title based on a 5+ year old driving model? Geesh. Huge difference in

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> > > dissatisfaction with titles being produced, and actually being able to > > race > > > online. > > > Not that I've ever seen you on VROC/GSB either. :) > -- > Bob Curtin > Worcester Area Strategy & Tactics Exchange > http://www.tiac.net/users/ten10ths/ > "If God had intended men to join the Army he would have given us green,

baggy > skin"

Ummm, I don't think so :) -- Don Burnette Dburn on Ten http://members.home.net/d.burnette/Sportsman%204.htm > You might be too. > > You might be suprised. > > -- > > Don Burnette > > Dburn on Ten > > http://members.home.net/d.burnette/Sportsman%204.htm > > > <snore> What got released? Another game using an ancient driving > model? > > > Oh can we jump for joy now?!

>>NASCAR 3 has been confirmed >>by Papyrus as having gone gold >Ah, now when will we get a demo? Demo?? Are you joking? try NR1999 :-) As long as it had FF and 3dfx support and modem to modem play I am happy :-) -- Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes. cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com